Discussion:
The Gifts of ACIM's Urtext - Documenting the Scribal Process (Part 2)
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Lee Flynn
2011-06-07 00:46:18 UTC
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Hi all,

This series of excerpts from the Urtext of ACIM
will feature those portions that specifically reference
the thoughts, reactions and relationships between and
among the three who produced ACIM: the Course's scribe,
her dedicated assistant, and the Author who dictated the
material.

Note:
"HS" refers to Helen Schucman, whose shorthand notes
document the rapid inner dictation that produced the
unedited manuscript (Urtext) of ACIM. The early portion of
her notes also capture her own thoughts and questions, as
well as the Voice's answers, in bracketed asides that reveal
a secondary layer of ongoing personal instruction
and encouragement for the scribes, even as the Voice
pressed on with dictation of the Course material.

"B." refers to Bill Thetford, who regularly typed out Helen's
shorthand notes as she read them aloud, and whose later
role included editing the resultant Urtext manuscript into
the edition of the Course originally prepared for publication.

The Urtext of ACIM was unavailable publicly for the first
25 years of the Course's publication, and though never
intended for public scrutiny, its recent discovery provides
this rich, embedded, 'second layer' of material that essentially
documents, in intimate detail, the entire scribal process.

~ Lee

** Paragraphs that include '2nd layer' material will usually
include an asterisk before the paragraph number.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[ "HS" is Helen Schucman. "B." is Bill Thetford ]

10. (Plan ahead is good advice in this world, where you should
and must control & direct where you have accepted
responsibility. But the Universal Plan is in more appropriate
hands. You will know all you need to know. Make NO attempts to
plan ahead in this respect.)

11. Miracles are habits, and should be involuntary.

12. They should not be under conscious control. (Otherwise they
may become undemocratic. Consciously selected miracles are
usually dangerous misguided and may destroy this will make the
talent useless.)

13. 6. Miracles are natural. When they do NOT occur something
has gone wrong.

14. 7. Miracles are everyone's right, but purification is
necessary first.

15. 8. Miracles are a form of healing. They supply a lack, and
are performed by those who have more for those who have less.

16. 9. Miracles are a kind of exchange. Like all expressions of
love, which are ALWAYS miraculous in the true sense, the
exchange reverses the physical laws.

17. 10. A miracle is a reversal of the physical order because
it brings more love to the giver and the receiver.

18. (A miracle is misunderstood when it is regarded as a
spectacle.)

19. 11. The use of miracles as a spectacle to induce belief is
wrong. They are really used for and by believers. (HS has some
fear about 11) and doubt about 9) and 10). Probably doubt by
fear of 11).

*20. (When you say "If you want me to I will" please add "and if
you DON'T want me to I won't." This is the RIGHT use of
inhibition. There has to be SOME control over learning for
channelizing purposes. Remember retroactive inhibition which
should be easy enough for you.

21. Sometimes the new learning is the more important, and has
to inhibit the old. It's a form of correction.)

22. Prayer is the medium of miracles. Prayer is the natural
communication of the Created with the Creator.

23. Through prayer, love is received, and through miracles love
is expressed.

24. 12. Miracles are thought-creations. Thought can create
lower-order or higher-order realities. This is the basic
distinction between intellectualization and thinking. One
creates the physical, and the other the spiritual, and we
believe in what we create.

25. 13. A miracle is a beginning and an end(ing). It thus
abolishes time. It is always an affirmation of re-birth, which
seems to go back, but really goes forward. It undoes the past
in the present, and thus releases the future.

26. 14. Miracles attest to truth. They are convincing because
they arise from conviction. Without conviction, they
deteriorate into magic, which is mindless, and therefore
destructive, or rather, the uncreative use of Mind.

*27. 15. Each day should be devoted to miracles. (God created
time so that man could use it creatively, and convince himself
of his own ability to create. Time is a teaching device,
and a means to an end. It will cease when it is no longer
useful for facilitating learning.)

