george
2008-04-14 17:25:44 UTC
Katie we love you for all the wonderful lesson's you've given us about
ourslves. I'm not the only one that has been stregthened in my beliefs
about how ACIM works. Zeh has seen it and posted and a friend Karen on
the other website has posted also. I've been feeling MUCH stronger in
my faith because of the back and forth you and I have had. It's as if
God is showning me, yes ACIM does work!
I wanted to share her rather long post because you helped to heal
Karen also and strengthened her faith. You have been one of the
strongest examples about how ACIM works in my life and I want to thank
you again for helping me and others. Here is a copy of Karen's post.
George and All,
When I started reading the Katie post on this other web site, it
triggered fear and anger in me. At first, I was angry that you would
even share this posting. At the end of the post, your response,
however, helped heal some of this. I was glad I read to the end.
Let me explain some of my background and why this probably triggered
fear in me.
** A long posting **
Before I came to A Course in Miracles, my sister had been in a
Religious Cult. She had been in it for 7 years and my family spent
about 1 year studying the group and then, with help from a minister,
exit counseler and ex-member, we had an intervention. I won't go
into all the details of the cult or the intervention. In the end, we
were able to reach her and she decided to leave. This was about 16
years ago (I'm happy to say, my sister worked through this over the
years and now has a healthy spiritual life/experience with a church
and is married with 2 kids and a good marrage).
Anyway, after the cult experience, this is how it impacted me.
Before we realized that the church was a cult, I was interested in
checking it out. I attended bible studies. During the bible
studies, I would feel like I was having spiritual encounters because
the words seemed to be talking to me, very specifically. Then, later
I found out that my sister had given details about my life and that
was why the group brought up these details so that I the coincidences
would help make me feel like I was getting messages from God. The
group was all about "the end justifies the means" and some of the
members felt justified in doing anything to "bring" people to God
even if it meant rigging a study group so that people would feel
connection to God (and want to join this group). They had a disciple
partner system and this disciple partner would teach the person they
would disciple to see all their "sinful" ways. They would encourage
members to move away from their families if the family (who was
really instructed by the devil) was trying to get them out of the
group. They warned members never to listen to an intervention
because it was talk of the devil and they manipulated the words of
the bible to brainwash members. My sister would tell us constantly
that we were going to hell if we didn't become reborn. It was a very
fear based experience.
How did this impact me? Before my sister was out of the group, when
I found out about the "rigged" study groups, I felt betrayed by God,
not trusting of spiritual groups, and a bit lost and depressed. I
had a hard time going into any church. I had trouble talking about
anything spiritual with any group of people. When I would hear
people talk about God, it would trigger negative feelings. When I
would hear about Catholic priests violating young boys, I felt
terrible. Fortunately, I still could pray to God but I could not get
involved with any community related to spirituality. Helping with
the intervention helped alot but for years I still could not enter a
church. I found A Course in Miracles after the cult experience (and
as you know from a prior posting that it was a during a time that I
was going through marrage problems).
Anyway, the Course was the first spiritual words that I could even
read without it triggering extreme fear. It even said in the
beginning something like "this is not a cult". This form of
spiritual guidance helped me because it helped me reconnect with God
in a safe healthy environment and the fact that it did not have a
guru at the top was just what I needed. It never felt like a fraud.
However, although I had this book by my side for the past 14 years,
it wasn't until last year I was able to connect with a group on
this. For 13 years I kept the Course to myself in a sense and it
still helped me tremendously apply to my life and make my life
better. Every once in awhile I felt an urge to connect with others
about the Course but would stop for fear of "such a connection"
ruining the one good spiritual connection I had going on for myself.
Here's the story that led me to this study group here.
Basically, one year ago, I had a happy life (good family life, good
friends, etc.) but I started to feel a restless. I was discontent
but could not put my finger on it. I would read ACIM and it didn't
have the impact that it used to. I still honored and respected it
but I didn't feel like reading it. I felt that my life was blah,
lacking purpose. So, I said a simple prayer (which I hadn't done in
awhile). This was the prayer, "Dear God, I feel restless but don't
know why. I have been looking into churches for my kids but also
want it to be a place I feel comfortable and every church I think
about triggers the cult feeling and I can't do it. I also feel bored
and lacking purpose. I don't have any interest in reading ACIM and
that is what usually inspires me. This prayer thing has helped me in
the past so I am once again giving it a try. Please help, Amen".
