Is There Hell

[course zealot]

There are many hells, and infinite heavens, and many many, many many, places in
between, perhaps such as the world, though the world is neutral and what you make
it. As are heaven and hell neutral, as all the many worlds are within you.

No one deserves hell, and no one deserves punishment. No one deserves poverty,
and no one deserves prison. No one deserves handicap or sickness at all. But
what everyone deserves is freedom from injustice, and possibly recompenses.
Victimizer deserve to repent and go and sin no more. Every Saint has a past.
Every sinner has a future. Two wrongs don't make a right. Or else three do.

"The Holy Spirit teaches thus: There is no hell. Hell is only what the ego has
made of the present. The belief in hell is what prevents you from understanding
the present, because you are afraid of it. The Holy Spirit leads as steadily to
Heaven as the ego drives to hell. For the Holy Spirit, Who knows only the
present, uses it to undo the fear by which the ego would make the present useless.
There is no escape from fear in the ego's use of time. For time, according to
its teaching, is nothing but a teaching device for compounding guilt until it
becomes all-encompassing, demanding vengeance forever.

The Holy Spirit would undo all of this now. Fear is not of the present, but only
of the past and future, which do not exist. There is no fear in the present when
each instant stands clear and separated from the past, without its shadow reaching
out into the future. Each instant is a clean, untarnished birth, in which the Son
of God emerges from the past into the present. And the present extends forever.
It is so beautiful and so clean and free of guilt that nothing but happiness is
there. No darkness is remembered, and immortality and joy are now.

This lesson takes no time. For what is time without a past and future? It has
taken time to misguide you so completely, but it takes no time at all to be what
you are. Begin to practice the Holy Spirit's use of time as a teaching aid to
happiness and peace. Take this very instant, now, and think of it as all there is
of time. Nothing can reach you here out of the past, and it is here that you are
completely absolved, completely free and wholly without condemnation. From this
holy instant wherein holiness was born again you will go forth in time without
fear, and with no sense of change with time.

Time is inconceivable without change, yet holiness does not change. Learn from
this instant more than merely that hell does not exist. In this redeeming instant
lies Heaven. And Heaven will not change, for the birth into the holy present is
salvation from change. Change is an illusion, taught by those who cannot see
themselves as guiltless. There is no change in Heaven because there is no change
in God. In the holy instant, in which you see yourself as bright with freedom,
you will remember God. For remembering Him *is* to remember freedom."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 15, Section 1

From instant to instant we can measure change, and thus movement, but:

"Whenever we move from one instant to the next, the previous one no longer exists."
- A Course in Miracles, Urtext, Unedited Edition, pp. 78

But,

"The moment is forever,"
- Childlike Empress, The Neverending Story, p. 98

"If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And
if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to
you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 17:3-4, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV

There is forgiveness for the repentant.

If satan presides over hell, he must be a sadist. Therefore sadism is satanism
too. Some people in our world try to depress depression with pills. Others in
our world try to restrict our freedom as of right.

Others in our world recognize our happiness and freedom as of right. I do.


"I am entitled to miracles"
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 77

"My happiness and my function are one."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 66

"God, being Love, is also happiness."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 103

vengeance = blood atonement...

Truly evil and unintelligence must go hand in hand.


"God wills no one suffer. He does not will anyone to suffer for a wrong decision,
including you."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 8, Section 3

"I will with God that none of His Sons should suffer."
- Jesus Christ, A Course in Miracles, Chapter 6, Section 1

What is hell ultimately, but really bad feelings, and having to live with people
you don't want to; and prison.


"The mind can make the belief in separation very real and very fearful, and this
belief is the "devil. "It is powerful, active, destructive and clearly in
opposition to God, because it literally denies His Fatherhood. Look at your life
and see what the devil has made. But realize that this making will surely
dissolve in the light of truth, because its foundation is a lie. Your creation by
God is the only Foundation that cannot be shaken, because the light is in it."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 3, Section 7

[course zealot]

Ebola and Leprosy are the likes of what we deal with, and murderers and capital
criminals make us desperate men. If somebody killed your spouse and child and cut
off your hand, and wasn't sorry, would you just blow them away or want to? And if
they were sorry would it make any difference? And if you were driving along a
windy dark road, and hit an icy patch and went off the road and your spouse and
child died, and you lost your hand, and there was nobody to blame, and it was
nobody's fault, how would that compare?

