Reality

Post by Kaydon
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.

To me the interesting member of that einsteinian trinity is the c. Where
does it come from? Where if anywhere does it go? Why does it persist as
the quotient between the light and the world?

Kaydon

2011-05-05 18:06:57 UTC

Post by Robert Scott Martin

Post by Kaydon
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.

To me the interesting member of that einsteinian trinity is the c.
Where does it come from? Where if anywhere does it go? Why does it
persist as the quotient between the light and the world?

Jt's just mean "speed of light" - about 3 thousand metres per second
(or is it 3 million??) To get to how speed of light is measured and
actually how anything is measured (all based on speed of light), Im
reccomend 'Users guide to the Universe' by Dave Goldberg and Jeff
Blomquist; is a great book <3

xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-05 18:39:17 UTC

Post by Kaydon
I just thought I'd put this out there, for people to argue about - if
they have nothing better to do :)
The famous Einstein equation states E=MC2, which doesn't mean Energy
changes into matter, it means Energy is matter. Matter is energy.
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus combine the
abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows that God
is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That Was, and
All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it ever
be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows that Energy
always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

I"m not into riddles. Truth is there to be experienced directly.
Nor do Dead White Males figure high on my Trusted Sources list.

If you would spend more time observing the universe with ALL of
your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny new-age sew-age
on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

--
Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.

Carrie

2011-05-05 20:57:36 UTC

I"m not into riddles. Truth is there to be experienced directly.
Nor do Dead White Males figure high on my Trusted Sources list.
If you would spend more time observing the universe with ALL of
your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny new-age sew-age
on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

Post by Sidney Lambe
--
Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-05 22:47:23 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Kaydon

Post by Kaydon
I just thought I'd put this out there, for people to argue
about - if they have nothing better to do :)
The famous Einstein equation states E=MC2, which doesn't mean
Energy changes into matter, it means Energy is matter. Matter
is energy.
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective
practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus
combine the abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows
that God is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That
Was, and All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor
can it ever be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows
that Energy always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed
either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always
will exist.
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

I"m not into riddles. Truth is there to be experienced .
directly Nor do Dead White Males figure high on my Trusted .
Sources list .
If you would spend more time observing the universe with ALL
of your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny new-age
sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This is
an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental species.

I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as others.

Carrie

2011-05-05 22:05:27 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Kaydon

Post by Kaydon
I just thought I'd put this out there, for people to argue
about - if they have nothing better to do :)
The famous Einstein equation states E=MC2, which doesn't mean
Energy changes into matter, it means Energy is matter. Matter
is energy.
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective
practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus
combine the abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows
that God is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That
Was, and All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor
can it ever be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows
that Energy always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed
either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This is
an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or questionaire that
tells where a person is?

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-05 23:41:29 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Kaydon

Post by Kaydon
I just thought I'd put this out there, for people to argue
about - if they have nothing better to do :)
The famous Einstein equation states E=MC2, which doesn't mean
Energy changes into matter, it means Energy is matter. Matter
is energy.
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective
practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus
combine the abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows
that God is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That
Was, and All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor
can it ever be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows
that Energy always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed
either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This is
an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Carrie

2011-05-05 23:19:28 UTC

"Sidney Lambe" <***@alt.religion.wicca> wrote in message >>>>> of your
senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This is
an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to know you are part
way there, or to what extent. And if you know what "there" is you would be
there.
It seems to be whatever you believe it is about yourself. Why not just
say "I am there".

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-06 00:52:11 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

of your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This is
an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as
others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to know
you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained ideas.

You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In Miracles"
seriously.

It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in basic
Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Carrie

2011-05-06 00:09:10 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

of your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This is
an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as
others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to know
you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of scale if you don't
know where the top of it is?
Like you have to know what 100% of something is to know what a percent
of it is. Unless you just guess. And that's just a guess. If you're going to
decide and state you are part where there, you might as well say you are
there. Then you could answr the question about what "there" is when you get
to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In Miracles"
seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in basic
Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this and not have one's
peace disturbed by it. It's how you choose to see it. So what.

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-06 01:16:16 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
message

of your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This
is an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental
species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as
others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to know
you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of scale
if you don't know where the top of it is? Like you have to know
what 100% of something is to know what a percent of it is.
Unless you just guess. And that's just a guess. If you're going
to decide and state you are part where there, you might as well
say you are there. Then you could answr the question about what
"there" is when you get to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In Miracles"
seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in basic
Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this and not
have one's peace disturbed by it. It's how you choose to see
it. So what.

Carrie lives in a lala land where there is no truth, just
opinions. And all those opinions are equally true and valid.

Carrie

2011-05-06 02:23:31 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
message

of your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This
is an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental
species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to know
you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of scale
if you don't know where the top of it is? Like you have to know
what 100% of something is to know what a percent of it is.
Unless you just guess. And that's just a guess. If you're going
to decide and state you are part where there, you might as well
say you are there. Then you could answr the question about what
"there" is when you get to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In Miracles"
seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in basic
Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this and not
have one's peace disturbed by it. It's how you choose to see
it. So what.

Carrie lives in a lala land where there is no truth, just
opinions. And all those opinions are equally true and valid.

I very come from the truth. To do or be anything else is (to me)
being phoney and fake. Though I would probably get along better with people,
especially in groups, if I faked it. Played the game.
But honesty and truth are very important to me. If you think that's
lala land, and there's something wrong with living there, that's your
choice.

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-06 03:43:02 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
message

of your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This
is an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental
species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far
as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to
know you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained
ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of scale
if you don't know where the top of it is? Like you have to
know what 100% of something is to know what a percent of it
is. Unless you just guess. And that's just a guess. If you're
going to decide and state you are part where there, you might
as well say you are there. Then you could answr the question
about what "there" is when you get to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In
Miracles" seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in basic
Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this and
not have one's peace disturbed by it. It's how you choose to
see it. So what.

Carrie lives in a lala land where there is no truth, just
opinions. And all those opinions are equally true and valid.

I very come from the truth.

You come from a collection of religious beliefs, some of
which are true and some of which are false.

If you would learn to meditate, you would be able to tell
which was which.

Now, wishful thinking is your guide, and that really won't
do.