Well, 2 days later, I asked a friend what church she went to and she
told me (it is a Unitarian Universalist church). It seemed more open
and of interest but I did not have any passionate feeling about
looking into it. I very half heartedly asked her "Have you ever
heard of A Course in Miracles?" She said, "Thats funny that you
ask. I've never read it but I've always wanted to. My 80 year old
mother, who lives about an hour away, has been leading a discussion
group on A Course in Miracles and had studied Buddism for 20 years.
All of sudden, I felt very interested in talking to my friend about
about her mom and about the Unitarian church. I felt an old
spiritual flame of passion flicker and ignite and bingo I was
interested and later that night I picked up the Course and I "wanted"
to read it again (especially the part about Teachers of God).
Anyway, I went to try out this church. In front of the church I saw
stepping stones that had various sayings written on them (one
was, "Teach only Love for that is what you are - A Course in
Miracles). I knew that for now this is where I needed to be to help
me heal my spiritual disconnectedness when it came to community. I
recognized this as part of an answer to my prayer.
Sooo, this past fall my family and I started going to this church. I
don't know if this is the place for me in the long run. But, it is
where I need to be right now. First it is a place where studying A
Course in Miracles is not weird. It is a lively community of people
that embrace the concept of a universal experience being needed and
people in the community honor one of their basic principles which is
to respect each person's spiritual path to God. Atheists are welcome
as well. This scared me at first(because of old fears that God would
not like atheists) and at the same time this was healing (the God I
think of from the Course would love everyone and not get hung up on
terminology and would honor everyone's path and would help people get
in touch with their own inner guide). When I first went to this
church it triggered old stuff that needed healing within me. First
of all, I felt very uncomfortable just being in a group with people
in a spiritual setting. When I would hear terminology like (UU,
standing for Unitarian Universalist) , I would get a negative feeling
because the cult my sister had been in used lots of symbols and
terminology to unite the group. I had a hard time hearing the word
God (in a public place) or hearing people mention "Jesus" even though
in my own quiet space I loved God and loved Jesus. I would get
fearful hearing other's paths to God for fear that this made me wrong.
Then I looked on the Internet and did a search between ACIM and
Unitarian Universalist and came across a very negative article
(anything goes on the internet which is why it can be a dangerous
place for children and vulnerable adults). Anyway, it was written in
the same way that Katie wrote. This article bashed ACIM and bashed
people like Marianne Williamson. It triggered a lot of fear, anger
and confusion and again a negative feeling about reaching out to
others about spirituality. I had to read the Course quietly on my
own and it took about one week to get over a feeling of assault and
attack. As time went on, when I would listen to others paths,
instead of feeling separated, I felt more united (and I started to
see that many of the same lessons from other traditions were the same
as the Course lessons except presented in a different form).
Last October, I decided to try one of Beverly's study group
recordings. And, you may know the story about me hearing the Witch
imitation from the Wizard of Oz at the beginning of the recording -
it was around Halloween). Well, it made me laugh and for the first
time in awhile, I thought it was possible again to try to connect to
a spiritual community and find enjoyment in doing so. I started
listening to the study group recordings weekly and started to feel a
healing process going on and started to get my own sense of humor
back again (esp. regarding spiritual matters). Jon Mundy's teachings
also helped in this matter.
Then I decided (very tentatively) to try to connect with you all on
this web site (a very brave step for me). I have to say that when I
first signed on it triggered a bunch of stuff in me. When I would
hear people say, Jesus and God instructed me, etc or anything like
that, I would tense up. I was very tentative about being vulnerable
in spiritual matters with you all. I was scared to connect with
others regarding ACIM for fear this connection would somehow ruin the
sacred feeling I have about the Course and it would somehow interfere
with my connection to God. But, I also felt that I needed to go
forward and try this group meeting.
Beverly's way of teaching never triggered this old fear. It was a
good thing because I needed to hear from a teacher in a certain way
that would help me stick with trying to connect to a spiritual
community. Also, as I read all of your postings, over several weeks,
it started to feel healthy to me (not cultish). And, although I am
not comfortable expressing myself using lots of "God" and "Jesus"
talk, I am starting to be less sensitive to others doing so.