*28. SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: Notes on this course have to be taken
only under good learning conditions. The same goes for review
periods. I will tell you when, but REMEMBER TO ASK.)

29. 16. Miracles are teaching devices for demonstrating that it
is more blessed to give than to receive. They simultaneously
increase the reserve strength of the giver, and supply the lack
of strength in the receiver. BE VERY CAREFUL in interpreting
this.

*30. INSTRUCTIONS: The purpose of this course is integration.
I told you that you will not be able to use it right until you
have taken it. As long as your identification vacillates, (and
B's is weak) you cannot accept the gift that belongs to you.
You are still vacillating between recognizing the gift and
throwing it away. B. regards himself as too weak to accept it.
You do not yet know its healing power. After you have passed
the course, you will accept it and keep it and use it. That is
the final exam, which you will have no trouble in passing.
Midterm marks are not entered on the permanent record.

31. 17. Miracles are the absence of the body. They are sudden
shifts into invisibility, away from lower order reality. That
is why they heal.

32. 18. A miracle is a service. It is the maximal service that
one soul can render another. It is a way of loving your
neighbor as yourself. The doer recognizes his own and his
neighbor's inestimable value simultaneously.

*33. (This is why no areas of hatred can be retained. If you
retain them, your own value is no longer inestimable because,
you are evaluating it as X or infinity minus that amount. This
is meaningless mathematically, which uses the term
"inestimable" only in the very literal sense. Pun intended
especially for B, (who originally did not get it.) Intended as
a special sign of love.)

34. 19. Miracles rest on the law and order of eternity, not of
time. "

- ACIM Urtext

~ Lee
Sidney Lambe
2011-06-07 03:14:05 UTC
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Post by Lee Flynn
Hi all,
This series of excerpts from the Urtext of ACIM
will feature those portions that specifically reference
the thoughts, reactions and relationships between and
among the three who produced ACIM: the Course's scribe,
her dedicated assistant, and the Author who dictated the
material.
I've read the urtext three times. What it is is Fundamental
Christianity in a clumsy New-Age disguise. The abundant messages
in the subtext ('subliminal') overwhelm the deceptive foretext.

I do not believe Jesus had any more to do with ACIM than he
did with the Bible, from whence ACIM is derived, contrary to
the claims of the people who wrote it.

What you have here is a bunch of Pollyanna crapola disguising
the poisonous Christian false beliefs.

These people believe that being human is Evil, degraded, and
sinful. Even though there is no Evil or sin and the body is
the soul in chemical clothes.

ACIM offers salvation when there is nothing to be saved from
except religiuos fanatics llike them aand the Darwinists.

The Nature of Personal Reality by Jane Roberts is far superior.

[delete]
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All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
Carrie
2011-06-07 14:09:54 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Lee Flynn
Hi all,
This series of excerpts from the Urtext of ACIM
will feature those portions that specifically reference
the thoughts, reactions and relationships between and
among the three who produced ACIM: the Course's scribe,
her dedicated assistant, and the Author who dictated the
material.
I've read the urtext three times. What it is is Fundamental
Christianity in a clumsy New-Age disguise. The abundant messages
in the subtext ('subliminal') overwhelm the deceptive foretext.
The Urtext is the original manuscript. It was given personally to Helen,
who shared it with Bill (who typed it) and not meant (as is) for mass
distribution, like the edited and published version was. It was gotten and
distributed- the internet spammed with it, during the copyright trial, in an
effort to nullify the copyright on the edited and published version. Some
do seem to like this rough copy of it, but it was edited several times after
that. Maybe you should try reading the version of it that was meant to be
read by the public and see what you think.
Post by Sidney Lambe
I do not believe Jesus had any more to do with ACIM than he
did with the Bible, from whence ACIM is derived, contrary to
the claims of the people who wrote it.
Well, that is your choice, what you believe. Who is saying you can't
believe that way? Where does it say in ACIM it's written by Jesus? At the
copyright trial, it was first established it WASN'T written by Jesus.
Because no one not in a body can hold a copyright.
Post by Sidney Lambe
What you have here is a bunch of Pollyanna crapola disguising
the poisonous Christian false beliefs.
This is your slant on it, because ACIM is the total opposite of
Christianity. In fact most Christians are afraid of it,and say it's
dangerous.
Post by Sidney Lambe
These people believe that being human is Evil, degraded, and
sinful. Even though there is no Evil or sin and the body is
the soul in chemical clothes.
This isn't true. It just says "there is somethning MORE than being
physical in form. If you feel being in a body is evil, and this is what you
see ACIM saying about it, it's coming from your thoughts about it.
Post by Sidney Lambe
ACIM offers salvation when there is nothing to be saved from
except religiuos fanatics llike them aand the Darwinists.
Terms in ACIM are used differently and there are places that have
clarification of this, and books have been written about it. Salvation is
more like "remembering" (the Truth) That we are All One and One with God.
The idea we believe we are in separate bodies and sometimes enemies with
each other, struggling to survive (disconnected from Source) is illusion.
Where does it say this is evil or bad? It's more like knowing you are "in
the world but not of it".
There is a lesson:
LESSON 93.