[delete]

Carrie

2011-05-06 12:32:47 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
message

of your senses, and less time parroting fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality. This
is an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new mental
species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far
as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale or
questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to
know you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained
ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of scale
if you don't know where the top of it is? Like you have to
know what 100% of something is to know what a percent of it
is. Unless you just guess. And that's just a guess. If you're
going to decide and state you are part where there, you might
as well say you are there. Then you could answr the question
about what "there" is when you get to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In
Miracles" seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in basic
Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this and
not have one's peace disturbed by it. It's how you choose to
see it. So what.

Carrie lives in a lala land where there is no truth, just
opinions. And all those opinions are equally true and valid.

I very come from the truth.

You come from a collection of religious beliefs, some of
which are true and some of which are false.
If you would learn to meditate, you would be able to tell
which was which.
Now, wishful thinking is your guide, and that really won't
do.

The key point in this is, what does it have to do with you? Do you
meditate and tell which is which for you and your life? If so, you would
know you can't judge, decide, gauge, make wrong, and lecture another. About
their life and "progress". That is what meditation and my beliefs tell me.

Post by Sidney Lambe
[delete]
--
Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-06 13:52:27 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
message

of your senses, and less time parroting
fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten
there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality.
This is an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new
mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale
or questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to
know you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained
ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of
scale if you don't know where the top of it is? Like you
have to know what 100% of something is to know what a
percent of it is. Unless you just guess. And that's just
a guess. If you're going to decide and state you are part
where there, you might as well say you are there. Then you
could answr the question about what "there" is when you get
to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In
Miracles" seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in
basic Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this and
not have one's peace disturbed by it. It's how you choose
to see it. So what.

Carrie lives in a lala land where there is no truth, just
opinions. And all those opinions are equally true and valid.

I very come from the truth.

You come from a collection of religious beliefs, some of which
are true and some of which are false.
If you would learn to meditate, you would be able to tell
which was which.
Now, wishful thinking is your guide, and that really won't do.

The key point in this is, what does it have to do with you?

We've been through this. It's none of your business. I do what I
do and you live with it.

This should be obvious to you by now.

You can be continue to be a bitch if you want. It just
substantiates my claim that the misnamed "a course in miracles"
is spiritual poison and produces really disgusting people.

[delete]

Carrie

2011-05-06 16:02:39 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
message

of your senses, and less time parroting
fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten
there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality.
This is an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new
mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as far as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall scale
or questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is, to
know you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained
ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of
scale if you don't know where the top of it is? Like you
have to know what 100% of something is to know what a
percent of it is. Unless you just guess. And that's just
a guess. If you're going to decide and state you are part
where there, you might as well say you are there. Then you
could answr the question about what "there" is when you get
to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In
Miracles" seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in
basic Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this and
not have one's peace disturbed by it. It's how you choose
to see it. So what.

Carrie lives in a lala land where there is no truth, just
opinions. And all those opinions are equally true and valid.

I very come from the truth.

You come from a collection of religious beliefs, some of which
are true and some of which are false.
If you would learn to meditate, you would be able to tell
which was which.
Now, wishful thinking is your guide, and that really won't do.

The key point in this is, what does it have to do with you?

We've been through this. It's none of your business. I do what I
do and you live with it.

Just trying to have a discussion on a discussion group, We have been
through all this before, too.

Post by Sidney Lambe
This should be obvious to you by now.
You can be continue to be a bitch if you want. It just
substantiates my claim that the misnamed "a course in miracles"
is spiritual poison and produces really disgusting people.
[delete]
--
Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.

Sidney Lambe

2011-05-06 17:16:44 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
message

of your senses, and less time parroting
fluffy-bunny

new-age

sew-age on the Internet, you'd get somewhere.

Where are we trying to get? Have you gotten
there?

We are trying to learn the true nature of reality.
This is an evolutionary step. We are becoming a new
mental species.
I'm partway there. Further along than some. Not as
far as others.

Is there a way to gauge this? Like an overall
scale or questionaire that tells where a person is?

Not that I know of. It's not a contest. You just know.

Seems like you would have to know what "there" is,
to know you are part way there, or to what extent.

This doesn't surprise me. You are full of hare-brained
ideas.

Well, how can you know where you are on any kind of
scale if you don't know where the top of it is? Like you
have to know what 100% of something is to know what a
percent of it is. Unless you just guess. And that's just
a guess. If you're going to decide and state you are part
where there, you might as well say you are there. Then
you could answr the question about what "there" is when
you get to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You'd have to be to take the mis-named "A Course In
Miracles" seriously.
It's not a course in miracles at all. It's a course in
basic Christianity disguised as new-age woo-woo.

Actually, it teaches to read something like this
and not have one's peace disturbed by it. It's how you
choose to see it. So what.

Carrie lives in a lala land where there is no truth, just
opinions. And all those opinions are equally true and
valid.

I very come from the truth.

You come from a collection of religious beliefs, some of
which are true and some of which are false.
If you would learn to meditate, you would be able to tell
which was which.
Now, wishful thinking is your guide, and that really won't
do.

The key point in this is, what does it have to do with you?

We've been through this. It's none of your business. I do what
I do and you live with it.

Just trying to have a discussion on a discussion group,
We have been through all this before, too.

Carrie is lying again.

Christians are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to be.
If they were honest with themselves they would know better than
to believe that poisonous nonsense.

Post by Sidney Lambe
This should be obvious to you by now.
You can be continue to be a bitch if you want. It just
substantiates my claim that the misnamed "a course in
miracles" is spiritual poison and produces really disgusting
people.
[delete]
-- Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail
(DOT) com Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb All
will be well. All manner of things will be well.

Tom

2011-05-06 17:07:25 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
Christians are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to be.
If they were honest with themselves they would know better than
to believe that poisonous nonsense.

Sid thinks people should believe his poisonous nonsense instead.
Agreeing with Sid's beliefs is "honest". Disagreeing with Sid's
beliefs is "dishonest".

Carrie

2011-05-06 17:10:48 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
Christians are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to be.
If they were honest with themselves they would know better than
to believe that poisonous nonsense.

Sid thinks people should believe his poisonous nonsense instead.
Agreeing with Sid's beliefs is "honest". Disagreeing with Sid's
beliefs is "dishonest".

