Post by aumorchestra~~ TRC-M public alert ~~
Due to the spiritual nature of the teachings of A Course in Miracles, and the desire of newsgroup participants to have a civil, course- friendly environment in which to discuss ACIM related topics, some members find it necessary and retain the right to alert the public about posters who notoriously and structurally engage in personal attacks, disrespectful statements toward, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and disrespectful statements towards A Course in Miracles, Course students and Course study.
People of good faith and ethics generally don't tolerate mean-spirited character assasinations by posters on this newsgroup who contemptibly set themselves up as a teacher of god, friends of Jesus, or anti-cult cults. A disclaimer alerting people to those twisted mind games is a civilized and measured response. ACIM in action or not, it is certainly educated, civilized and responsible posters taking action.
Poster Debra Dee McQueen Freeman, an "INSANE USENET SPAMMER" according to members of alt.bible.prophecy (see below), displays a blatant example of religious cults and religious bigots hiding behind the banner of authentic anti-ACIM advocacy. Debra Dee McQueen Freeman has made herself a public figure by presenting herself on this newsgroup. Considering Debra Dee McQueen Freeman's bizarre unethical behavior, combined with her secrecy about contact information, it hard to view Debra Dee McQueen Freeman as anything but another Internet nut case and malcontent, and her postings simply remind of a Hate cult vendetta, which has unfortunately chosen to target student/ readers of A Course in Miracles.
Such disruptive, militant atheistic, disinformation tactics by the likes of Debra Dee McQueen Freeman, have necesitated many former posters of TRCM to create a moderated newgroup for Course discussion. If you'd like to log a complaint about Debra Dee McQueen Freeman's religious bigotry go to http://www.factnet.org/ . Complaints will help establish a permanent public record of Debra Dee McQueen Freeman's Hate cult activity. Kill-filing said newsgroups trolls is best advice.
TRC-M remains a newsgroup for the open discussion of A Course in Miracles, its principles, and the practical application of its teachings. Acceptable discussions will include how A Course in Miracles affects our lives, our experiences in practicing the teachings, discussions and debates concerning our understanding of its teachings, personal insights in the form of poetry and essays, and other forms of relating to the teachings of A Course in Miracles.
EGOMANIAC ALERT!!! EGOMANIAC ALERT!!! EGOMANIAC ALERT!
WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!!
WARNING: YOU ARE STICKING YOUR NOSE INTO THE ASSHOLE
OF USENET, i.e. A Debra Dee Freeman POST.
GROUND ZERO FOR USENET'S MOST INSANE, MOST ARROGANT,
MOST EGOCENTRIC, SPAMMING ASSHOLE.
Debra Dee Freeman is an ARROGANT, INSANE, SPAMMING P.O.S.
WARNING: Debra Dee Freeman is TOTALLY INSANE.
Debra Dee Freeman is a destroyer of Usenet.
Someday, the extremely arrogant Debra Dee Freeman
will pay for the destruction she has wrought upon Usenet.
Debra Freeman is an supremely arrogant person,
totally egocentric. Pure ego. All ego, and nothing but ego.
Check out her anagram posts, a common theme of which is the
glory and heavenly anointed magnificence of Debra Freeman.
There is NO CURE for this condition.
There is a long-term dietary cure, but the patient is
always far too arrogant to follow it. They KNOW the answer
to EVERY question, and they are "always right". In the most
extreme cases, they always KNOW exactly how "God" and "Jesus"
want the rest of us ordinary mortals to live.
A small percentage of the population is like this, one
or two percent. Such people are usually unable to get
along with others, and have no real friends. They know
something is not right, but keep quiet about it, and try
to behave "normally".
Many of them pursue fame with extreme determination.
WARNING: Debra Freeman is TOTALLY INSANE.
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engage in personal attacks, disrespectful statements toward,
God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit
Thank you for perfectly describing the so-called Course in Miracles
and its aficionados that both totally excoriate as well as
schizophrenically plagiarize The True Jesus and his God
and Holy Spirit as found in GOD's word The Holy Bible
and those who believe in and honor them !!!!
But your description of me as being into religion or of religion is A LIE.
Jesus believed in two things: 1. GOD's word / Scripture (Old Testament);
and 2. THE GOD who inspired it, and thus do I. As I have stated at this
group already at least once, I do not subscribe to any religion
(gosh, I have hardly posted much at all at this group -
can't you at least read it all before attacking me and
supposedly describing me ???? !!!!!!!!
Are you just purely evil, or lazy?)
And your description of me as "her secrecy about contact information" is A LIE,
as well as EVIL HYPOCRISY on your part, as I use my real name on Usenet but
what the hell is an "aumorchestra"?, and anyone who is accessing Usenet
through the Google Groups interface can click the upper right tiny arrow and
then click "Reply privately to author" and shoot an email to me as unlike
many people I have not blocked that function / feature and I do not use
what is called a newsreader service provider. Are you wanting my telephone
number and home address ???? WHERE ARE YOURS, HYPOCRITE ???? !!!!!!!!
