Love trap

[HappyD]

Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what you
may.

[Carrie]

Post by HappyD
Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what you
may.

I already did this long ago. I didn't realize I did it, just aware it
happened. It didn't matter to me what Sid said here. The way you make it
sound it's like a planned and plotted manipulation. Like we plan to kill
him/her with kindness LOL

[Carrie]

Post by HappyD
Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what you
may.

I had that done to me once. Or some tried it. Someone who found out gave
me the link to the private board where they were writing about me. The board
hadn't been started for this, but it had evolved into it. A few of them
(from one of the "ACIM" groups) had decided I was really a good person, but
had taken up with the wrong people (online) Translated, I didn't see the
enemies the way they did and they felt I should. So, they had (maybe
informally) joined in trying to get me to see them as friends, so they
could, at some point, show me a better way. They'd write on another board I
was on, and be "friendly" and then compare notes and comment on the behind
the back one, as to how they were doing. If they felt I was responding to
their reaching out to me in friendship and love, which (they felt) might get
me to see others I WAS friendly with (along with them, I'm pretty much
friendly with everyone, given half a chance) as NOT people I should be
friendly to, and treat in any kind of nice way.
I remember how betryaed I felt reading their posts. Their "getting along
and being a friend" (to me, elsewhere) was conditional. It was using "love"
in a manipulative way. For whatever reason. Maybe they just wanted to get me
in with them, their "side" like to score points with those they felt were
the enemy.
I didn't and don't see how this has anything to do with living what ACIM
teaches. The same as when I was put on moderation on Course_Talk they said
"for several months" till they could see who's side I was on. When I asked
how seeing sides (and enemies and the need for defense) related to ACIM? I
was banned from the group.
But, back to the topic, I have experienced the idea of using "love" (or
friendship, or joining or whatever) as a tool, or weapon, or manipulation,
and even though I assume you weren't being serious here with Sidney, I would
understand if he saw it otherwise and didn't feel okay about it.
Oh, on tht other group, I read (without them knowing I was reading on
it). I always feel dishonest about such things, like not letting them know I
know about it (and it wasn't any private group, just that they felt only a
few knew the link to it. But, with boards like that, they don't really stay
private for long). I started reposting posts from the group on the ohter
group I was on. In responses to their phoney "friendship" (with an ulterior
motive) Well first I asked them if they were writing about me (amongst
themselves) on any onther board or group? They all assured me they WEREN"T.
LOL
Of course, me posting what they'd been writing elsewhere did not go over
big. They didn't like it, and turned it into me spying on them, and such.
Over the years there have been a lot of private boards and groups. Some
are even password protected. There probably still are. At some point I used
to get the link to them (like it would be passed around by some, losing
track of the point it wasn't supposed to be given out to all). In all such
cases, their private board was mainly gossip and talking about others who
(they thought) didn't know about their board.
That's how I first got involved in the first TGP (Raj) group- which
started out being open, unmoderated, and free for all. Till people started
asking questions and pointing out inconsistences about their finances and
"Foundation". But, there was a private board ":for the serious study of
Raj". I read about this on another board I used to read on (not private).
Of course the link to the "privat board to study Raj- and work had at
Awakening from the Dream") was SECRET and not everyone was givien it. At
one point it came to my attention and I saw their board. Which was
(literally) all about what was going on, on the open board. What people were
writing, and how best to handle it, and how to get rid of the enemies (the
so called trolls).
Thinking back at it, it's kind of funny in a way, and an education.
And, really doesn't matter, in an overall scheme of things. Just that I
would never knowingly join with anyone who planned (or even considered) to
use "loving someone" (or what ACIM teaches) in a manipulative (ego) way.

[HappyD]

Post by HappyD
Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what you
may.