He seems to get something he needs (or feels he needs) from this. What
does he get when he's ignored? He still continues it, so whatever he gets,
or thinks he gets, doesn't depend on anyone else's participation.

Kaydon

2011-05-06 17:37:22 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
Christians are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to be.
If they were honest with themselves they would know better than
to believe that poisonous nonsense.

Sid thinks people should believe his poisonous nonsense instead.
Agreeing with Sid's beliefs is "honest". Disagreeing with Sid's
beliefs is "dishonest".
He seems to get something he needs (or feels he needs) from this.
What does he get when he's ignored? He still continues it, so
whatever he gets, or thinks he gets, doesn't depend on anyone else's
participation.

Prolly a egotistical "Sid: 1, World: 0":P

<3
xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Bassos

2011-05-06 19:35:12 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
Christians are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to be.
If they were honest with themselves they would know better than
to believe that poisonous nonsense.

Sid thinks people should believe his poisonous nonsense instead.
Agreeing with Sid's beliefs is "honest". Disagreeing with Sid's
beliefs is "dishonest".
He seems to get something he needs (or feels he needs) from this.
What does he get when he's ignored? He still continues it, so
whatever he gets, or thinks he gets, doesn't depend on anyone else's
participation.

Prolly a egotistical "Sid: 1, World: 0":P
<3
xoxoxoxoo

I dislike greek, cos it has bad memories from online gaming, and greeks
getting offline if it rains. (ohr spamming Mulaka whenever)

Example how online gaming also leads to beauty :

No worries for you though, i see you working IT, and me likes.

Kaydon

2011-05-06 20:05:05 UTC

Post by Bassos

.com ... On May 6, 10:16 am, Sidney

Post by Sidney Lambe
Christians are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to
be. If they were honest with themselves they would know better
than to believe that poisonous nonsense.

Sid thinks people should believe his poisonous nonsense instead.
Agreeing with Sid's beliefs is "honest". Disagreeing with Sid's
beliefs is "dishonest".
He seems to get something he needs (or feels he needs) from this.
What does he get when he's ignored? He still continues it, so
whatever he gets, or thinks he gets, doesn't depend on anyone
else's participation.

Prolly a egotistical "Sid: 1, World: 0":P
<3
xoxoxoxoo

http://youtu.be/Q1VlRqeTkE0
I dislike greek, cos it has bad memories from online gaming, and
greeks getting offline if it rains. (ohr spamming Mulaka whenever)
http://youtu.be/Fb5LIo6HE6Y
No worries for you though, i see you working IT, and me likes.

lol-hmm ... well ... is one way look at it, I guess :) A more
productive way (for me) is ... a ickle exchange of info never hurt. I'm
assume we all has some thing to learn. Is why I'm here anyway <3

xoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Bassos

2011-05-06 20:16:54 UTC

.com ... On May 6, 10:16 am, Sidney

Post by Sidney Lambe
Christians are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to
be. If they were honest with themselves they would know better
than to believe that poisonous nonsense.

Sid thinks people should believe his poisonous nonsense instead.
Agreeing with Sid's beliefs is "honest". Disagreeing with Sid's
beliefs is "dishonest".
He seems to get something he needs (or feels he needs) from this.
What does he get when he's ignored? He still continues it, so
whatever he gets, or thinks he gets, doesn't depend on anyone
else's participation.

Prolly a egotistical "Sid: 1, World: 0":P
<3
xoxoxoxoo

lol-hmm ... well ... is one way look at it, I guess :) A more
productive way (for me) is ... a ickle exchange of info never hurt. I'm
assume we all has some thing to learn. Is why I'm here anyway<3

You did not learn from the presentation of not total destruction ?

Are you jealous ?

Kaydon

2011-05-06 20:54:38 UTC

Post by Bassos
You did not learn from the presentation of not total destruction ?
Are you jealous ?

I'm professional Solitare and Minesweeper player ^_^

<3
xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Bassos

2011-05-06 21:00:17 UTC

Post by Bassos
You did not learn from the presentation of not total destruction ?
Are you jealous ?

I'm professional Solitare and Minesweeper player ^_^
<3
xoxoxoxoo

Do you think that means stuck, or more, temptress ?

You know you wanna show me your titties.

Wait, is IT still friday ?

Hey dudette, are you somewhat like a hotty ?
(you know; skinny with big boobs and a hot tight ass)

Kaydon

2011-05-06 21:11:37 UTC

Post by Bassos

Post by Bassos
You did not learn from the presentation of not total destruction ?
Are you jealous ?

I'm professional Solitare and Minesweeper player ^_^

Do you think that means stuck, or more, temptress ?
You know you wanna show me your titties.
Wait, is IT still friday ?
Hey dudette, are you somewhat like a hotty ?
(you know; skinny with big boobs and a hot tight ass)

well ... hmm ... I'm no can say bcoz I'm bias:P

<3
xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Bassos

2011-05-06 21:41:26 UTC

Post by Bassos
You did not learn from the presentation of not total destruction ?
Are you jealous ?

I'm professional Solitare and Minesweeper player ^_^

Do you think that means stuck, or more, temptress ?
You know you wanna show me your titties.
Wait, is IT still friday ?
Hey dudette, are you somewhat like a hotty ?
(you know; skinny with big boobs and a hot tight ass)

well ... hmm ... I'm no can say bcoz I'm bias:P

<snip love>

Everyone is biased.
That does not mean you are incapable to tell stories.

I'm here without you baby, so why not come here ?
(lol, that becomes even worse if we add dreams)

And now there should be a link to house party 2, but i did not look long
enough.

'Behold, here come's the dreamer'

Let us slave and we will see what will become of hiss dreams.

Dream, and feel more complete than i have ever been.

Wait, there is some across time shit happening here.

Kaydon

2011-05-06 22:24:35 UTC

Post by Bassos
You did not learn from the presentation of not total
destruction ?
Are you jealous ?

I'm professional Solitare and Minesweeper player ^_^

Do you think that means stuck, or more, temptress ?
You know you wanna show me your titties.
Wait, is IT still friday ?
Hey dudette, are you somewhat like a hotty ?
(you know; skinny with big boobs and a hot tight ass)

well ... hmm ... I'm no can say bcoz I'm bias:P

<snip love>
Everyone is biased.
That does not mean you are incapable to tell stories.