As far as your efforts to incite a mob action against me,
and your obviously doing some Internet searches on me
to try to find "some dirt" on me,
is that psycho crap from psycho Great Sage Itchy
the best that you can do ??
And did you also check HER out ??
Or do you not care what source you quote as long as
it is vicious to someone that you want to be vicious to?
(My my my, you ACIM peace love joy people sure can be vicious !!)
She had already been posting those exact same words for
years against Usenet poster Andrew B Chung because he has
three or more accounts and is posting to Usenet all day long
every day including purposely immediately top-posting his
chosen targeted victims or in other words is over-riding
the current Usenet limit which is 16 posts every 4 hours,
and daily or often dumps as many as 50 threads in a few hours
[she would even COUNT the number of threads that he dropped !!],
whereas I only have one account and only post regularly
to one group and so do use my 16 posts at that group as
much as 16 posts every 4 hours as is allowed / approved
by Usenet BUT GREAT SAGE ITCHY HAD A S**T F*T ABOUT
as it was the only thing she could ever find to attack me on
after I corrected her constant off-topic posts (verboten on Usenet)
wherein she constantly proffered non-Bible and non-Bible-prophecy
ideas material information such as that supposedly Jesus was a
vegetarian obsessed with diet per the work of Edmund Bordeaux Szekely
and more off-topic and crazy crap, including calling herself "His Holiness",
as documented on these threads:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!topicsearchin/alt.bible.prophecy/Great$20Sage$20Itchy;context-place=forum/alt.bible.prophecy/alt.bible.prophecy/61OMaH-u2JQ
(note: often her video links do not work / there is no video)
https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/wkmtKfvmMzs
https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!topicsearchin/alt.bible.prophecy/subject$3AGSI$20AND$20authorname$3A%22Debra$20Dee$20McQueen$20Freeman%22/alt.bible.prophecy/KNNpspPKxz8
Here she even asks another poster for dirt on me.
No coincidence that she is the one and only person
at that group of many people that you quoted !!
Post by aumorchestraWhat do you know about her, John?
I need some nasty dirt.
- GSI
But of course she also not only quoted my work at other groups
(which I happened to discover when browsing other groups),
as well as paid me this high compliment at this link
Post by aumorchestra"Impressive to see this in an evangelical NG."
TRUE VERSUS FALSE DOCTRINES, PRECEPTS, PROPHECIES
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/_UWO9VfgVpI
and here are many more compliments and high compliments to me
from a number of other people at alt.bible.prophecy
SOME OF THE COMPLIMENTS GIVEN TO DEBRA DEE FREEMAN AT ALT.BIBLE.PROPHECY
From: Nancy
To: Debra
regarding Debra's singing voice and original composition recorded here
https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/5qymw9w21t8ta3ow
This time I got it! Debra, you have a very beautiful voice!
I can not carry a tune in a bucket. I am so grateful to God that
He has given this ability to others that I may listen to. :)
****
From: Michael
To: Nancy
in regards to Nancy's above compliment to Debra
And if I may say so, with your permission, a very sexy voice!
[Here are other recordings, for those who are interested:
[Maiden Moon (original composition)
[https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/c4qqpqn11lhg3612
[Come Unto Me (original melody)
[https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/555nvb4kbxet9noa
[Delta Dawn
https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/yeq1tyc07sxc9hxn
[Lonesome Valley
[https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/sdzjh0ajvm2b20wa
****
From: Enoch
To: Debra
*waves*
Cast the bones of a dead man after drawing out his soul
Hear the waves of an Arcturus sea, hallow throated roars
Sing the Song of Moses on a winepress made of gold
Amalgamate the senses through every chakra door
On the bridge she stands hand out, a fee to pass and more
Spread your wings and fly right by in trail of sparkling soar
Lapis Lady, Absolute, the dawning of the Light
Clap your feet, flap your hands
It's gonna be alright ;)
May God Bless you
****
From: Rod, about Debra
To: Vince Garcia
No...however she is right on several things,
right enough that I have decided to dissociate
from people in usenet groups and leave. This
form of Christianity that you subscribe to leads
to the eventual deaths of others from expressing
opinions and beliefs; it's called FASCISM. It's
sad really; everything that this form of Christianity
touches it kills.
I want no part of it. Color me gone.
****
From: JW James
To: Debra
in regards to her post about the biblical description of God found here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.bible.prophecy/qcR2xXPuado/pOcpJ00jCQAJ
Well done. It covers many of the JW doctrines from the Bible.
****
From: Miloch
To: Viva
Debbie is the Betty White of the group.
****
From: Miloch
To: Michael
Debs is good hearted but terrified of the group.