  I had that done to me once. Or some tried it. Someone who found out gave
me the link to the private board where they were writing about me. The board
hadn't been started for this, but it had evolved into it. A few of them
(from one of the "ACIM" groups) had decided I was really a good person, but
had taken up with the wrong people (online) Translated, I didn't see the
enemies the way they did and they felt I should. So, they had (maybe
informally) joined in trying to get me to see them as friends, so they
could, at some point, show me a better way. They'd write on another board I
was on, and be "friendly" and then compare notes and comment on the behind
the back one, as to how they were doing. If they felt I was responding to
their reaching out to me in friendship and love, which (they felt) might get
me to see others I WAS friendly with (along with them, I'm pretty much
friendly with everyone, given half a chance) as NOT people I should be
friendly to, and treat in any kind of nice way.
   I remember how betryaed I felt reading their posts. Their "getting along
and being a friend" (to me, elsewhere) was conditional. It was using "love"
in a manipulative way. For whatever reason. Maybe they just wanted to get me
in with them, their "side" like to score points with those they felt were
the enemy.
   I didn't and don't see how this has anything to do with living what ACIM
teaches. The same as when I was put on moderation on Course_Talk  they said
"for several months" till they could see who's side I was on. When I asked
how seeing sides (and enemies and the need for defense) related to ACIM?  I
was banned from the group.
     But, back to the topic, I have experienced the idea of using "love" (or
friendship, or joining or whatever) as a tool, or weapon, or manipulation,
and even though I assume you weren't being serious here with Sidney, I would
understand if he saw it otherwise and didn't feel okay about it.
     Oh, on tht other group, I read (without them knowing I was reading on
it). I always feel dishonest about such things, like not letting them know I
know about it (and it wasn't any private group, just that they felt only a
few knew the link to it. But, with boards like that, they don't really stay
private for long). I started reposting posts from the group on the ohter
group I was on. In responses to their phoney "friendship" (with an ulterior
motive)  Well first I asked them if they were writing about me (amongst
themselves) on any onther board or group? They all assured me they WEREN"T.
LOL
   Of course, me posting what they'd been writing elsewhere did not go over
big. They didn't like it, and turned it into me spying on them, and such.
    Over the years there have been a lot of private boards and groups. Some
are even password protected. There probably still are. At some point I used
to get the link to them (like it would be passed around by some, losing
track of the point it wasn't supposed to be given out to all). In all such
cases, their private board was mainly gossip and talking about others who
(they thought) didn't know about their board.
    That's how I first got involved in the first TGP (Raj) group- which
started out being open, unmoderated,  and free for all. Till people started
asking questions and pointing out inconsistences about their finances and
"Foundation". But, there was a private board  ":for the serious study of
Raj".  I read about this on another board I used to read on (not private).
Of course the link to the "privat board to study Raj- and work had at
Awakening from the Dream") was SECRET and not everyone was givien it.  At
one point it came to my attention and I saw their board. Which was
(literally) all about what was going on, on the open board. What people were
writing, and how best to handle it, and how to get rid of the enemies (the
so called trolls).
     Thinking back at it, it's kind of funny in a way, and an education.
And, really doesn't matter, in an overall scheme of things.  Just that I
would never knowingly join with anyone who planned (or even considered) to
use "loving someone" (or what ACIM teaches) in a manipulative (ego) way.

Happy:D

Sounds like this post triggered a belief in betrayal for you.

I remember once I was going through a separation years ago and I made
a stand and refused to believe in the idea of separation. When the
situation unfolded we ended up staying in a relationship but it looked
different the only thing different is that it had lost many elements
of specialness. The relationship is still strong to this day 18 years
later.We use to argue all the time and have not had one argument
since. We even worked together on a daily basis for 2 years without
one bad word between us. I truly believe that the Holy Sprit stepped
in and Honored my request. It was in such a profound way that I knew
it was a miracle. I learned in the end that my mind is so powerful
that I can literally deny any form or idea of separation and my
projections will adjust accordingly.

[Carrie]

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by HappyD
Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what
you may.