My first posting to you all was helpful for me. I needed to express
my need to gravitate toward teachings that were healing to me (humor,
straightforward talk, talk that related to everyday experiences,
etc.). I felt validated by some of your responses. At the time of
my first posting, I had a negative feeling when I would read anything
from Ken Wapnick. This bothered me a little and I decided to stay
away from his books for now. I am starting to recognize when I
am "bothered" that there is probably some need for a change in
perspective. I didn't even realize that I was relaying this in my
first posting. Grenthe's last response regarding my posting helped
me alot. He said something like, "that recording was from 20 years
ago and maybe we have a gentler way to communicate ... he also
mentioned about Ken relating to Mother Teresa and his comment about
how this shows that there are difference ways to find God". Well
this was healing to me because always I had a positive image of
Mother Theresa in my mind and it has helped heal some of my fearful
perceptions about Ken's teachings and about "Christian" teachings.
After Grenthe's posting I didn't feel such fear about Ken's
writings. Right now, I still don't want to read Ken's books but I
can feel more love toward him than I did before (and less fear).
Sometimes, I can clearly see that these are my blocks and that this
stuff is being brought up so that I can gently heal. I appreciated
all of your kind encouragement (and you all seem to do this in the
way I could hear - noone used too much God and Jesus talk to me as if
you sensed my sensitivity) .
When I read another posting about using the Course for "Vision Golf",
it had a funny reaction for me. First, I felt a pang of "oh know,
this is taking things too far" and we can't use the Course to try to
rig the game (so to speak). But, very soon after this I started
laughing and imagining this vision golf in progress and laughing at
myself for taking things way too seriously and this response
about "vision golf" became another healing moment. And, I was able
to look back and really enjoy this posting.
Anyway, when I read Katie's words from that "other" web site, it did
trigger some old stuff. I almost didn't read the whole thing. I
wanted to stop reading because it didn't feel healthy to continue to
read it. Well, I'm glad I continued to read it because, your
response, George, was very helpful to me, another healing moment for
me in this matter.
I do realize that I need to honor my healing process. I don't think
it would be helpful to me at all to search the web and read postings
that trash ACIMs. Also, it would not be good for me to go to that
other web site. And, its not healthy to me to listen to radio talk
shows that talk about others in a trashing way or ways that really
promote "separation" . Basically, its not helpful for me to "seek
out" this negative stuff. Right now, I need to follow Rumi's advice
and "Be with those who help your Being".
I do recognize, however, that I need a healthy way to view things
when I do encounter so called "negative talk" and that the Course is
trying to say that if we look at all of our "brothers" through the
same type of vision as "Christ" then we will view all people and
experiences as "Holy Encounters". That would make life more
enjoyable for sure. I know that it is helpful for me to find ways
to "not let people who trash on spirituality bother me". And, I
would love to see with Christ eyes. But, this is a path and a
process and I can only be where I am at. And, thats o.k. I do have
moments of seeing with this type of vision and when this happens, it
is a feeling of "relief" and happiness and reinforcement that I am on
the right path for me.
I do want to express that, right now, it is important to me that this
web site is secure (shared by people that listen to the weekly
recordings) because that is an environment where I feel like I can
share my vulnerable self. It is an absolute miracle that I feel
comfortable with you all and am able to express some very personal
stuff.
I feel that my prayer one year ago continues to be answered. Good
thing that I gave some willingness to hear the answers to my pray as
they present themselves. After 13 years of studying the Course it
was time that I heal my issue about connecting to others regarding my
spiritual life outside of myself. I now feel I need and desire to be
connected to spiritual communities. Being at the Unitarian Church
and joining this discussion group has helped me heal some old
wounds. Beverly's teachings and listening to you all is helping
integrate the principles of the Course as a part of everyday life (a
way of life to use in all situations). The Course has always served
me and I am feeling like I am being called upon to deepen my
understanding of the Course through relationships and that I am being
called to teach. And, apparently God thinks that for me to teach and
heal involves a need to connect with others in this matter.
Expressing my views on the Course, hearing other's view, and being
more and more comfortable in spiritual communities kind of feels like
a good thing for me. I'm actually starting to see spiritual
community everywhere (not just in the study group or church but at my
daughter's school playground, with my own family, everyone I meet).
You may not hear me say in postings that God told me to do something
or I need to listen to Jesus. But, I mean it all the same using the
language that I am most comfortable. Maybe I am a teacher that will
be able to help others who have a similar resistance to "God talk".
Who knows. I try not to project into the future too much.
Thanks George for showing me that there is another way to look at
things (regarding Katie's post).