While we have a right to fight for freedom, and self-defense, Vengeance = blood
atonement

No one deserves hell, and no one deserves punishment. No one deserves poverty,
and no one deserves prison. No one deserves handicap or sickness at all. But
what everyone deserves is freedom from injustice, and possibly recompenses.
Victimizer deserve to repent and go and sin no more. Every Saint has a past.
Every sinner has a future. Two wrongs don't make a right. Or else three do.

I don't know what you think, but I don't care if I've killed 150 million people.
Do you want to reconcile, or do you want me to kill 150 million more.

_I love me_. If you don't love me, I hate you.


So granted you have to turn that around, someone's killed off half my society, I'm
the President because I'm all that's left. So they've killed 150 million, they've
raped, murdered, burned innocent men, women, children, alive, committed every
horror known in a horror movie, on video. Maybe you think you have the upper
hand, maybe you think they do. You ask them, well are you going to live next door
to me, or far away, they go I don't know. What are you going to do?

Do you want to reconcile, or do you want them to kill 150 million more?

For the sake of blood atonement do you demand vengeance. Do you think one more
wrong will make a right? So their lie won't persist, whether or not they're
repentant?

Doesn't the Bible say "leave vengeance to God?" While the governments and the
rogues of the world say "leave vengeance to me."

And what if there's no hell? Most people don't believe in it anyway. If you do,
maybe you'll go there. Some Muslims who killed near 3,000 on 911 believed they
would each get 77 virgins or some such thing.

Didn't you hear the part about "Jesus died for our sins?" That doesn't justify
sin. But it _does_ absolve us all from punishment. "and we can see. And we can
see!" - A Course in Miracles

If Christ can raise the dead. Then you have hope of salvation. And if he can't,
then why do you believe in condemnation of any form?

The same Spirit who raised Christ Jesus from the dead dwells in you:

"And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who
raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His
Spirit who dwells in you."
- Paul the Apostle, Romans 8:11, Holy Bible, New Testament

If the same Spirit who raised Christ Jesus from the dead dwells in you, then to
screw you would be to screw that Spirit. And so it is.

So you might as well screw yourself. What you're doing to others you're doing to
yourself in many ways on many levels:

"Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My
Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for
I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a
stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you
visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and
feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take
You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and
come to You?’ And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you,
inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to
Me.’" - Jesus Christ, Matt 25:34-40

"God wills no one suffer. He does not will anyone to suffer for a wrong decision,
including you."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 8, Section 3

"I will with God that none of His Sons should suffer."
- Jesus Christ, A Course in Miracles, Chapter 6, Section 1


Paul the Apostle:
"But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose
minds the god of this age (Satan) has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light
of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them."


"[God] made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but
of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so
that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because
of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?
For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness
exceeds much more in glory.
For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory
that excels.
For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.
Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech- unlike Moses,
who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look
steadily at the end of what was passing away.
But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in
the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord,
are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the
Spirit of the Lord.

Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose
heart.
But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor
handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending
ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God."

"And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, "I
believed and therefore I spoke," {Psalm 116:10} we also believe and therefore
speak - "

"For all things are for your sakes, that grace, having spread through the many,
may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God."

"Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ,
and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing
their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us:
we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God."

- Paul the Apostle, 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 3:6-4:2, 4:13, 4:15 5:18-20

[course zealot]

Is that the person whom you jacked wants to jack you back possibly.

Some servant of hell perhaps.

And what do you care. You're with you, and you defend you. (if you can't
reconcile or make enriching recompenses to them)

And what do they care? If they jacked you, you're going to get them huh?

If they keep choosing you, maybe you'll defend yourself. But otherwise? So you
don't merely pursue them to the grave, if from beyond the grave; you pursue them
beyond the grave? You're a torturer? You think you'll make yourself happier? I
think Satan has a place for you among the people with black eyes. I think you'll
leave one day, very upset. I don't think you're being sane. And I think you're
interested in self harm. So is every cop and court in this land.

No one deserves punishment. But everyone deserves freedom from injustice. Victims
perhaps deserve recompenses.