Yes, is tru ^_^

<3
xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Tom

2011-05-06 18:31:53 UTC

He seems to get something he needs (or feels he needs) from this. What
does he get when he's ignored? He still continues it, so whatever he gets,
or thinks he gets, doesn't depend on anyone else's participation.

Very little of what Sid posts has anything to do with anyone but Sid.
He's almost entirely self-involved, as solipsists often are.

Bassos

2011-05-06 18:33:52 UTC

Post by Carrie
He seems to get something he needs (or feels he needs) from this. What
does he get when he's ignored? He still continues it, so whatever he gets,
or thinks he gets, doesn't depend on anyone else's participation.

Very little of what Sid posts has anything to do with anyone but Sid.
He's almost entirely self-involved, as solipsists often are.

There you go posting about me, again.

/wave at waldwarf.
(i remembered)

Carrie

2011-05-06 18:41:43 UTC

Very little of what Sid posts has anything to do with anyone but Sid.
He's almost entirely self-involved, as solipsists often are.

If he didn't get something from it, or feel he might, he wouldn't do it.
btw... does anyone know for sure that Sidney is a male? Doesn't reallly
come across like this most of the time. Not that it really matters, but he
is referred to as "he" and might not be.

Bassos

2011-05-06 18:47:01 UTC

Very little of what Sid posts has anything to do with anyone but Sid.
He's almost entirely self-involved, as solipsists often are.
If he didn't get something from it, or feel he might, he wouldn't do it.
btw... does anyone know for sure that Sidney is a male? Doesn't reallly
come across like this most of the time. Not that it really matters, but he
is referred to as "he" and might not be.

There is a theos-heretical possibility that Sid is a female.

So, safe bet is that he is male.

And still craving my attention to pay for when i mentioned that his
apology was not enough.

To go all free friday on your asses :

(no discipline seems better at the time, but painfull)

Sidney.Lambe

2011-05-08 18:02:26 UTC

On May 6, 12:16 pm, Sidney Lambe <***@alt.religion.wicca> wrote:

Trolls are such incredibly dishonest people. They have to be. If they
were honest with themselves they would know better than to believe
their poisonous nonsense.

Sidney Lambe / My poop is Evergreen
Solitaire (I tried Go Fish, but nobody would play) Wacco Priest
http:// I Have A tiny url

Tom

2011-05-08 19:51:34 UTC

Post by Sidney.Lambe
Trolls are such incredibly dishonest people.

Sez the troll.

Bassos

2011-05-06 16:03:31 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
You come from a collection of religious beliefs, some of
which are true and some of which are false.
If you would learn to meditate, you would be able to tell
which was which.
Now, wishful thinking is your guide, and that really won't
do.

Well, Sid is acting all needy and shit, did you notice he did not even
bother actually crossposting to ARW.

And ofcourse it is impossible to tell 'how far' along an infinite line
one has progressed.

Carrie

2011-05-05 20:56:07 UTC

Einestein was pretty darn smart.
I think, in simplier terms this (about energy) is also explained in things
like Quantum Physics. Nothing is really "solid" put just, well energy.
Molecules, atoms, whatever. Some closer, moving faster and denser than
others. More solid. But, what makes them what they are? Thought and belief?
Marianne Williamson once said someone had told her (she hadn't verifid it
at the time) that the elements/numbers whatever of the carbon atom, that
matter is made from) is 666. So "the number of the beast" isn't anything
evil, it's just what isn't "of Spirit". It would be amazing though, that
this was written about in biblical times. Though ACIM says there is no time,
moving in a line like our minds make it into and everything we think
happened (or will happen) is happening "now".
This might be correct, but we still have to put it in some order, to live
in it.
Is it okay if we learn from this topic and share and add to it, and NOT
argue? LOL
But, as you say, anyone who wants to can.

Post by Kaydon
--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Kaydon

2011-05-05 21:15:39 UTC

Post by Kaydon
I just thought I'd put this out there, for people to argue about -
if they have nothing better to do :)
The famous Einstein equation states E=MC2, which doesn't mean Energy
changes into matter, it means Energy is matter. Matter is energy.
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective
practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus combine the
abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows that
God is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That Was, and
All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it
ever be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows that
Energy always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

Conciousious collapse teh wave function into particles at spacetime.
So, is whatever u thiunk consciousness is - is observation of some kind
:)

Post by Carrie
Marianne Williamson once said someone had told
her (she hadn't verifid it at the time) that the elements/numbers
whatever of the carbon atom, that matter is made from) is 666. So
"the number of the beast" isn't anything evil, it's just what isn't
"of Spirit". It would be amazing though, that this was written about
in biblical times. Though ACIM says there is no time, moving in a
line like our minds make it into and everything we think happened (or
will happen) is happening "now". This might be correct, but we
still have to put it in some order, to live in it.

Bashar explain tihs thuruly in "Simultaneuoty of Existence". I can
upload teh entire movie 4 u if u like?? Is in 4 parts. Maybe 300mb
each. If u want just say and I upload it <3

Post by Carrie
Is it okay if we
learn from this topic and share and add to it, and NOT argue? LOL
But, as you say, anyone who wants to can.

Yes, of couse <3 Play around whit it :)

<3
xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Carrie

2011-05-05 22:09:44 UTC

Post by Kaydon
I just thought I'd put this out there, for people to argue about -
if they have nothing better to do :)
The famous Einstein equation states E=MC2, which doesn't mean Energy
changes into matter, it means Energy is matter. Matter is energy.
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective
practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus combine the
abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows that
God is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That Was, and
All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it
ever be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows that
Energy always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

Conciousious collapse teh wave function into particles at spacetime.
So, is whatever u thiunk consciousness is - is observation of some kind
:)

Bashar explain tihs thuruly in "Simultaneuoty of Existence". I can
upload teh entire movie 4 u if u like?? Is in 4 parts. Maybe 300mb
each. If u want just say and I upload it <3

Post by Carrie
Is it okay if we
learn from this topic and share and add to it, and NOT argue? LOL
But, as you say, anyone who wants to can.