Your friend,
Karen
ourslves. I'm not the only one that has been stregthened in my beliefs
about how ACIM works. Zeh has seen it and posted and a friend Karen on
the other website has posted also. I've been feeling MUCH stronger in
my faith because of the back and forth you and I have had. It's as if
God is showning me, yes ACIM does work!
I wanted to share her rather long post because you helped to heal
Karen also and strengthened her faith. You have been one of the
strongest examples about how ACIM works in my life and I want to thank
you again for helping me and others. Here is a copy of Karen's post.
George and All,
When I started reading the Katie post on this other web site, it
triggered fear and anger in me. At first, I was angry that you would
even share this posting. At the end of the post, your response,
however, helped heal some of this. I was glad I read to the end.
Let me explain some of my background and why this probably triggered
fear in me.
** A long posting **
Before I came to A Course in Miracles, my sister had been in a
Religious Cult. She had been in it for 7 years and my family spent
about 1 year studying the group and then, with help from a minister,
exit counseler and ex-member, we had an intervention. I won't go
into all the details of the cult or the intervention. In the end, we
were able to reach her and she decided to leave. This was about 16
years ago (I'm happy to say, my sister worked through this over the
years and now has a healthy spiritual life/experience with a church
and is married with 2 kids and a good marrage).
Anyway, after the cult experience, this is how it impacted me.
Before we realized that the church was a cult, I was interested in
checking it out. I attended bible studies. During the bible
studies, I would feel like I was having spiritual encounters because
the words seemed to be talking to me, very specifically. Then, later
I found out that my sister had given details about my life and that
was why the group brought up these details so that I the coincidences
would help make me feel like I was getting messages from God. The
group was all about "the end justifies the means" and some of the
members felt justified in doing anything to "bring" people to God
even if it meant rigging a study group so that people would feel
connection to God (and want to join this group). They had a disciple
partner system and this disciple partner would teach the person they
would disciple to see all their "sinful" ways. They would encourage
members to move away from their families if the family (who was
really instructed by the devil) was trying to get them out of the
group. They warned members never to listen to an intervention
because it was talk of the devil and they manipulated the words of
the bible to brainwash members. My sister would tell us constantly
that we were going to hell if we didn't become reborn. It was a very
fear based experience.
How did this impact me? Before my sister was out of the group, when
I found out about the "rigged" study groups, I felt betrayed by God,
not trusting of spiritual groups, and a bit lost and depressed. I
had a hard time going into any church. I had trouble talking about
anything spiritual with any group of people. When I would hear
people talk about God, it would trigger negative feelings. When I
would hear about Catholic priests violating young boys, I felt
terrible. Fortunately, I still could pray to God but I could not get
involved with any community related to spirituality. Helping with
the intervention helped alot but for years I still could not enter a
church. I found A Course in Miracles after the cult experience (and
as you know from a prior posting that it was a during a time that I
was going through marrage problems).
Anyway, the Course was the first spiritual words that I could even
read without it triggering extreme fear. It even said in the
beginning something like "this is not a cult". This form of
spiritual guidance helped me because it helped me reconnect with God
in a safe healthy environment and the fact that it did not have a
guru at the top was just what I needed. It never felt like a fraud.
However, although I had this book by my side for the past 14 years,
it wasn't until last year I was able to connect with a group on
this. For 13 years I kept the Course to myself in a sense and it
still helped me tremendously apply to my life and make my life
better. Every once in awhile I felt an urge to connect with others
about the Course but would stop for fear of "such a connection"
ruining the one good spiritual connection I had going on for myself.
Here's the story that led me to this study group here.
Basically, one year ago, I had a happy life (good family life, good
friends, etc.) but I started to feel a restless. I was discontent
but could not put my finger on it. I would read ACIM and it didn't
have the impact that it used to. I still honored and respected it
but I didn't feel like reading it. I felt that my life was blah,
lacking purpose. So, I said a simple prayer (which I hadn't done in
awhile). This was the prayer, "Dear God, I feel restless but don't
know why. I have been looking into churches for my kids but also
want it to be a place I feel comfortable and every church I think
about triggers the cult feeling and I can't do it. I also feel bored
and lacking purpose. I don't have any interest in reading ACIM and
that is what usually inspires me. This prayer thing has helped me in
the past so I am once again giving it a try. Please help, Amen".
Well, 2 days later, I asked a friend what church she went to and she
told me (it is a Unitarian Universalist church). It seemed more open
and of interest but I did not have any passionate feeling about
looking into it. I very half heartedly asked her "Have you ever
heard of A Course in Miracles?" She said, "Thats funny that you
ask. I've never read it but I've always wanted to. My 80 year old
mother, who lives about an hour away, has been leading a discussion
group on A Course in Miracles and had studied Buddism for 20 years.