****
From: Miloch
To: JAA / John Alexander Abrams
Post by aumorchestraTo whichever voice in her head created this thread, DDF claims not to know
anything about your posts. What is your name?
Eh...Debs is passionate about her religious beliefs and wears her heart on her
sleeve...you need to find somebody more worthy of your clever knife's edge
USENET wit & wisdom.
...how's about 'Michael Christ'?...now there's the complete Christian nutbag
who's just three iron spikes away from nailing himself up on his own funky
home-made wooden cross!
****
From: Miloch
To: JAA / John Alexander Abrams
It's been said before and bears repeating..."God works in mysterious ways"...
...for all you know, the Almighty has sent Debs on a mission to introduce her
anagrams to the group for some unknown other-worldly purpose...Debs could be on
a mission from God and not even know it!
So be careful of what you say....God hears every word! & may not be in the mood
to LOL.
****
From: Rod
To: Michael, about Debra
I'm not into anagrams but once in a while Debra posts
something interesting.
****
MORE OF ROD'S COMPLIMENTS
Indeed Debra, you know your bible very well,
perhaps better than anyone in this time.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.bible.prophecy/NvCAXRVYxEs/BFddhOlRCQAJ
I have spent a lot of time thinking about what you have said
here, and it makes quite a lot of sense. I will admit that
I was ignorant untruth in the cause of justice, always seeing
untruth as sin. I've heard many people speak but never on your
level.
You made an admirable case. I'm convinced.
Thank you.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.bible.prophecy/NvCAXRVYxEs/R42RPZ9vCQAJ
People make mistakes, I do as well. Perhaps I found
reason to change my mind on a subject, maybe I thought
I was wrong. I don't know every verse of the bible,
and this one in John set me back on my heels and made
me work the problem. Thankfully Debra was able to help
me. I would never have thought that John would have denied
being Elias to save his own skin as God is justifiably
rough on liars. I'd forgotten the example of Rahab
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.bible.prophecy/tfz33Oyd74s/0Avr3yLfCQAJ
If I were to be convinced..it would be this verse
[DDF: you have quoted to me] that would do so.
Your pointing out that [DDF: Baptist] John lied
is giving me cause to further look this twist over,
as Jesus should have known what John did..yet there
is not hint of that...
Thank you Debra. You would make one hell of an attorney.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.bible.prophecy/NvCAXRVYxEs/SHlBBPJSCQAJ
Post by aumorchestraDebra enjoys the right to speak openly, and
her freedom to do this is the same freedom
that YOU [Nancy] presently enjoy and the
same that John has constantly attacked.
It's a simple thing not to read things that
you don't like. Miloch has a point; use the
kill file.
It might also occur to you that somethings
posted are not for you.
If you cannot learn to adapt and adjust and
learn how to get along with others then kill
file the entire group and have it to yourself.
I could not live with myself knowing that I let
Debra lose the freedom to speak that YOU enjoy
because YOU don't like what she has to say.
That is fascism, a nazi trait.
But, here is a good question,
if supposedly you [John] think Armstrong's
church is THE CHURCH OF GOD
A N D
if supposedly you think I am
promoting Armstrong's teachings,
T H E N
W H Y
D O
Y O U
K E E P
S T A L K I N G
H A R A S S I N G
D E F A M I N G
M E ????
Me thinks John has a problem with intelligent women
not groveling at his feet and begging for his attention.
It may be the male inferiority complex surfacing again.
She [Debra] isn't a communist. She is American and exercising
her right to speak out. You [tesla sTinker] and GSI don't like that?
Tough shit!
****
ANDREW B CHUNG'S COMPLIMENT
CHUNG'S COMPLIMENT:
On September 10 2017 I started a thread titled
H-ARVEY + I-RMA = GOD SAYING HI
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/6rNTUdsHT7E
and I also even dropped that original idea / words
at several of the on-line LIVE news feeds during
Hurricane Irma.
On November 12 2017 he started a thread titled
H-arvey, I-rma, **and** M-aria: GOD reminding us of HIM
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/Ly7Qr1-Tlgg
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY COMPLIMENT OF ANY SORT
IS EXTREMELY HARD TO COME BY AT ANY USENET
DISCUSSION NEWSGROUP WHICH GROUPS USUALLY ARE
VERY COMPETITIVE AND CUT-THROAT.
AND IN THE MORE THAN THREE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN
AT ALT.BIBLE.PROPHECY SINCE MAY 28 2015 I HAVE PRETTY
MUCH READ ALL OF THE POSTS AND THERE HAVE BEEN MORE
COMPLIMENTS, AND OF GREATER SORT, POSTED IN REGARDS TO
ME AND OR MY WORK THAN ANY OTHER PERSON AT THIS GROUP.
ALL GLORY AND PRAISE TO GOD !! AMEN !!