Yes, of couse <3 Play around whit it :)

That would be good if you can upload a movie, Seems like I never get a
chance to read much anymore. But if I can play it on the computer (I have 2
monitors) that's easier. I sometimes play Abraham-Hicks tapes (or YouTubes)
while doing other things, too.
Deepak Chopra once explained what he calls "the field of all
possiblities". Something like looking into a box, with atom (or something-
used as an example) and they will light up when attention is given to them,
and dim when it's not. You could look at the atoms and give attention to
them in a certain way and see something, while someone else could do it and
see something else.
Maybe I'm not explaining it the way he did, but it made sense. Like
everything is ":there" it's our attention to it that creates it for us (us
as in each person- the human race). I don't know if it applies to animals,
plants, etc at least in the same way. Maybe it's "our" attention them that
creates them in that certain way.

Post by Kaydon
<3
xoxoxoxoo
--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Tom

2011-05-05 22:31:49 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Post by Kaydon
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus combine the
abstract and practical to say God is Energy.

Except that God is supposedly a conscious being who can do anything.
Is there any evidence that energy is conscious or that it can do
anything?

Post by Kaydon
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it ever
be destroyed. It can only change form.

That would be Newton telling us.

Post by Kaydon
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.

You are not energy. You are a pattern of energies. Those patterns
come and go. They are not eternal.

Carrie

2011-05-05 22:40:20 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Post by Kaydon
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus combine the
abstract and practical to say God is Energy.

Except that God is supposedly a conscious being who can do anything.
Is there any evidence that energy is conscious or that it can do
anything?

Through the minds of "man" as they use it. God is the electricity that
runs through the house, and we can tap into it and use it. Like the toaster.
God is the energy and I am the toaster... (don't ask me what the bread is
(LOL)

Post by Kaydon
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it ever
be destroyed. It can only change form.

That would be Newton telling us.

Post by Kaydon
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.

You are not energy. You are a pattern of energies. Those patterns
come and go. They are not eternal.

I see the point, everything is a manifestation of energy.
Maybe overall we don't really have to understand all this (comprehend it)
in order to experience it and use it.

Kaydon

2011-05-05 23:42:23 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Post by Kaydon
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus combine the
abstract and practical to say God is Energy.

Except that God is supposedly a conscious being who can do anything.
Is there any evidence that energy is conscious or that it can do
anything?

That depend on few things :) First, ones conception of 'God', which is
highly individualistic, thenwhat one consider 'evidence' of energy.
Personally, I consider energy as Quanta - maybe that juts me:P

Post by Kaydon
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it
ever be destroyed. It can only change form.

That would be Newton telling us.

lol-I was close enuff ^_^ What was it?? A hundred years or so??:P

Post by Kaydon
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.

You are not energy. You are a pattern of energies. Those patterns
come and go. They are not eternal.

Is rite ^_^ This takes back to teh argument about physical
bodies/soul/spirit etc. Nothing is this physcal plane 'solid'. Even teh
universe itself is as much her as is not. Sort like binary, zero and
one, constant swith on and off. So this culld turn into debate about
what constitute 'you'. Physical body?? Spirit?? Essence?? What those
term mean??

<3
xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Carrie

2011-05-06 00:10:42 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Post by Kaydon
Since God and Energy have the same function, we can thus combine the
abstract and practical to say God is Energy.

Except that God is supposedly a conscious being who can do anything.
Is there any evidence that energy is conscious or that it can do
anything?

Post by Kaydon
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it
ever be destroyed. It can only change form.

That would be Newton telling us.

lol-I was close enuff ^_^ What was it?? A hundred years or so??:P

Post by Kaydon
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.

You are not energy. You are a pattern of energies. Those patterns
come and go. They are not eternal.

It really doesn't matter, because no one can really prove anything
for sure. It's like what happens after "death" and the life force is no
longer "in" the body- form. No one really knows for sure, and there's
really not a reason to.

Kaydon

2011-05-06 13:53:16 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Teh equation your think of summary on Hawking's "Universe in a
nutshell" very near teh begin. It's "energy_released = ?mc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy

<3
xoxoxoxoo

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Carrie

2011-05-06 16:05:18 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Teh equation your think of summary on Hawking's "Universe in a
nutshell" very near teh begin. It's "energy_released = ?mc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy

A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead. I know someone who,
30 years ago was accidentallly shot in a hunting accident and paralyzed from
the neck down. At one point he realized that "a body" was not all a person
is, and maybe not even the biggest part of the person. And he never heard of
ACIM (which says "I am not a body, I am free") and probably hasn't still.

Bassos

2011-05-06 16:10:04 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Teh equation your think of summary on Hawking's "Universe in a
nutshell" very near teh begin. It's "energy_released = ?mc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy

A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

Also a bit offtopic:

Carrie

2011-05-06 16:38:13 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Teh equation your think of summary on Hawking's "Universe in a
nutshell" very near teh begin. It's "energy_released = ?mc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy

A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

http://youtu.be/zn7-fVtT16k

Well, that's different. Goes to show a rap can be made from anything.
Actually, as I listen to it, I'm thinking it's making sense, like their
basic teachings.

Bassos

2011-05-06 16:55:33 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Teh equation your think of summary on Hawking's "Universe in a
nutshell" very near teh begin. It's "energy_released = ?mc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy

A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

http://youtu.be/zn7-fVtT16k

Well, that's different. Goes to show a rap can be made from anything.
Actually, as I listen to it, I'm thinking it's making sense, like their
basic teachings.

It is kinda like how nerds would fight.

Inside info, so watchers simply have to know lots of stuff before even
seeing a fight.
Kinda like Tom vs me.

Robbie and me are more a mutual spiral double helix work.

Apparantly him and me have mars at the exact same minute in cancer.
So, mars in cancer is the worst position for mars. (and in my case,
severely more troubled due to grand cross issues with moon capp 11,
venus aries 1 and pluto libra 7th.
But both moon and mars are also part of my grand trine, so all that
friction of my grand cross, in pretty much the worst possible way, has
an outlet if i interact with someone.
(grand trine involves ascendant(pisces) trine mars(cancer), trine north
node(scorpio), and moon(cappy) trine mercury(taurus), trine
descendant(virgo))

So in fact the best position for mars, if posting in alt.magick.
(cos, same degree (not minute) of alt.magick mars in cancer)

Alt.magicks mars is a distraction to make training more difficult.
But if you, like robby and me, already live with mars there everyday,
big words in alt.magick do not even activate emotions.