All of sudden, I felt very interested in talking to my friend about
about her mom and about the Unitarian church. I felt an old
spiritual flame of passion flicker and ignite and bingo I was
interested and later that night I picked up the Course and I "wanted"
to read it again (especially the part about Teachers of God).
Anyway, I went to try out this church. In front of the church I saw
stepping stones that had various sayings written on them (one
was, "Teach only Love for that is what you are - A Course in
Miracles). I knew that for now this is where I needed to be to help
me heal my spiritual disconnectedness when it came to community. I
recognized this as part of an answer to my prayer.
Sooo, this past fall my family and I started going to this church. I
don't know if this is the place for me in the long run. But, it is
where I need to be right now. First it is a place where studying A
Course in Miracles is not weird. It is a lively community of people
that embrace the concept of a universal experience being needed and
people in the community honor one of their basic principles which is
to respect each person's spiritual path to God. Atheists are welcome
as well. This scared me at first(because of old fears that God would
not like atheists) and at the same time this was healing (the God I
think of from the Course would love everyone and not get hung up on
terminology and would honor everyone's path and would help people get
in touch with their own inner guide). When I first went to this
church it triggered old stuff that needed healing within me. First
of all, I felt very uncomfortable just being in a group with people
in a spiritual setting. When I would hear terminology like (UU,
standing for Unitarian Universalist) , I would get a negative feeling
because the cult my sister had been in used lots of symbols and
terminology to unite the group. I had a hard time hearing the word
God (in a public place) or hearing people mention "Jesus" even though
in my own quiet space I loved God and loved Jesus. I would get
fearful hearing other's paths to God for fear that this made me wrong.
Then I looked on the Internet and did a search between ACIM and
Unitarian Universalist and came across a very negative article
(anything goes on the internet which is why it can be a dangerous
place for children and vulnerable adults). Anyway, it was written in
the same way that Katie wrote. This article bashed ACIM and bashed
people like Marianne Williamson. It triggered a lot of fear, anger
and confusion and again a negative feeling about reaching out to
others about spirituality. I had to read the Course quietly on my
own and it took about one week to get over a feeling of assault and
attack. As time went on, when I would listen to others paths,
instead of feeling separated, I felt more united (and I started to
see that many of the same lessons from other traditions were the same
as the Course lessons except presented in a different form).
Last October, I decided to try one of Beverly's study group
recordings. And, you may know the story about me hearing the Witch
imitation from the Wizard of Oz at the beginning of the recording -
it was around Halloween). Well, it made me laugh and for the first
time in awhile, I thought it was possible again to try to connect to
a spiritual community and find enjoyment in doing so. I started
listening to the study group recordings weekly and started to feel a
healing process going on and started to get my own sense of humor
back again (esp. regarding spiritual matters). Jon Mundy's teachings
also helped in this matter.
Then I decided (very tentatively) to try to connect with you all on
this web site (a very brave step for me). I have to say that when I
first signed on it triggered a bunch of stuff in me. When I would
hear people say, Jesus and God instructed me, etc or anything like
that, I would tense up. I was very tentative about being vulnerable
in spiritual matters with you all. I was scared to connect with
others regarding ACIM for fear this connection would somehow ruin the
sacred feeling I have about the Course and it would somehow interfere
with my connection to God. But, I also felt that I needed to go
forward and try this group meeting.
Beverly's way of teaching never triggered this old fear. It was a
good thing because I needed to hear from a teacher in a certain way
that would help me stick with trying to connect to a spiritual
community. Also, as I read all of your postings, over several weeks,
it started to feel healthy to me (not cultish). And, although I am
not comfortable expressing myself using lots of "God" and "Jesus"
talk, I am starting to be less sensitive to others doing so.
My first posting to you all was helpful for me. I needed to express
my need to gravitate toward teachings that were healing to me (humor,
straightforward talk, talk that related to everyday experiences,
etc.). I felt validated by some of your responses. At the time of
my first posting, I had a negative feeling when I would read anything
from Ken Wapnick. This bothered me a little and I decided to stay
away from his books for now. I am starting to recognize when I
am "bothered" that there is probably some need for a change in
perspective. I didn't even realize that I was relaying this in my
first posting. Grenthe's last response regarding my posting helped
me alot. He said something like, "that recording was from 20 years
ago and maybe we have a gentler way to communicate ... he also
mentioned about Ken relating to Mother Teresa and his comment about
how this shows that there are difference ways to find God". Well
this was healing to me because always I had a positive image of
Mother Theresa in my mind and it has helped heal some of my fearful
perceptions about Ken's teachings and about "Christian" teachings.