Light and joy and peace abide in me.

W-93.1. You think you are the home of evil, darkness and sin. 2
You think if anyone could see the truth about you he would be repelled,
recoiling from you as if from a poisonous snake. 3 You think if what is true
about you were revealed to you, you would be struck with horror so intense
that you would rush to death by your own hand, living on after seeing this
being impossible.

W-93.2. These are beliefs so firmly fixed that it is difficult to
help you see that they are based on nothing. 2 That you have made mistakes
is obvious. 3 That you have sought salvation in strange ways; have been
deceived, deceiving and afraid of foolish fantasies and savage dreams; and
have bowed down to idols made of dust,-all this is true by what you now
believe.

W-93.3. Today we question this, not from the point of view of what
you think, but from a very different reference point, from which such idle
thoughts are meaningless. 2 These thoughts are not according to God's Will.
3 These weird beliefs He does not share with you. 4 This is enough to prove
that they are wrong, but you do not perceive that this is so.

W-93.4. Why would you not be overjoyed to be assured that all the
evil that you think you did was never done, that all your sins are nothing,
that you are as pure and holy as you were created, and that light and joy
and peace abide in you? 2 Your image of yourself cannot withstand the Will
of God. 3 You think that this is death, but it is life. 4 You think you are
destroyed, but you are saved.

W-93.5. The self you made is not the Son of God. 2 Therefore, this
self does not exist at all. 3 And anything it seems to do and think means
nothing. 4 It is neither bad nor good. 5 It is unreal, and nothing more than
that. 6 It does not battle with the Son of God. 7 It does not hurt him, nor
attack his peace. 8 It has not changed creation, nor reduced

Everytime I take the time to read your posts here (sometimes I skip
them, thinking they are just the same stuff over and over) I'm glad I did,
because you get me to thinking about what I DO believe, which not the way
you make ACIM sound. Maybe I don't believe what ACIM says (if it says what
you think it does) or maybe I just see it in a different way. Or take what I
want from it, in a different way.

All we really do is read a book from our own personal perception, seeing
what we want to see (find) in it, and accepting what makes sense or seems
right to us.

I think most who post here (or read here if anyone still does) either
has you blocked or skips over what you write. But, everyone is a
teacher/student to and for each other and no one comes into our lives by
accident. So blocking/shunning someone who seems to have different opinions,
we don't agree with, doesn't seem like ACIM (which says we are all one and
to find ways of joining, and putting "the Peace of God" first, and to
"exempt no one from your love") to me.
But, that's just how I am and how they are choosing to be. In Truth all
this ego stuff doesn't really matter.
Post by Sidney Lambe
The Nature of Personal Reality by Jane Roberts is far superior.
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Sidney Lambe
2011-06-07 15:36:31 UTC
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On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie <***@charter.net> wrote:
She writes here 137 lines in response to 30.