Thus Kingdom.
(and i am not sure if everyone understood my little King of Alt.magick
game, but perhaps a simple quote would solve (et coagola) that:
II-15, II-21, II-24, II-58, II-64, II-74, III-34, III-45.)

Carrie

2011-05-06 17:20:39 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Teh equation your think of summary on Hawking's "Universe in a
nutshell" very near teh begin. It's "energy_released = ?mc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy

A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

http://youtu.be/zn7-fVtT16k

Well, that's different. Goes to show a rap can be made from anything.
Actually, as I listen to it, I'm thinking it's making sense, like their
basic teachings.

It is kinda like how nerds would fight.
Inside info, so watchers simply have to know lots of stuff before even
seeing a fight.
Kinda like Tom vs me.
Robbie and me are more a mutual spiral double helix work.
Apparantly him and me have mars at the exact same minute in cancer.
So, mars in cancer is the worst position for mars. (and in my case,
severely more troubled due to grand cross issues with moon capp 11, venus
aries 1 and pluto libra 7th.
But both moon and mars are also part of my grand trine, so all that
friction of my grand cross, in pretty much the worst possible way, has an
outlet if i interact with someone.
(grand trine involves ascendant(pisces) trine mars(cancer), trine north
node(scorpio), and moon(cappy) trine mercury(taurus), trine
descendant(virgo))
So in fact the best position for mars, if posting in alt.magick.
(cos, same degree (not minute) of alt.magick mars in cancer)
Alt.magicks mars is a distraction to make training more difficult.
But if you, like robby and me, already live with mars there everyday, big
words in alt.magick do not even activate emotions.
Thus Kingdom.
(and i am not sure if everyone understood my little King of Alt.magick
II-15, II-21, II-24, II-58, II-64, II-74, III-34, III-45.)

I don't get into more than the general tendencies, which can be a help
understanding others. But, overall I have all air and fire signs. So I
combust. I always wished I had an earth sign. For awhile I thought my charts
might be wrong (rising sign) because I was born in Nov, during "war time"
when it was Daylight Savings Time all year round. But the charts comensated
for this.
At one time I saw that Chiron was being used in charts now, at least by
some. And, with mine, Chiron is in Virgo, an earth sign.
Maybe my wanting this (earth for stablility) brought it about for me.
Went to look up Mars. I have Sun in Sagittarius, Moon in Libra (once
read this combination is the "natural psychiatrist") and Gemini rising.
Mercury (communication) Sagittarius, and we do like to communicate,
especially with the Gemini... Venus in Libra, Mars is 16 degrees Gemini.
Think this plays in with the idea of combusting, too.
Many years ago, I used to listen to a radio astrologer (Darrell Martini
"The Cosmic Muffin") he'd do a segment on the radio at times. He used to end
these by saying "remember, it's a wise man who is guided by the stars, but a
fool who is ruled by them..."
We still can understand our own "self" and make our own choices, learn or
own lessons.

Bassos

2011-05-06 17:32:46 UTC

The equation tells us exactly how much energy we will get when we
manage to change matter into energy. That's how we calculate the
yield of a nuclear bomb.

Teh equation your think of summary on Hawking's "Universe in a
nutshell" very near teh begin. It's "energy_released = ?mc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy

A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

http://youtu.be/zn7-fVtT16k

Well, that's different. Goes to show a rap can be made from anything.
Actually, as I listen to it, I'm thinking it's making sense, like their
basic teachings.

It is kinda like how nerds would fight.
Inside info, so watchers simply have to know lots of stuff before even
seeing a fight.
Kinda like Tom vs me.
Robbie and me are more a mutual spiral double helix work.
Apparantly him and me have mars at the exact same minute in cancer.
So, mars in cancer is the worst position for mars. (and in my case,
severely more troubled due to grand cross issues with moon capp 11, venus
aries 1 and pluto libra 7th.
But both moon and mars are also part of my grand trine, so all that
friction of my grand cross, in pretty much the worst possible way, has an
outlet if i interact with someone.
(grand trine involves ascendant(pisces) trine mars(cancer), trine north
node(scorpio), and moon(cappy) trine mercury(taurus), trine
descendant(virgo))
So in fact the best position for mars, if posting in alt.magick.
(cos, same degree (not minute) of alt.magick mars in cancer)
Alt.magicks mars is a distraction to make training more difficult.
But if you, like robby and me, already live with mars there everyday, big
words in alt.magick do not even activate emotions.
Thus Kingdom.
(and i am not sure if everyone understood my little King of Alt.magick
II-15, II-21, II-24, II-58, II-64, II-74, III-34, III-45.)

Astrology is way moar complicated than that.

Sidereal (jyotish) is moar about what happens to you, done by the universe.
Tropical is more what you do, if you choose.
So the insane difficulty of astrology lies in the small matter of people
choosing what they do sometimes, but most of the time letting
circumstances dictate behaviour.

And that is true for me aswell.
Sidereal i am quite the aries, so if someone annoys me, i can flare up
in an instant.
Lots and lots and lots and then some more lots of training went into
simply not reacting immediately, but using pause and consider.
Now, that training has payed of, and i can pretty much do that directly.

So, now i am really dangerous.
Which ofcourse immediately presents new problems.

Can't really express myself, except for a couple of exceptions.
And them exceptions are running really thin.

I guess, that is a bit why i do not like that i won the King of
alt.magick challenge.

I interacted over e-mail with my most influencial teacher over quite
some months.
And even he is not beyond me anymore.
Nobody in alt.magick even stands a chance.
(unless tommiedarling is really reaally good at hiding)

And now we have an influx of people wanting to interact with me, but
come in all boastful and off-topic.

Oh, did i mention i called friday free friday, on which day everything
is allowed, posting wise ?

Post by Carrie
At one time I saw that Chiron was being used in charts now, at least by
some. And, with mine, Chiron is in Virgo, an earth sign.
Maybe my wanting this (earth for stablility) brought it about for me.
Went to look up Mars. I have Sun in Sagittarius, Moon in Libra (once
read this combination is the "natural psychiatrist") and Gemini rising.
Mercury (communication) Sagittarius, and we do like to communicate,
especially with the Gemini... Venus in Libra, Mars is 16 degrees Gemini.
Think this plays in with the idea of combusting, too.
Many years ago, I used to listen to a radio astrologer (Darrell Martini
"The Cosmic Muffin") he'd do a segment on the radio at times. He used to end
these by saying "remember, it's a wise man who is guided by the stars, but a
fool who is ruled by them..."
We still can understand our own "self" and make our own choices, learn or
own lessons.