"The mind can make the belief in separation very real and very fearful, and this
belief is the "devil. "It is powerful, active, destructive and clearly in
opposition to God, because it literally denies His Fatherhood. Look at your life
and see what the devil has made. But realize that this making will surely
dissolve in the light of truth, because its foundation is a lie. Your creation by
God is the only Foundation that cannot be shaken, because the light is in it."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 3, Section 7

[course zealot]

That we're attacked all the time in this world is apparent,
People who attack ruin our self-esteem, and our happiness. They are sadists, and
it is sad to live among the devils.

If Satan presides over hell he must be a sadist. Therefore sadism is Satanism too.

"To heal is to make happy." We are here on earth to make others happy.

Hell exists, and no one deserves it. There are many hells, and infinite heavens,
and many, many, many, many, places in between, such as "Earth," though the world
is neutral and what you make it. As are heaven and hell neutral, as all the many
worlds are within you. Hell is ultimately really bad feelings, and having to live
with people you don't want to live with, and prison. No one deserves hell. No
one deserves punishment. Punishment is deportation to segregated housing where the
victim is intentionally deprived and impoverished. Such incarceration is capital
punishment. People imprisoned almost certainly die younger than they would of,
making the penalty "death by incarceration." And their body is stolen while they
are incarcerated, making the punishment capital. No one deserves punishment, and
everyone deserves freedom from injustice, and victims possibly deserve recompenses.

So as I repeat, no one deserves hell, and we appreciate dissolving it, and no one
deserves punishment.

All bad things come to an end, and as the Course teaches, all thoughts of love are
true for all time - if only because you choose them.

Further,
"Any ability that anyone develops has the potentiality for good. To this there is
no exception..."

"Psychic" abilities have been used to call upon the devil, which merely means to
strengthen the ego."
- A Course in Miracles

"Yet here is also a great channel of hope and healing in the Holy Spirit's service."
- A Course in Miracles

"Evil does not exist at all... Evil in its nature is neither a thing nor does it
bring anything forth... All things which are, by the very fact that they are, are
good and come from good; but insofar as they are deprived of good, they are
neither good nor do they exist."
- St. Dionysius the Areopagite - First "bishop" of Athens (attributed)

Truly evil is to do something against another's will, for that is a contradiction,
and thus that is an error. Capital crimes are the greatest, for freedom is
right, and murder is wrong. Stealing a poor man's uninsured horse may be capital.
Someone with Ebola is a danger to others, and truly all crime is but a disease.
Poverty is the root of all kinds of evil, and those who attack are poor. (NKJV,ACIM)

Unintelligence and evil go hand in hand.

An attack upon an evil doer, which insults and condemns and blames, and vilifies
the evil doer, as worse than a person merely with Ebola, is an "ad-hominem"
attack. The person may be a "known demon," but they are also, in truth, a "known
son of god."

Thought precedes action.

No one ever got 100% on every academic test. They are not guilty for making
errors on a test. Erroneous thought precedes erroneous action. Good thought
precedes good action.

Insult is hate speech.

Hate speech which preaches hell and Satan, and punishment, advocates hell and
Satan, and punishment.

Punishment is wilful malicious violence with deliberative aforethought, and is
sadistic hatred, and is condemnable.


Hate speech precedes the action of rationalized [or justified] violence, which is
sadistic attack and service to evil.

It therefore is close to either threatening, or advocating, such [evil]
attack/[crime]. Whether advocating attack; or punishment - which is crime on crime.

Jesus saves people from hell, he doesn't put them there.


If your true religion is ultimately Truth, and not form or concept, then an insult
of a religion may not quite insult you personally, but may still be perceived as
insulting.

So someone is not insulting your religion, if your religion is the Truth, or if
the Truth is your religion, but is just lying.