It takes a lot of lies to over-ride people's common sense...
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Lee Flynn
Hi all,
This series of excerpts from the Urtext of ACIM will feature
those portions that specifically reference the thoughts,
reactions and relationships between and among the three who
produced ACIM: the Course's scribe, her dedicated assistant,
and the Author who dictated the material.
I've read the urtext three times. What it is is Fundamental
Christianity in a clumsy New-Age disguise. The abundant
messages in the subtext ('subliminal') overwhelm the deceptive
foretext.
The Urtext is the original manuscript. It was given
personally to Helen, who shared it with Bill (who typed it)
No. Thse two fanatic Fundamentalist Christians made it up.
Post by Carrie
and not meant (as is) for mass distribution, like the edited
and published version was.
I'm sure those two con artists (or deluded headcases) had to
polish their original work considerably.

If it actually was channeled material from God/Jesus, then
it wouldn't have needed any such thing.

The Seth Material needed slmost no editing at all. 32+ volurmes.
All his books perfectly clear and readable the first time.
ACIM isn't clear after a dozen edits...

This is because it was actually channeled.

"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts,
is a wonderful book. Makes ACIM look like the superstitious
garbage it mostly is.

[delete]
--
Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
Carrie
2011-06-07 15:37:20 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
She writes here 137 lines in response to 30.
It takes a lot of lies to over-ride people's common sense...
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Lee Flynn
Hi all,
This series of excerpts from the Urtext of ACIM will feature
those portions that specifically reference the thoughts,
reactions and relationships between and among the three who
produced ACIM: the Course's scribe, her dedicated assistant,
and the Author who dictated the material.
I've read the urtext three times. What it is is Fundamental
Christianity in a clumsy New-Age disguise. The abundant
messages in the subtext ('subliminal') overwhelm the deceptive
foretext.
The Urtext is the original manuscript. It was given
personally to Helen, who shared it with Bill (who typed it)
No. Thse two fanatic Fundamentalist Christians made it up.
Post by Carrie
and not meant (as is) for mass distribution, like the edited
and published version was.
I'm sure those two con artists (or deluded headcases) had to
polish their original work considerably.
If it actually was channeled material from God/Jesus, then
it wouldn't have needed any such thing.
The Seth Material needed slmost no editing at all. 32+ volurmes.
All his books perfectly clear and readable the first time.
ACIM isn't clear after a dozen edits...
This is because it was actually channeled.
"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts,
is a wonderful book. Makes ACIM look like the superstitious
garbage it mostly is.
And, how you are here is an example of what Seth teaches?
Post by Sidney Lambe
[delete]
--
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Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
Sidney Lambe
2011-06-07 16:56:29 UTC
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Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
She writes here 137 lines in response to 30.
It takes a lot of lies to over-ride people's common sense...
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Lee Flynn
Hi all,
This series of excerpts from the Urtext of ACIM will feature
those portions that specifically reference the thoughts,
reactions and relationships between and among the three who
produced ACIM: the Course's scribe, her dedicated assistant,
and the Author who dictated the material.
I've read the urtext three times. What it is is Fundamental
Christianity in a clumsy New-Age disguise. The abundant
messages in the subtext ('subliminal') overwhelm the deceptive
foretext.
The Urtext is the original manuscript. It was given
personally to Helen, who shared it with Bill (who typed it)
No. Thse two fanatic Fundamentalist Christians made it up.
Post by Carrie
and not meant (as is) for mass distribution, like the edited
and published version was.
I'm sure those two con artists (or deluded headcases) had to
polish their original work considerably.
If it actually was channeled material from God/Jesus, then
it wouldn't have needed any such thing.
The Seth Material needed slmost no editing at all. 32+ volurmes.
All his books perfectly clear and readable the first time.
ACIM isn't clear after a dozen edits...
This is because it was actually channeled.
"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts,
is a wonderful book. Makes ACIM look like the superstitious
garbage it mostly is.
And, how you are here is an example of what Seth teaches?
Unlike ACIM, which is the work of imperialistic Christians
who want to tell everyone how to think and live, the Seth Material
teaches us that our lives belong to us, that we aer our own
Authority.