I had that done to me once. Or some tried it. Someone who found out gave
me the link to the private board where they were writing about me.
The board hadn't been started for this, but it had evolved into it.
A few of them (from one of the "ACIM" groups) had decided I was
really a good person, but had taken up with the wrong people
(online) Translated, I didn't see the enemies the way they did and
they felt I should. So, they had (maybe informally) joined in trying
to get me to see them as friends, so they could, at some point, show
me a better way. They'd write on another board I was on, and be
"friendly" and then compare notes and comment on the behind the back
one, as to how they were doing. If they felt I was responding to
their reaching out to me in friendship and love, which (they felt)
might get me to see others I WAS friendly with (along with them, I'm
pretty much friendly with everyone, given half a chance) as NOT
people I should be friendly to, and treat in any kind of nice way.
I remember how betryaed I felt reading their posts. Their "getting
along and being a friend" (to me, elsewhere) was conditional. It was
using "love" in a manipulative way. For whatever reason. Maybe they
just wanted to get me in with them, their "side" like to score
points with those they felt were the enemy.
I didn't and don't see how this has anything to do with living what
ACIM teaches. The same as when I was put on moderation on
Course_Talk they said "for several months" till they could see who's
side I was on. When I asked how seeing sides (and enemies and the
need for defense) related to ACIM? I was banned from the group.
But, back to the topic, I have experienced the idea of using "love"
(or friendship, or joining or whatever) as a tool, or weapon, or
manipulation, and even though I assume you weren't being serious
here with Sidney, I would understand if he saw it otherwise and
didn't feel okay about it.
Oh, on tht other group, I read (without them knowing I was reading on
it). I always feel dishonest about such things, like not letting
them know I know about it (and it wasn't any private group, just
that they felt only a few knew the link to it. But, with boards like
that, they don't really stay private for long). I started reposting
posts from the group on the ohter group I was on. In responses to
their phoney "friendship" (with an ulterior motive) Well first I
asked them if they were writing about me (amongst themselves) on any
onther board or group? They all assured me they WEREN"T. LOL
Of course, me posting what they'd been writing elsewhere did not go
over big. They didn't like it, and turned it into me spying on them,
and such. Over the years there have been a lot of private boards and
groups. Some
are even password protected. There probably still are. At some point
I used to get the link to them (like it would be passed around by
some, losing track of the point it wasn't supposed to be given out
to all). In all such cases, their private board was mainly gossip
and talking about others who (they thought) didn't know about their
board.
That's how I first got involved in the first TGP (Raj) group- which
started out being open, unmoderated, and free for all. Till people
started asking questions and pointing out inconsistences about their
finances and "Foundation". But, there was a private board ":for the
serious study of Raj". I read about this on another board I used to
read on (not private). Of course the link to the "privat board to
study Raj- and work had at Awakening from the Dream") was SECRET and
not everyone was givien it. At one point it came to my attention and
I saw their board. Which was (literally) all about what was going
on, on the open board. What people were writing, and how best to
handle it, and how to get rid of the enemies (the so called trolls).
Thinking back at it, it's kind of funny in a way, and an education.
And, really doesn't matter, in an overall scheme of things. Just
that I would never knowingly join with anyone who planned (or even
considered) to use "loving someone" (or what ACIM teaches) in a
manipulative (ego) way.

Happy:D
Sounds like this post triggered a belief in betrayal for you.
I remember once I was going through a separation years ago and I made
a stand and refused to believe in the idea of separation. When the
situation unfolded we ended up staying in a relationship but it looked
different the only thing different is that it had lost many elements
of specialness. The relationship is still strong to this day 18 years
later.We use to argue all the time and have not had one argument
since. We even worked together on a daily basis for 2 years without
one bad word between us. I truly believe that the Holy Sprit stepped
in and Honored my request. It was in such a profound way that I knew
it was a miracle. I learned in the end that my mind is so powerful
that I can literally deny any form or idea of separation and my
projections will adjust accordingly.

I wouldn't say betrayal because I hadn't really believed, or felt their
attemps at friendship were sincere, even before I found out.
Maybe more like "you get what you believe" (LOL)
I just don't like the idea of using love, friendship, or anything for
that matter, as a means of manipulation. Though I don't think you were
serious about using love as a trap for Sidney LOL

[HappyD]

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by HappyD
Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what
you may.