"Satan accuses our brethren before our God, day and night" Revelations 12:10

"Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. We know that we have passed
from death to life, because we love one another."
- St. John the Divine, 1 John 3:13-14a, Holy Bible, New Testament

“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you
were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the
world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember
the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they
persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep
yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because
they do not know Him who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they
would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me
hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else
did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My
Father. But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in
their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.’"
- Jesus Christ, John 15:18-25, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV

"If God is for us, who can be against us?
"As it is written:
“For Your sake we are killed all day long;
We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”
Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us."
- Romans 8:36-37
read whole good passage:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A31-39&version=NKJV

To send someone to punishment or to hell, is to bring them to destruction and not
to bring them to justice (motivations for crime = property, sex, & criminal
insanity, (and maybe fighting the government - which shouldn't be an issue in a
civilized country); motivations for punishment = guilt, vengeance, & deterrence =
all 3 untenable, while 3 contemplatively tenable motivations for punishment = 1.
Prevention/segregation, - 2. That the victimizer knows what they're doing to
others, - & 3. That the victimizer's lie doesn't persist, whether it's "might
makes right" or otherwise; in which case I guess the victim(s) doesn't have strong
faith. Attack is insult. Would it make a difference if: 1. Someone killed your
spouse, and child, and cut off your hand and wasn't repentant, or 2. If they
_were_ repentant, or 3. If you got in an accident, and with no one to blame, and
your spouse and child died and you lost your hand.

Our law enforcement has too much faith in violence, hell and death. The lawless
who believe murderers are "men of respect," are likewise. Everyone deserves
respect. Murderers and bullies if temporarily excepted. - It's not like we are
with _law_, in terms of being under it, but it's not like we are with crime.
People should understand contradiction, and error, and fundamental law, and
respect one another, and thus, through intelligence, be brought to justice, and
not to destruction. - We are to live by grace and the pen, and not the law and
the sword - Yet self defense _is_ the first law of nature; and human rights hang
on self defense (self-defense may be the last law of nature also). We have an
unequivocal and uninfringable right to fight for freedom and self defense. Wars
are fought over property and freedom. When men have neither property nor freedom
they have nothing to live for. Poverty leads to war and war leads to poverty.
Mutually assured destruction is unequivocally the end of war.

all that punishment is, is criminal insanity.
This is evident because they're trying to do something you _don't want_.

You may just say "I want everything" or anything they do, confounding their insult
and their unequivocal attempts to hurt you.



"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them
over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled
with all unrighteousness, ...wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of
envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters,
haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to
parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who,
knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are
deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever
you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same
things. But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those
who practice such things."
- Romans 1:28-2:2



"I once asked you to sell all you have and give to the poor and follow me. This
is what I meant: If you have no investment in anything in this world, you can
teach the poor where their treasure is. The poor are merely those who have
invested wrongly, and they are poor indeed! Because they are in need it is given
you to help them, since you are among them. Consider how perfectly your lesson
would be learned if you were unwilling to share their poverty. For poverty is
lack, and there is but one lack since there is but one need.
Suppose a brother insists on having you do something you think you do not want to
do. His very insistence should tell you that he believes salvation lies in it. If
you insist on refusing and experience a quick response of opposition, you are
believing that your salvation lies in not doing it. You, then, are making the same
mistake he is, and are making his error real to both of you. Insistence means
investment, and what you invest in is always related to your notion of salvation.
The question is always twofold; first, what is to be saved? And second, how can it
be saved?"


"Whenever you become angry with a brother, for whatever reason, you are believing
that the ego is to be saved, and to be saved by attack. If he attacks, you are
agreeing with this belief; and if you attack, you are reinforcing it. Remember
that those who attack are poor. Their poverty asks for gifts, not for further
impoverishment. You who could help them are surely acting destructively if you
accept their poverty as yours. If you had not invested as they had, it would never
occur to you to overlook their need.