Seth does not pretend to speak for somme fictious false god
that isn't anything but a projection of what its creator's and
sustainer's think they wish they were.

He suggests that we repeat this to ourselves often:

My life is mine and I form it.

It amuses me to expose ACIM for the disguised Funndamentalist
Christianity that it is.

If you don't like it, you can eat s__t.

And I don't give a fuck what Seth thinks about it. I really doubt
that Seth has any idea what I'm doing or could care less. That's
good. I want him to be working at teaching people and other
beings and not behaving like your silly false god.

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Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
Carrie
2011-06-07 17:00:18 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
She writes here 137 lines in response to 30.
It takes a lot of lies to over-ride people's common sense...
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Lee Flynn
Hi all,
This series of excerpts from the Urtext of ACIM will feature
those portions that specifically reference the thoughts,
reactions and relationships between and among the three who
produced ACIM: the Course's scribe, her dedicated assistant,
and the Author who dictated the material.
I've read the urtext three times. What it is is Fundamental
Christianity in a clumsy New-Age disguise. The abundant
messages in the subtext ('subliminal') overwhelm the deceptive
foretext.
The Urtext is the original manuscript. It was given
personally to Helen, who shared it with Bill (who typed it)
No. Thse two fanatic Fundamentalist Christians made it up.
Post by Carrie
and not meant (as is) for mass distribution, like the edited
and published version was.
I'm sure those two con artists (or deluded headcases) had to
polish their original work considerably.
If it actually was channeled material from God/Jesus, then
it wouldn't have needed any such thing.
The Seth Material needed slmost no editing at all. 32+ volurmes.
All his books perfectly clear and readable the first time.
ACIM isn't clear after a dozen edits...
This is because it was actually channeled.
"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts,
is a wonderful book. Makes ACIM look like the superstitious
garbage it mostly is.
And, how you are here is an example of what Seth teaches?
Unlike ACIM, which is the work of imperialistic Christians
who want to tell everyone how to think and live, the Seth Material
teaches us that our lives belong to us, that we aer our own
Authority.
Seth does not pretend to speak for somme fictious false god
that isn't anything but a projection of what its creator's and
sustainer's think they wish they were.
My life is mine and I form it.
Wouldn't this mean you are forming ACIM as fundamentalist Christianity you
believe it is?
Post by Sidney Lambe
It amuses me to expose ACIM for the disguised Funndamentalist
Christianity that it is.
If you don't like it, you can eat s__t.
Who said I didn't like it. I don't reallly care one way or the other,
just keep looking for possible discussions.And you bascially say the same
thing(s) over and over no matter what.
Post by Sidney Lambe
And I don't give a fuck what Seth thinks about it. I really doubt
that Seth has any idea what I'm doing or could care less. That's
good. I want him to be working at teaching people and other
beings and not behaving like your silly false god.
Well, that makes sense. I create my own reality and can't create in the
reality of another.
And it's your time and life. If you want to waste it preaching to people
who consider you a troll and either have you blocked, don't care what you
say, think you're crazy, or fight with over it, that's your choice, too.
Whatever you feel good about.
Post by Sidney Lambe
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All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
Sidney Lambe
2011-06-07 18:27:51 UTC
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On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie
[delete]
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts,
is a wonderful book. Makes ACIM look like the superstitious
garbage it mostly is.
And, how you are here is an example of what Seth teaches?
Unlike ACIM, which is the work of imperialistic Christians who
want to tell everyone how to think and live, the Seth Material
teaches us that our lives belong to us, that we aer our own
Authority.
Seth does not pretend to speak for somme fictious false god
that isn't anything but a projection of what its creator's and
sustainer's think they wish they were.
My life is mine and I form it.
Wouldn't this mean you are forming ACIM as fundamentalist
Christianity you believe it is?
NO. I have formed a reality in which I can tell basic Truth from
basic falsehood.