After Grenthe's posting I didn't feel such fear about Ken's
writings. Right now, I still don't want to read Ken's books but I
can feel more love toward him than I did before (and less fear).
Sometimes, I can clearly see that these are my blocks and that this
stuff is being brought up so that I can gently heal. I appreciated
all of your kind encouragement (and you all seem to do this in the
way I could hear - noone used too much God and Jesus talk to me as if
you sensed my sensitivity) .
When I read another posting about using the Course for "Vision Golf",
it had a funny reaction for me. First, I felt a pang of "oh know,
this is taking things too far" and we can't use the Course to try to
rig the game (so to speak). But, very soon after this I started
laughing and imagining this vision golf in progress and laughing at
myself for taking things way too seriously and this response
about "vision golf" became another healing moment. And, I was able
to look back and really enjoy this posting.
Anyway, when I read Katie's words from that "other" web site, it did
trigger some old stuff. I almost didn't read the whole thing. I
wanted to stop reading because it didn't feel healthy to continue to
read it. Well, I'm glad I continued to read it because, your
response, George, was very helpful to me, another healing moment for
me in this matter.
I do realize that I need to honor my healing process. I don't think
it would be helpful to me at all to search the web and read postings
that trash ACIMs. Also, it would not be good for me to go to that
other web site. And, its not healthy to me to listen to radio talk
shows that talk about others in a trashing way or ways that really
promote "separation" . Basically, its not helpful for me to "seek
out" this negative stuff. Right now, I need to follow Rumi's advice
and "Be with those who help your Being".
I do recognize, however, that I need a healthy way to view things
when I do encounter so called "negative talk" and that the Course is
trying to say that if we look at all of our "brothers" through the
same type of vision as "Christ" then we will view all people and
experiences as "Holy Encounters". That would make life more
enjoyable for sure. I know that it is helpful for me to find ways
to "not let people who trash on spirituality bother me". And, I
would love to see with Christ eyes. But, this is a path and a
process and I can only be where I am at. And, thats o.k. I do have
moments of seeing with this type of vision and when this happens, it
is a feeling of "relief" and happiness and reinforcement that I am on
the right path for me.
I do want to express that, right now, it is important to me that this
web site is secure (shared by people that listen to the weekly
recordings) because that is an environment where I feel like I can
share my vulnerable self. It is an absolute miracle that I feel
comfortable with you all and am able to express some very personal
stuff.
I feel that my prayer one year ago continues to be answered. Good
thing that I gave some willingness to hear the answers to my pray as
they present themselves. After 13 years of studying the Course it
was time that I heal my issue about connecting to others regarding my
spiritual life outside of myself. I now feel I need and desire to be
connected to spiritual communities. Being at the Unitarian Church
and joining this discussion group has helped me heal some old
wounds. Beverly's teachings and listening to you all is helping
integrate the principles of the Course as a part of everyday life (a
way of life to use in all situations). The Course has always served
me and I am feeling like I am being called upon to deepen my
understanding of the Course through relationships and that I am being
called to teach. And, apparently God thinks that for me to teach and
heal involves a need to connect with others in this matter.
Expressing my views on the Course, hearing other's view, and being
more and more comfortable in spiritual communities kind of feels like
a good thing for me. I'm actually starting to see spiritual
community everywhere (not just in the study group or church but at my
daughter's school playground, with my own family, everyone I meet).
You may not hear me say in postings that God told me to do something
or I need to listen to Jesus. But, I mean it all the same using the
language that I am most comfortable. Maybe I am a teacher that will
be able to help others who have a similar resistance to "God talk".
Who knows. I try not to project into the future too much.
Thanks George for showing me that there is another way to look at
things (regarding Katie's post).
Your friend,
Karen
Hi everyone,
I've been having a lot of fun on another Course in
Miracles website and I wanted to share it.
It's a lot different than this one. Check out this
conversation I had with Katie. It's a crack up!
I've been having a lot of fun on another Course in
Miracles website and I wanted to share it.
It's a lot different than this one. Check out this
conversation I had with Katie. It's a crack up!