I had that done to me once. Or some tried it. Someone who found out gave
me the link to the private board where they were writing about me.
The board hadn't been started for this, but it had evolved into it.
A few of them (from one of the "ACIM" groups) had decided I was
really a good person, but had taken up with the wrong people
(online) Translated, I didn't see the enemies the way they did and
they felt I should. So, they had (maybe informally) joined in trying
to get me to see them as friends, so they could, at some point, show
me a better way. They'd write on another board I was on, and be
"friendly" and then compare notes and comment on the behind the back
one, as to how they were doing. If they felt I was responding to
their reaching out to me in friendship and love, which (they felt)
might get me to see others I WAS friendly with (along with them, I'm
pretty much friendly with everyone, given half a chance) as NOT
people I should be friendly to, and treat in any kind of nice way.
I remember how betryaed I felt reading their posts. Their "getting
along and being a friend" (to me, elsewhere) was conditional. It was
using "love" in a manipulative way. For whatever reason. Maybe they
just wanted to get me in with them, their "side" like to score
points with those they felt were the enemy.
I didn't and don't see how this has anything to do with living what
ACIM teaches. The same as when I was put on moderation on
Course_Talk they said "for several months" till they could see who's
side I was on. When I asked how seeing sides (and enemies and the
need for defense) related to ACIM? I was banned from the group.
But, back to the topic, I have experienced the idea of using "love"
(or friendship, or joining or whatever) as a tool, or weapon, or
manipulation, and even though I assume you weren't being serious
here with Sidney, I would understand if he saw it otherwise and
didn't feel okay about it.
Oh, on tht other group, I read (without them knowing I was reading on
it). I always feel dishonest about such things, like not letting
them know I know about it (and it wasn't any private group, just
that they felt only a few knew the link to it. But, with boards like
that, they don't really stay private for long). I started reposting
posts from the group on the ohter group I was on. In responses to
their phoney "friendship" (with an ulterior motive) Well first I
asked them if they were writing about me (amongst themselves) on any
onther board or group? They all assured me they WEREN"T. LOL
Of course, me posting what they'd been writing elsewhere did not go
over big. They didn't like it, and turned it into me spying on them,
and such. Over the years there have been a lot of private boards and
groups. Some
are even password protected. There probably still are. At some point
I used to get the link to them (like it would be passed around by
some, losing track of the point it wasn't supposed to be given out
to all). In all such cases, their private board was mainly gossip
and talking about others who (they thought) didn't know about their
board.
That's how I first got involved in the first TGP (Raj) group- which
started out being open, unmoderated, and free for all. Till people
started asking questions and pointing out inconsistences about their
finances and "Foundation". But, there was a private board ":for the
serious study of Raj". I read about this on another board I used to
read on (not private). Of course the link to the "privat board to
study Raj- and work had at Awakening from the Dream") was SECRET and
not everyone was givien it. At one point it came to my attention and
I saw their board. Which was (literally) all about what was going
on, on the open board. What people were writing, and how best to
handle it, and how to get rid of the enemies (the so called trolls).
Thinking back at it, it's kind of funny in a way, and an education.
And, really doesn't matter, in an overall scheme of things. Just
that I would never knowingly join with anyone who planned (or even
considered) to use "loving someone" (or what ACIM teaches) in a
manipulative (ego) way.

Happy:D
Sounds like this post triggered a belief in betrayal for you.
I remember once I was going through a separation years ago and I made
a stand and refused to believe in the idea of separation. When the
situation unfolded we ended up staying in a relationship but it looked
different the only thing different is that it had lost many elements
of specialness. The relationship is still strong to this day 18 years
later.We use to argue all the time and have not had one argument
since. We even worked together on a daily basis for 2 years without
one bad word between us.  I truly believe that the Holy Sprit stepped
in and Honored my request. It was in such a profound way that I knew
it was a miracle. I learned in the end that my mind is so powerful
that I can literally deny any form or idea of separation and my
projections will adjust accordingly.

    I wouldn't say betrayal because I hadn't really believed, or felt their
attemps at friendship were sincere, even before I found out.
    Maybe more like "you get what you believe" (LOL)
    I just don't like the idea of using love, friendship, or anything for
that matter, as a means of manipulation. Though I don't think you were
serious about using love as a trap for Sidney LOl

It still sounds like a poor assessment. It is impossible to do the
above described since it is only an interpretation based on a false
foundation.

[Carrie]

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by HappyD
Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what
you may.