Carrie

2011-05-06 18:44:40 UTC

Post by Bassos
And that is true for me aswell.
Sidereal i am quite the aries, so if someone annoys me, i can flare up in
an instant.
Lots and lots and lots and then some more lots of training went into
simply not reacting immediately, but using pause and consider.
Now, that training has payed of, and i can pretty much do that directly.

Sounds like a good way to be. Not reacting from ego-emotions.
The training, did it involve martial arts?

Bassos

2011-05-06 18:49:13 UTC

Sounds like a good way to be. Not reacting from ego-emotions.
The training, did it involve martial arts?

Yes.
Pencak silat in both an aggressive combat style, as in a free flowing
move with the flow style.

I know, my experience seems like perfect.

Here is a tiny secret:

So is yours.

Tom

2011-05-06 17:04:48 UTC

A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

Carrie

2011-05-06 17:23:58 UTC

Post by Carrie
A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being so
crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

Actually, people who knew him realized quite early that Stephen had an
extraordinary mind but he wasn't considered a child prodigy and he
didn't distinguish himself in early education. Then again, the young
Einstein was considered a rather dull student, too. I think it's
purely speculative to attribute Hawking's later brilliance to his
crippling disease. If anything, it was an amazing feat to survive
undergraduate days at Oxford despite the distraction of fighting an
incurable and progressively crippling disease. People who didn't
already have remarkable mental resources couldn't have done it at all.

Of course. I think at one point Hawking MIGHT have realized that "mind"
is really all there is. Or, he focused more on mind and less on body.
I have read stories about the most creative/genius people, as children,
were bored with school, and most of the time stopped going. I think one was
Thomas Edison. I've read Bill Gate's book, where he talks about his early
years and school, and he was bored with it, too. All except the newly
developing computer ideas. At that time you had to buy kits to put together
a computer and all it did was throw switches, run by a program. He was
super smart (Gates) and able to keep up with schoolwork without putting a
lot of attention to it, and got by. Then then he made that huge mistake of
dropping out of college to start Microsoft (LOL)

Kaydon

2011-05-06 17:52:50 UTC

Post by Carrie
A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being
so crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

Actually, people who knew him realized quite early that Stephen had an
extraordinary mind but he wasn't considered a child prodigy and he
didn't distinguish himself in early education. Then again, the young
Einstein was considered a rather dull student, too. I think it's
purely speculative to attribute Hawking's later brilliance to his
crippling disease. If anything, it was an amazing feat to survive
undergraduate days at Oxford despite the distraction of fighting an
incurable and progressively crippling disease. People who didn't
already have remarkable mental resources couldn't have done it at all.
Of course. I think at one point Hawking MIGHT have realized that
"mind" is really all there is. Or, he focused more on mind and less
on body. I have read stories about the most creative/genius people,
as children, were bored with school, and most of the time stopped
going. I think one was Thomas Edison. I've read Bill Gate's book,
where he talks about his early years and school, and he was bored
with it, too. All except the newly developing computer ideas. At that
time you had to buy kits to put together a computer and all it did
was throw switches, run by a program. He was super smart (Gates) and
able to keep up with schoolwork without putting a lot of attention to
it, and got by. Then then he made that huge mistake of dropping out
of college to start Microsoft (LOL)

I just hate it when I'm make mistakes like that!! (cept I'm never have
- here's hopeing:P)

<3
xoxoxoxoop

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Carrie

2011-05-06 18:45:35 UTC

Post by Carrie
A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being
so crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

Actually, people who knew him realized quite early that Stephen had an
extraordinary mind but he wasn't considered a child prodigy and he
didn't distinguish himself in early education. Then again, the young
Einstein was considered a rather dull student, too. I think it's
purely speculative to attribute Hawking's later brilliance to his
crippling disease. If anything, it was an amazing feat to survive
undergraduate days at Oxford despite the distraction of fighting an
incurable and progressively crippling disease. People who didn't
already have remarkable mental resources couldn't have done it at all.
Of course. I think at one point Hawking MIGHT have realized that
"mind" is really all there is. Or, he focused more on mind and less
on body. I have read stories about the most creative/genius people,
as children, were bored with school, and most of the time stopped
going. I think one was Thomas Edison. I've read Bill Gate's book,
where he talks about his early years and school, and he was bored
with it, too. All except the newly developing computer ideas. At that
time you had to buy kits to put together a computer and all it did
was throw switches, run by a program. He was super smart (Gates) and
able to keep up with schoolwork without putting a lot of attention to
it, and got by. Then then he made that huge mistake of dropping out
of college to start Microsoft (LOL)

I just hate it when I'm make mistakes like that!! (cept I'm never have
- here's hopeing:P)

I think it falls under "do what you love" (follow your blisss-passion)
and don't listen to people who try and talk you out of it.

Post by Kaydon
<3
xoxoxoxoop
--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Bassos

2011-05-06 18:51:20 UTC

Post by Carrie
I think it falls under "do what you love" (follow your blisss-passion)
and don't listen to people who try and talk you out of it.

That is what i do not like about that.

Do what you like, or get excited about is choosing the easy way.
The easy way takes centuries.

The road less travelled by, or *that* way, has different options.

2011-05-07 12:33:08 UTC

Post by Carrie
A little bit off topic, but seems like Steven Hawking's body being
so crippled and un-useful, his mind has developed instead.

Actually, people who knew him realized quite early that Stephen had an
extraordinary mind but he wasn't considered a child prodigy and he
didn't distinguish himself in early education. Then again, the young
Einstein was considered a rather dull student, too. I think it's
purely speculative to attribute Hawking's later brilliance to his
crippling disease. If anything, it was an amazing feat to survive
undergraduate days at Oxford despite the distraction of fighting an
incurable and progressively crippling disease. People who didn't
already have remarkable mental resources couldn't have done it at all.
Of course. I think at one point Hawking MIGHT have realized that
"mind" is really all there is. Or, he focused more on mind and less
on body. I have read stories about the most creative/genius people,
as children, were bored with school, and most of the time stopped
going. I think one was Thomas Edison. I've read Bill Gate's book,
where he talks about his early years and school, and he was bored
with it, too. All except the newly developing computer ideas. At that
time you had to buy kits to put together a computer and all it did
was throw switches, run by a program. He was super smart (Gates) and
able to keep up with schoolwork without putting a lot of attention to
it, and got by. Then then he made that huge mistake of dropping out
of college to start Microsoft (LOL)

I just hate it when I'm make mistakes like that!! (cept I'm never have
- here's hopeing:P)

I think it falls under "do what you love" (follow your blisss-passion)
and don't listen to people who try and talk you out of it.