And most of ACIM is falsehood, being just second-hand Christian
superstitious wearing a New-Age disguise.`

Like the idea that we need "salvation". Wrong. There is nothing
to be saved from.

ACIM, like its parent religion, Christianity, has to create
illusory dangers that it can then supposedly save us from
because it doesn't have anything positive to offer.

[delete]
--
Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
Carrie
2011-06-07 19:41:30 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie
[delete]
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts,
is a wonderful book. Makes ACIM look like the superstitious
garbage it mostly is.
And, how you are here is an example of what Seth teaches?
Unlike ACIM, which is the work of imperialistic Christians who
want to tell everyone how to think and live, the Seth Material
teaches us that our lives belong to us, that we aer our own
Authority.
Seth does not pretend to speak for somme fictious false god
that isn't anything but a projection of what its creator's and
sustainer's think they wish they were.
My life is mine and I form it.
Wouldn't this mean you are forming ACIM as fundamentalist
Christianity you believe it is?
NO. I have formed a reality in which I can tell basic Truth from
basic falsehood.
And most of ACIM is falsehood, being just second-hand Christian
superstitious wearing a New-Age disguise.`
Like the idea that we need "salvation". Wrong. There is nothing
to be saved from.
ACIM, like its parent religion, Christianity, has to create
illusory dangers that it can then supposedly save us from
because it doesn't have anything positive to offer.
This is the reality you have formed and what you have decided is "truth"
(for everyone).
But, it's you life use it for whatever you want (of course)
Post by Sidney Lambe
[delete]
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Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
Carrie
2011-06-07 19:48:16 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie
[delete]
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts,
is a wonderful book. Makes ACIM look like the superstitious
garbage it mostly is.
And, how you are here is an example of what Seth teaches?
Unlike ACIM, which is the work of imperialistic Christians who
want to tell everyone how to think and live, the Seth Material
teaches us that our lives belong to us, that we aer our own
Authority.
Seth does not pretend to speak for somme fictious false god
that isn't anything but a projection of what its creator's and
sustainer's think they wish they were.
My life is mine and I form it.
Wouldn't this mean you are forming ACIM as fundamentalist
Christianity you believe it is?
NO. I have formed a reality in which I can tell basic Truth from
basic falsehood.
And most of ACIM is falsehood, being just second-hand Christian
superstitious wearing a New-Age disguise.`
Like the idea that we need "salvation". Wrong. There is nothing
to be saved from.
ACIM, like its parent religion, Christianity, has to create
illusory dangers that it can then supposedly save us from
because it doesn't have anything positive to offer.
If you reallly want a purpose in life, to save people from Jesus, you
should try telling the follower of Raj (who claims to be Jesus- author of
ACIM, and posts on their group asking for money to be sent to buy them
another luxurious home, pay the taxes on it, expenses, Paul Tuttle's salary,
as the head of the foundation, etc) the truth.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=1
This one seems simple, but trust me, it isn't. I gave up on it long
ago. It's their money, and if they want to believe what they get fed (in the
name of ACIM) and support it, it's their choice.
"Raj" says stuff that doesn't make sense, just ramples on about
whatever, and they think it's SO wonderful and it's helping them to "wake
up". The goal seems to be "awaken from the dream" and Raj has come to help
them with this. As you say about "the world" and living in it, and I agree
with, I don't think there is anything wrong, or evil about it. We are
spiritual beings, choosing to live in form, and experience it and grow and
learn from it. What are we experiencing, growing and learning? Probably the
best word that sums it up (I think) is joy. Live for the joy of it. If the
point of it is to "awaken from the dream", and this is hard work, and
requires a lot of judging and sacrificing (and banning people from the group
who ask questions or speak up) there doesn't seem to be any point.
It's kind of interesting to observe though.
Post by Sidney Lambe
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All will be well. All manner of things will be well.
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