I had that done to me once. Or some tried it. Someone who found out gave
me the link to the private board where they were writing about me.
The board hadn't been started for this, but it had evolved into it.
A few of them (from one of the "ACIM" groups) had decided I was
really a good person, but had taken up with the wrong people
(online) Translated, I didn't see the enemies the way they did and
they felt I should. So, they had (maybe informally) joined in
trying to get me to see them as friends, so they could, at some
point, show me a better way. They'd write on another board I was
on, and be "friendly" and then compare notes and comment on the
behind the back one, as to how they were doing. If they felt I was
responding to their reaching out to me in friendship and love,
which (they felt) might get me to see others I WAS friendly with
(along with them, I'm pretty much friendly with everyone, given
half a chance) as NOT people I should be friendly to, and treat in
any kind of nice way.
I remember how betryaed I felt reading their posts. Their "getting
along and being a friend" (to me, elsewhere) was conditional. It
was using "love" in a manipulative way. For whatever reason. Maybe
they just wanted to get me in with them, their "side" like to score
points with those they felt were the enemy.
I didn't and don't see how this has anything to do with living what
ACIM teaches. The same as when I was put on moderation on
Course_Talk they said "for several months" till they could see
who's side I was on. When I asked how seeing sides (and enemies
and the need for defense) related to ACIM? I was banned from the
group.
But, back to the topic, I have experienced the idea of using "love"
(or friendship, or joining or whatever) as a tool, or weapon, or
manipulation, and even though I assume you weren't being serious
here with Sidney, I would understand if he saw it otherwise and
didn't feel okay about it.
Oh, on tht other group, I read (without them knowing I was reading
on it). I always feel dishonest about such things, like not letting
them know I know about it (and it wasn't any private group, just
that they felt only a few knew the link to it. But, with boards
like that, they don't really stay private for long). I started
reposting posts from the group on the ohter group I was on. In
responses to their phoney "friendship" (with an ulterior motive)
Well first I asked them if they were writing about me (amongst
themselves) on any onther board or group? They all assured me they
WEREN"T. LOL
Of course, me posting what they'd been writing elsewhere did not go
over big. They didn't like it, and turned it into me spying on
them, and such. Over the years there have been a lot of private
boards and groups. Some
are even password protected. There probably still are. At some
point I used to get the link to them (like it would be passed
around by some, losing track of the point it wasn't supposed to be
given out to all). In all such cases, their private board was
mainly gossip and talking about others who (they thought) didn't
know about their board.
That's how I first got involved in the first TGP (Raj) group- which
started out being open, unmoderated, and free for all. Till people
started asking questions and pointing out inconsistences about
their finances and "Foundation". But, there was a private board
":for the serious study of Raj". I read about this on another
board I used to read on (not private). Of course the link to the
"privat board to study Raj- and work had at Awakening from the
Dream") was SECRET and not everyone was givien it. At one point it
came to my attention and I saw their board. Which was (literally)
all about what was going on, on the open board. What people were
writing, and how best to handle it, and how to get rid of the
enemies (the so called trolls). Thinking back at it, it's kind of
funny in a way, and an education. And, really doesn't matter, in
an overall scheme of things. Just that I would never knowingly
join with anyone who planned (or even considered) to use "loving
someone" (or what ACIM teaches) in a manipulative (ego) way.

Happy:D
Sounds like this post triggered a belief in betrayal for you.
I remember once I was going through a separation years ago and I
made a stand and refused to believe in the idea of separation. When
the situation unfolded we ended up staying in a relationship but it
looked different the only thing different is that it had lost many
elements of specialness. The relationship is still strong to this
day 18 years later.We use to argue all the time and have not had
one argument since. We even worked together on a daily basis for 2
years without one bad word between us. I truly believe that the
Holy Sprit stepped in and Honored my request. It was in such a
profound way that I knew it was a miracle. I learned in the end
that my mind is so powerful that I can literally deny any form or
idea of separation and my projections will adjust accordingly.

I wouldn't say betrayal because I hadn't really believed, or felt
their attemps at friendship were sincere, even before I found out.
Maybe more like "you get what you believe" (LOL)
I just don't like the idea of using love, friendship, or anything for
that matter, as a means of manipulation. Though I don't think you
were serious about using love as a trap for Sidney LOl

It still sounds like a poor assessment. It is impossible to do the
above described since it is only an interpretation based on a false
foundation.

Well, it would also be impossible to judge it and decide "what" (if
anything) it is, in any way.
I think, since we are choosing to live in a world of form that seems
real and like things really happen in it (and we interpret this and
sometimes put it into words) we kind of have to go along with like it is
real. All the time knowing it's not ALL there is.
Wayne Dyer says "I am a spiritual being having a physical experience". If
we don't want the physical experience, than why bother with it.

[HappyD]

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Post by HappyD

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Post by HappyD
Sidney
Carrie and I have decided to call upon to Holy Sprit to heal our
perceptions of you. ACIM NG will now become love trap, fight what
you may.