Recognize what does not matter, and if your brothers ask you for something
"outrageous," do it because it does not matter. Refuse, and your opposition
establishes that it does matter to you. It is only you, therefore, who have made
the request outrageous, and every request of a brother is for you. Why would you
insist in denying him? For to do so is to deny yourself and impoverish both. he is
asking for salvation, as you are. Poverty is of the ego, and never of God. No
"outrageous" requests can be made of one who recognizes what is valuable and wants
to accept nothing else.
Salvation is for the mind, and it is attained through peace. This is the only
thing that can be saved and the only way to save it. Any response other than love
arises from a confusion about the "what" and the "how" of salvation, and this is
the only answer. Never lose sight of this, and never allow yourself to believe,
even for an instant, that there is another answer. For you will surely place
yourself among the poor, who do not understand that they dwell in abundance and
that salvation is come.
To identify with the ego is to attack yourself and make yourself poor. That is why
everyone who identifies with the ego feels deprived. What he experiences then is
depression or anger, because what he did was to exchange self-love for self-hate,
making him afraid of himself. he does not realize this. Even if he is fully aware
of anxiety he does not perceive its source as his own ego identification, and he
always tries to handle it by making some sort of insane "arrangement" with the
world. He always perceives this world as outside himself, for this is crucial to
his adjustment. He does not realize that he makes this world, for there is no
world outside of him.
If only the loving thoughts of God's Son are the world's reality, the real world
must be in his mind. His insane thoughts, too, must be in his mind, but an
internal conflict of this magnitude he cannot tolerate. A split mind is
endangered, and the recognition that it encompasses completely opposed thoughts
within itself is intolerable. Therefore the mind projects the split, not the
reality. Everything you perceive as the outside world is merely your attempt to
maintain your ego identification, for everyone believes that identification is
salvation. Yet consider what has happened, for thoughts do have consequences to
the thinker. You have become at odds with the world as you perceive it, because
you think it is antagonistic to you. This is a necessary consequence of what you
have done. You have projected outward what is antagonistic to what is inward, and
therefore you would have to perceive it this way. That is why you must realize
that your hatred is in your mind and not outside it before you can get rid of it;
and why you must get rid of it before you can perceive the world as it really is.

I said before that God so loved the world that he gave it to his only begotten
Son. God does love the real world, and those who perceive its reality cannot see
the world of death. For death is not of the real world, in which everything
reflects the eternal. God gave you the real world in exchange for the one you made
out of your split mind, and which is the symbol of death. For if you could really
separate yourself from the Mind of God you would die.
The world you perceive is a world of separation. Perhaps you are willing to accept
even death to deny your Father. Yet he would not have it so, and so it is not so.
You still cannot will against him, and that is why you have no control over the
world you made. It is not a world of will because it is governed by the desire to
be unlike God, and this desire is not will. The world you made is therefore
totally chaotic, governed by arbitrary and senseless "laws," and without meaning
of any kind. For it is made out of what you do not want, projected from your mind
because you are afraid of it. Yet this world is only in the mind of its maker,
along with his real salvation. Do not believe it is outside of yourself, for only
by recognizing where it is will you gain control over it. For you do have control
over your mind, since the mind is the mechanism of decision.
If you will recognize that all the attack you perceive is in your own mind and
nowhere else, you will at last have placed its source, and where it begins it must
end. For in this same place also lies salvation. The altar of God where Christ
abideth is there. You have defiled the altar, but not the world. Yet Christ has
placed the Atonement on the altar for you. Bring your perceptions of the world to
this altar, for it is the altar to truth. There you will see your vision changed,
and there you will learn to see truly. From this place, where God and his Son
dwell in peace and where you are welcome, you will look out in peace and behold
the world truly. Yet to find the place, you must relinquish your investment in the
world as you project it, allowing the Holy Spirit to extend the real world to you
from the altar of God."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 7

[course zealot]

"The acceptance of guilt into the mind of God's Son was the beginning of the
separation, as the acceptance of the Atonement is its end. The world you see is
the delusional system of those made mad by guilt. Look carefully at this world,
and you will realize that this is so. For this world is the symbol of punishment,
and all the laws that seem to govern it are the laws of death. Children are born
into it through pain and in pain. Their growth is attended by suffering, and they
learn of sorrow and separation and death. Their minds seem to be trapped in their
brain, and its powers to decline if their bodies are hurt. They seem to love, yet
they desert and are deserted. They appear to lose what they love, perhaps the
most insane belief of all. And their bodies wither and gasp and are laid in the
ground, and are no more. Not one of them but has thought that God is cruel. If
this were the real world, God would be cruel.

This world is a picture of the crucifixion of God's Son. And until you realize
that God's Son cannot be crucified, this is the world you will see. Yet you will
not realize this until you accept the eternal fact that God's Son is not guilty.
He deserves only love because he has given only love. He cannot be condemned
because he has never condemned. The Atonement is the final lesson he need learn,
for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 13, Introduction


The real world is the world of light in your mind. And you can overcome the
world, but it's just health wealth, and people problems.