I also have been posting to alt.anagrams since 2010
and have received many compliments there too, such as
Here are some of the compliments received from
alt.anagrams members:
THE BEST ANAGRAM FINDER? ~
DEBRA FREEMAN, AT THIS NG!
This is an excellent find.
Well done.
Christopher Sturdy
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GREAT MALE =
REGAL MATE
That's pretty good. Short and sweet.
Anna Shefl
Yes, this is good.
Jon Gearhart
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BRET MICHAELS =
REALM? BITCHES
He apparently hosted the 'Miss Universe' pageant in 2010, etc., so
he's still not left that realm behind.
Good anagram. Some names give us gifts, and others are an absolute
nightmare in anagrammatic terms.
Anna Shefl
****
R.I.P. ANNA NICOLE SMITH =
TIS CALM IN HER, NO PAIN
Not bad - it's nice when things fit together as well as this.
Anna Shefl
****
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER =
WE OLD PRO GEEKS WIN
Nicely found!
Anna Shefl
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER =
SEE, KNOW - PRIDE, GLOW
I like this one too, a different sort of rephrasing, with the touch of
poetry adding something. The punctuation you've chosen works well
also.
Anna Shefl
****
PHIL CARMODY =
HOLY CRAP - DIM! [dim as in "dim bulb"]
Not only is that a good anagram, but I think it's also new.
Nice find.
Phil Carmody
****
SO I HAVE DONE EXTREMELY WELL ON USENET,
HAVE AN EXCELLENT RECORD -
(9) YEARS AT THE ONE GROUP, AND
(4) YEARS AT THE OTHER GROUP -
AS FAR AS THERE BEING ONLY THE TWO GROUPS
THAT I POST TO REGULARLY OR
USED TO POST TO REGULARLY AND NOW ONLY POST TO INFREQUENTLY -
AND OTHERWISE JUST POST ONE POST OR A FEW POSTS TO SOME OTHER GROUP
ONCE IN A BLUE MOON OR NOW AND THEN
SUCH AS THIS GROUP
AND ALL WITH THE SAME EMAIL ACCOUNT
AND ALL WITH THE SAME NAME WHICH WENT FROM
DEBRA TO DEBRA DEE FREEMAN TO DEBRA DEE MCQUEEN FREEMAN
WHEN I BECAME MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND EXPERIENCED AND
REALIZED THE NECESSITY OF DISTINGUISHING MYSELF
FROM SOME OTHER DEBRA OR DEBRA FREEMAN
ONCE I SAW THAT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE OTHER DEBRA ON USENET -
Other than the few people at each group
who due to envy wanted to lie about me
and stalk harass defame me
such as yourself.
You envy my right to criticize ACIM
and accurately describe it and its fans,
so you come back with slander and defamation on my person and work.
YOU ARE A VICIOUS EVIL-WORKER.
A LYING SLANDERER.
GOD WILL MAKE YOU PAY FOR THESE EVILS OF YOURS
AND THIS EVIL POST OF YOURS
WHEREIN ADDITIONALLY YOU CALL THAT WHICH IS EVIL, GOOD,
AND THAT WHICH IS GOOD, EVIL.
P.S. I went to that website you linked supposedly named factnet.org
but it goes to a website named factnetglobal.org
AND there are then (6) option-links to click on:
Which one directs me to the Complaints option that you speak of?
I want to register a Complaint about YOU and about ACIM,
as that website says that they are interested in
"Healthy and safe spiritual and religious practices" and
"Social justice issues"
and YOU and ACIM trespass both of these
to wit:
It is not healthy to criticize The True Jesus
of The Holy Bible by calling him a liar by
saying that his confirmation of such things as
Sin, Hell, Evil, Satan, Wicked Spirit-Souls,
Wicked Possessing Demons, Eternal Death
was fallacious AND to also constantly quote
other of his words !!
That is pure SCHIZOPHRENIA - being double-minded -
or else pure purposeful deceit / evil
AND BOTH ABUSING THE REAL JESUS AND USING THE REAL JESUS !!
How about just quoting ACIM
instead of quoting The Holy Bible ??
THAT - ACIM - is what this group is supposed to be about !!
As far as The Holy Bible, either embrace it and its Jesus, or don't -
it and he are either what they are supposed to be or aren't !!
HOW INSANE TO PREACH AND TEACH
EVERYTHING AGAINST THE FOUNDATIONAL
PREACHINGS AND TEACHINGS OF THE REAL JESUS
OF THE HOLY BIBLE, IN HOMAGE TO THE FAKE JESUS OF ACIM,
AND THEN TO CONSTANTLY QUOTE THE HOLY BIBLE / JESUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS TOTALLY INJUST TO THE REAL JESUS,
AND HIS GOD AND HOLY SPIRIT.
AND NOT HEALTHY.