I had that done to me once. Or some tried it. Someone who found out gave
me the link to the private board where they were writing about me.
The board hadn't been started for this, but it had evolved into it.
A few of them (from one of the "ACIM" groups) had decided I was
really a good person, but had taken up with the wrong people
(online) Translated, I didn't see the enemies the way they did and
they felt I should. So, they had (maybe informally) joined in
trying to get me to see them as friends, so they could, at some
point, show me a better way. They'd write on another board I was
on, and be "friendly" and then compare notes and comment on the
behind the back one, as to how they were doing. If they felt I was
responding to their reaching out to me in friendship and love,
which (they felt) might get me to see others I WAS friendly with
(along with them, I'm pretty much friendly with everyone, given
half a chance) as NOT people I should be friendly to, and treat in
any kind of nice way.
I remember how betryaed I felt reading their posts. Their "getting
along and being a friend" (to me, elsewhere) was conditional. It
was using "love" in a manipulative way. For whatever reason. Maybe
they just wanted to get me in with them, their "side" like to score
points with those they felt were the enemy.
I didn't and don't see how this has anything to do with living what
ACIM teaches. The same as when I was put on moderation on
Course_Talk they said "for several months" till they could see
who's side I was on. When I asked how seeing sides (and enemies
and the need for defense) related to ACIM? I was banned from the
group.
But, back to the topic, I have experienced the idea of using "love"
(or friendship, or joining or whatever) as a tool, or weapon, or
manipulation, and even though I assume you weren't being serious
here with Sidney, I would understand if he saw it otherwise and
didn't feel okay about it.
Oh, on tht other group, I read (without them knowing I was reading
on it). I always feel dishonest about such things, like not letting
them know I know about it (and it wasn't any private group, just
that they felt only a few knew the link to it. But, with boards
like that, they don't really stay private for long). I started
reposting posts from the group on the ohter group I was on. In
responses to their phoney "friendship" (with an ulterior motive)
Well first I asked them if they were writing about me (amongst
themselves) on any onther board or group? They all assured me they
WEREN"T. LOL
Of course, me posting what they'd been writing elsewhere did not go
over big. They didn't like it, and turned it into me spying on
them, and such. Over the years there have been a lot of private
boards and groups. Some
are even password protected. There probably still are. At some
point I used to get the link to them (like it would be passed
around by some, losing track of the point it wasn't supposed to be
given out to all). In all such cases, their private board was
mainly gossip and talking about others who (they thought) didn't
know about their board.
That's how I first got involved in the first TGP (Raj) group- which
started out being open, unmoderated, and free for all. Till people
started asking questions and pointing out inconsistences about
their finances and "Foundation". But, there was a private board
":for the serious study of Raj". I read about this on another
board I used to read on (not private). Of course the link to the
"privat board to study Raj- and work had at Awakening from the
Dream") was SECRET and not everyone was givien it. At one point it
came to my attention and I saw their board. Which was (literally)
all about what was going on, on the open board. What people were
writing, and how best to handle it, and how to get rid of the
enemies (the so called trolls). Thinking back at it, it's kind of
funny in a way, and an education. And, really doesn't matter, in
an overall scheme of things. Just that I would never knowingly
join with anyone who planned (or even considered) to use "loving
someone" (or what ACIM teaches) in a manipulative (ego) way.

Happy:D
Sounds like this post triggered a belief in betrayal for you.
I remember once I was going through a separation years ago and I
made a stand and refused to believe in the idea of separation. When
the situation unfolded we ended up staying in a relationship but it
looked different the only thing different is that it had lost many
elements of specialness. The relationship is still strong to this
day 18 years later.We use to argue all the time and have not had
one argument since. We even worked together on a daily basis for 2
years without one bad word between us. I truly believe that the
Holy Sprit stepped in and Honored my request. It was in such a
profound way that I knew it was a miracle. I learned in the end
that my mind is so powerful that I can literally deny any form or
idea of separation and my projections will adjust accordingly.

I wouldn't say betrayal because I hadn't really believed, or felt
their attemps at friendship were sincere, even before I found out.
Maybe more like "you get what you believe" (LOL)
I just don't like the idea of using love, friendship, or anything for
that matter, as a means of manipulation. Though I don't think you
were serious about using love as a trap for Sidney LOl

It still sounds like a poor assessment. It is impossible to do the
above described since it is only an interpretation based on a false
foundation.

     Well, it would also be impossible to judge it and decide "what" (if
anything) it is, in any way.
      I think, since we are choosing to live in a world of form that seems
real and like things really happen in it (and we interpret this and
sometimes put it into words) we kind of have to go along with like it is
real. All the time knowing it's not ALL there is.
   Wayne Dyer says "I am a spiritual being having a physical experience". If
we don't want the physical experience, than why bother with it.

I guess part of that experience is learning self honesty.