But, I ask, can you overcome the adversary? Can you overcome people problems?

If two miracle workers disagree, what then?


"Does one whose vision has already glimpsed the face of Christ look back with
longing on a slaughter house?"
- A Course in Miracles, Manual for Teachers, 13, "What Is the Real Meaning of
Sacrifice?"
"No one who has escaped the world and all its ills looks back on it with
condemnation. Yet he must rejoice that he is free of all the sacrifice its values
would demand of him."

"God's Word assures you that He loves the world; your judgment says it is
unlovable. Who is right? For one of you is wrong. It must be so."
Manual for Teachers, Section 11, How Is Peace Possible in This World?


"I said before that God so loved the world that he gave it to his only begotten
Son. God does love the real world, and those who perceive its reality cannot see
the world of death. For death is not of the real world, in which everything
reflects the eternal. God gave you the real world in exchange for the one you made
out of your split mind, and which is the symbol of death. For if you could really
separate yourself from the Mind of God you would die.
The world you perceive is a world of separation."

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
There are many hells, and infinite heavens, and many many, many many, places in
between, perhaps such as the world, though the world is neutral and what you make
it. As are heaven and hell neutral, as all the many worlds are within you.
No one deserves hell, and no one deserves punishment. No one deserves poverty,
and no one deserves prison. No one deserves handicap or sickness at all. But
what everyone deserves is freedom from injustice, and possibly recompenses.
Victimizer deserve to repent and go and sin no more. Every Saint has a past.
Every sinner has a future. Two wrongs don't make a right. Or else three do.
"The Holy Spirit teaches thus: There is no hell. Hell is only what the ego has
made of the present. The belief in hell is what prevents you from understanding
the present, because you are afraid of it. The Holy Spirit leads as steadily to
Heaven as the ego drives to hell. For the Holy Spirit, Who knows only the
present, uses it to undo the fear by which the ego would make the present useless.
There is no escape from fear in the ego's use of time. For time, according to
its teaching, is nothing but a teaching device for compounding guilt until it
becomes all-encompassing, demanding vengeance forever.
The Holy Spirit would undo all of this now. Fear is not of the present, but only
of the past and future, which do not exist. There is no fear in the present when
each instant stands clear and separated from the past, without its shadow reaching
out into the future. Each instant is a clean, untarnished birth, in which the Son
of God emerges from the past into the present. And the present extends forever.
It is so beautiful and so clean and free of guilt that nothing but happiness is
there. No darkness is remembered, and immortality and joy are now.
This lesson takes no time. For what is time without a past and future? It has
taken time to misguide you so completely, but it takes no time at all to be what
you are. Begin to practice the Holy Spirit's use of time as a teaching aid to
happiness and peace. Take this very instant, now, and think of it as all there is
of time. Nothing can reach you here out of the past, and it is here that you are
completely absolved, completely free and wholly without condemnation. From this
holy instant wherein holiness was born again you will go forth in time without
fear, and with no sense of change with time.
Time is inconceivable without change, yet holiness does not change. Learn from
this instant more than merely that hell does not exist. In this redeeming instant
lies Heaven. And Heaven will not change, for the birth into the holy present is
salvation from change. Change is an illusion, taught by those who cannot see
themselves as guiltless. There is no change in Heaven because there is no change
in God. In the holy instant, in which you see yourself as bright with freedom,
you will remember God. For remembering Him *is* to remember freedom."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 15, Section 1
"Whenever we move from one instant to the next, the previous one no longer exists."
- A Course in Miracles, Urtext, Unedited Edition, pp. 78
But,
"The moment is forever,"
- Childlike Empress, The Neverending Story, p. 98
"If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And
if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to
you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 17:3-4, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
There is forgiveness for the repentant.
If satan presides over hell, he must be a sadist. Therefore sadism is satanism
too. Some people in our world try to depress depression with pills. Others in
our world try to restrict our freedom as of right.
Others in our world recognize our happiness and freedom as of right. I do.
"I am entitled to miracles"
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 77
"My happiness and my function are one."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 66
"God, being Love, is also happiness."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 103
vengeance = blood atonement...
Truly evil and unintelligence must go hand in hand.
"God wills no one suffer. He does not will anyone to suffer for a wrong decision,
including you."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 8, Section 3
"I will with God that none of His Sons should suffer."
- Jesus Christ, A Course in Miracles, Chapter 6, Section 1
What is hell ultimately, but really bad feelings, and having to live with people
you don't want to; and prison.
"The mind can make the belief in separation very real and very fearful, and this
belief is the "devil. "It is powerful, active, destructive and clearly in
opposition to God, because it literally denies His Fatherhood. Look at your life
and see what the devil has made. But realize that this making will surely
dissolve in the light of truth, because its foundation is a lie. Your creation by
God is the only Foundation that cannot be shaken, because the light is in it."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 3, Section 7