That's very, very much like Erwin's interpretation of Crowley's "True
Will".

"A Thelemic Primer"

http://www.erwinhessle.com/writings/thelp.php

"Fundamentals of Thelemic Practice"

http://www.erwinhessle.com/writings/thelprac.php

HG

Bassos

2011-05-07 18:21:31 UTC

Op 7-5-2011 14:33, HG schreef:>

Post by HG
That's very, very much like Erwin's interpretation of Crowley's "True
Will".
"A Thelemic Primer"
http://www.erwinhessle.com/writings/thelp.php
"Fundamentals of Thelemic Practice"
http://www.erwinhessle.com/writings/thelprac.php

http://www.erwinhessle.com/blog/?p=149

Guess who the emailer was, and how it seemed to erwin that he was wrong,
but in fact he was correct.

Just like when i endorsed his b-c bit, but he got all upset and shit.

So Erwin, thoughts on this matter ?

Why did you feel the need to use many words to demonstrate how you do
not understand reality ?

Tom

2011-05-06 18:56:50 UTC

Of course. I think at one point Hawking MIGHT have realized that "mind"
is really all there is.

Physicists rarely think that. Or they wouldn't be physicists.

I have read stories about the most creative/genius people, as children,
were bored with school, and most of the time stopped going. I think one was
Thomas Edison.

Schools tend to focus quite a bit on conformity to institutional
rules, whereas highly creative individuals often do not. This leads
to a lot of high functioning dropouts. It's possible for an eccentric
teacher to survive in school, but it's nearly impossible for an
eccentric student.

Of course, it doesn't necessarily follow that just because one dropped
out of school (or was kicked out) that one must be an eccentric
genius. You could just be a slacker, an idiot, or an antisocial
asshole.

2011-05-05 23:16:55 UTC

But sunshine and a rock are still very different things in practise.

Post by Kaydon
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function,

No they don't, stop being silly. You said *just above yourself* that
God is a subjective abstraction while Energy is an objective
practicality.

We can say *anything* about God. God hates gay people; God loves gay
people. God wants you to be a muslim; God wants to rid the world of
muslims. God is on our side; no - God is on *our* side. Etc, etc.

Energy can be measured and studied. God cannot. People are not
debating whether or not sunlight exists at all. The same cannot be said
about God...

Post by Kaydon
we can thus combine the abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows that God
is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That Was, and
All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it ever
be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows that Energy
always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.

In that case, you wouldn't mind if somebody would shoot you in the head,
would you? After all, you said energy cannot be created or destroyed.

So it wouldn't matter to you if your brains were intact and inside your
skull, or splattered all over your walls, would it?

Post by Kaydon
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

How about empty space? It also exists. Is it energy? How about time?

HG

Kaydon

2011-05-05 23:54:11 UTC

But sunshine and a rock are still very different things in practise.

Post by Kaydon
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective
practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function,

No they don't, stop being silly. You said *just above yourself* that
God is a subjective abstraction while Energy is an objective
practicality.
We can say anything about God. God hates gay people; God loves gay
people. God wants you to be a muslim; God wants to rid the world of
muslims. God is on our side; no - God is on our side. Etc, etc.
Energy can be measured and studied. God cannot. People are not
debating whether or not sunlight exists at all. The same cannot be
said about God...

I was try 2 combine what some ppl say about God (a abstraction), whit
Energy (a practicality) in order try hopefully show that terminology
ppl use no matter - is all teh same thing:P

Post by Kaydon
we can thus combine the abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows that
God is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That Was, and
All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it
ever be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows that
Energy always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.

In that case, you wouldn't mind if somebody would shoot you in the
head, would you? After all, you said energy cannot be created or
destroyed.

Personally, no - I wuldnt mind. lol-I knows many ppl that would tho ^_^

Post by HG
So it wouldn't matter to you if your brains were intact and inside
your skull, or splattered all over your walls, would it?

No ^_^

Post by Kaydon
Existence can only exist. Existence can not not exist.
It's impossible since Existence is OF Energy.

How about empty space? It also exists. Is it energy? How about time?

--
"If you think I'm weird, consider this. You base your opinion of me on
the things you know about me. Think of all the things you don't know.
If you did know them, I'd seem ten times weirder."

Carrie

2011-05-06 00:12:23 UTC

But sunshine and a rock are still very different things in practise.

Post by Kaydon
It is said that God is omnipresent, all things, everywhere at once.
God is a subjective abstraction, Energy is an objective
practicality.
Since God and Energy have the same function,

I was try 2 combine what some ppl say about God (a abstraction), whit
Energy (a practicality) in order try hopefully show that terminology
ppl use no matter - is all teh same thing:P

Post by Kaydon
we can thus combine the abstract and practical to say God is Energy.
Since Energy is everything and everything is God, it follows that
God is Energy.
God/Energy was the First Cause. It is All That Is, All That Was, and
All That Will Ever Be.
Einstein also tells us that Energy can never be created nor can it
ever be destroyed. It can only change form.
Since Energy can not be created nor destroyed, it follows that
Energy always was.
Since Energy is God, God always was and always will be.
Now, since you are OF energy, you can never be destroyed either.
You live and you die, yes, but you always existed and always will exist.

In that case, you wouldn't mind if somebody would shoot you in the
head, would you? After all, you said energy cannot be created or
destroyed.

Personally, no - I wuldnt mind. lol-I knows many ppl that would tho ^_^

The energy would still be there, just in a different form. And, it
wouldn't really matter to the person who had been killed, if he/she was then
part of non physical energy, just free of the body.

Post by HG
So it wouldn't matter to you if your brains were intact and inside
your skull, or splattered all over your walls, would it?

No ^_^