Bump

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
There are many hells, and infinite heavens, and many many, many many, places in
between, perhaps such as the world, though the world is neutral and what you make
it. As are heaven and hell neutral, as all the many worlds are within you.
No one deserves hell, and no one deserves punishment. No one deserves poverty,
and no one deserves prison. No one deserves handicap or sickness at all. But
what everyone deserves is freedom from injustice, and possibly recompenses.
Victimizer deserve to repent and go and sin no more. Every Saint has a past.
Every sinner has a future. Two wrongs don't make a right. Or else three do.
"The Holy Spirit teaches thus: There is no hell. Hell is only what the ego has
made of the present. The belief in hell is what prevents you from understanding
the present, because you are afraid of it. The Holy Spirit leads as steadily to
Heaven as the ego drives to hell. For the Holy Spirit, Who knows only the
present, uses it to undo the fear by which the ego would make the present useless.
There is no escape from fear in the ego's use of time. For time, according to
its teaching, is nothing but a teaching device for compounding guilt until it
becomes all-encompassing, demanding vengeance forever.
The Holy Spirit would undo all of this now. Fear is not of the present, but only
of the past and future, which do not exist. There is no fear in the present when
each instant stands clear and separated from the past, without its shadow reaching
out into the future. Each instant is a clean, untarnished birth, in which the Son
of God emerges from the past into the present. And the present extends forever.
It is so beautiful and so clean and free of guilt that nothing but happiness is
there. No darkness is remembered, and immortality and joy are now.
This lesson takes no time. For what is time without a past and future? It has
taken time to misguide you so completely, but it takes no time at all to be what
you are. Begin to practice the Holy Spirit's use of time as a teaching aid to
happiness and peace. Take this very instant, now, and think of it as all there is
of time. Nothing can reach you here out of the past, and it is here that you are
completely absolved, completely free and wholly without condemnation. From this
holy instant wherein holiness was born again you will go forth in time without
fear, and with no sense of change with time.
Time is inconceivable without change, yet holiness does not change. Learn from
this instant more than merely that hell does not exist. In this redeeming instant
lies Heaven. And Heaven will not change, for the birth into the holy present is
salvation from change. Change is an illusion, taught by those who cannot see
themselves as guiltless. There is no change in Heaven because there is no change
in God. In the holy instant, in which you see yourself as bright with freedom,
you will remember God. For remembering Him *is* to remember freedom."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 15, Section 1
"Whenever we move from one instant to the next, the previous one no longer exists."
- A Course in Miracles, Urtext, Unedited Edition, pp. 78
But,
"The moment is forever,"
- Childlike Empress, The Neverending Story, p. 98
"If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And
if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to
you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 17:3-4, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
There is forgiveness for the repentant.
If satan presides over hell, he must be a sadist. Therefore sadism is satanism
too. Some people in our world try to depress depression with pills. Others in
our world try to restrict our freedom as of right.
Others in our world recognize our happiness and freedom as of right. I do.
"I am entitled to miracles"
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 77
"My happiness and my function are one."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 66
"God, being Love, is also happiness."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 103
vengeance = blood atonement...
Truly evil and unintelligence must go hand in hand.
"God wills no one suffer. He does not will anyone to suffer for a wrong decision,
including you."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 8, Section 3
"I will with God that none of His Sons should suffer."
- Jesus Christ, A Course in Miracles, Chapter 6, Section 1
What is hell ultimately, but really bad feelings, and having to live with people
you don't want to; and prison.
"The mind can make the belief in separation very real and very fearful, and this
belief is the "devil. "It is powerful, active, destructive and clearly in
opposition to God, because it literally denies His Fatherhood. Look at your life
and see what the devil has made. But realize that this making will surely
dissolve in the light of truth, because its foundation is a lie. Your creation by
God is the only Foundation that cannot be shaken, because the light is in it."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 3, Section 7

Bump

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
There are many hells, and infinite heavens, and many many, many many, places in
between, perhaps such as the world, though the world is neutral and what you make
it. As are heaven and hell neutral, as all the many worlds are within you.
No one deserves hell, and no one deserves punishment. No one deserves poverty,
and no one deserves prison. No one deserves handicap or sickness at all. But
what everyone deserves is freedom from injustice, and possibly recompenses.
Victimizer deserve to repent and go and sin no more. Every Saint has a past.
Every sinner has a future. Two wrongs don't make a right. Or else three do.
"The Holy Spirit teaches thus: There is no hell. Hell is only what the ego has
made of the present. The belief in hell is what prevents you from understanding
the present, because you are afraid of it. The Holy Spirit leads as steadily to
Heaven as the ego drives to hell. For the Holy Spirit, Who knows only the
present, uses it to undo the fear by which the ego would make the present useless.
There is no escape from fear in the ego's use of time. For time, according to
its teaching, is nothing but a teaching device for compounding guilt until it
becomes all-encompassing, demanding vengeance forever.
The Holy Spirit would undo all of this now. Fear is not of the present, but only
of the past and future, which do not exist. There is no fear in the present when
each instant stands clear and separated from the past, without its shadow reaching
out into the future. Each instant is a clean, untarnished birth, in which the Son
of God emerges from the past into the present. And the present extends forever.
It is so beautiful and so clean and free of guilt that nothing but happiness is
there. No darkness is remembered, and immortality and joy are now.
This lesson takes no time. For what is time without a past and future? It has
taken time to misguide you so completely, but it takes no time at all to be what
you are. Begin to practice the Holy Spirit's use of time as a teaching aid to
happiness and peace. Take this very instant, now, and think of it as all there is
of time. Nothing can reach you here out of the past, and it is here that you are
completely absolved, completely free and wholly without condemnation. From this
holy instant wherein holiness was born again you will go forth in time without
fear, and with no sense of change with time.
Time is inconceivable without change, yet holiness does not change. Learn from
this instant more than merely that hell does not exist. In this redeeming instant
lies Heaven. And Heaven will not change, for the birth into the holy present is
salvation from change. Change is an illusion, taught by those who cannot see
themselves as guiltless. There is no change in Heaven because there is no change
in God. In the holy instant, in which you see yourself as bright with freedom,
you will remember God. For remembering Him *is* to remember freedom."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 15, Section 1
"Whenever we move from one instant to the next, the previous one no longer exists."
- A Course in Miracles, Urtext, Unedited Edition, pp. 78
But,
"The moment is forever,"
- Childlike Empress, The Neverending Story, p. 98
"If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And
if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to
you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 17:3-4, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
There is forgiveness for the repentant.
If satan presides over hell, he must be a sadist. Therefore sadism is satanism
too. Some people in our world try to depress depression with pills. Others in
our world try to restrict our freedom as of right.
Others in our world recognize our happiness and freedom as of right. I do.
"I am entitled to miracles"
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 77
"My happiness and my function are one."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 66
"God, being Love, is also happiness."
- A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 103
vengeance = blood atonement...
Truly evil and unintelligence must go hand in hand.
"God wills no one suffer. He does not will anyone to suffer for a wrong decision,
including you."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 8, Section 3
"I will with God that none of His Sons should suffer."
- Jesus Christ, A Course in Miracles, Chapter 6, Section 1
What is hell ultimately, but really bad feelings, and having to live with people
you don't want to; and prison.
"The mind can make the belief in separation very real and very fearful, and this
belief is the "devil. "It is powerful, active, destructive and clearly in
opposition to God, because it literally denies His Fatherhood. Look at your life
and see what the devil has made. But realize that this making will surely
dissolve in the light of truth, because its foundation is a lie. Your creation by
God is the only Foundation that cannot be shaken, because the light is in it."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 3, Section 7

Bump