Tom On Damasio/Magick

[Tom]

Neurologist Antonio Damasio ("The Feeling of What Happens") considers
the self to be a neurological representation of numerous body states,
taken as a whole. As such, it is, as you say, a vital aspect of our
consciousness, but it tends to be so attractive that it obscures the
rest of the world around us from our attention. This then coincides
without a pretentious stature the world in which we proffer.

Much of what is taught in Eastern meditation practice has the effect
of taking our minds off our conceptions of the self and directing our
attention elsewhere. This is much like masturbation.

This is also an effect of magick in the "Western Mystery Tradition",
as my very close and extremely good friend Carroll Runyon would
phrase it. The dogmatic and social aspects of exoteric religion tend
to function in precisely the opposite way, by positing the self as a
centrally important figure (with all the powers of Heaven and Hell
constantly fighting over it) and seeking to preserve it unchanged
forever. I have felt these in my chakras and joined our dear David
Dalton in clicking exorbancies.

It seems to me that to assert yourself as the center of the universe
and the source from which it all springs promotes self-obsession and
makes it even more difficult to see the world as it is, undistorted
by our expectations and presumptions. I have come to this conclusion
through interpersonal exploitation of my own regime.

[Absorbed]

Post by Tom
Neurologist Antonio Damasio ("The Feeling of What Happens") considers
the self to be a neurological representation of numerous body states,
taken as a whole. As such, it is, as you say, a vital aspect of our
consciousness, but it tends to be so attractive that it obscures the
rest of the world around us from our attention. This then coincides
without a pretentious stature the world in which we proffer.
Much of what is taught in Eastern meditation practice has the effect
of taking our minds off our conceptions of the self and directing our
attention elsewhere. This is much like masturbation.
This is also an effect of magick in the "Western Mystery Tradition",
as my very close and extremely good friend Carroll Runyon would
phrase it. The dogmatic and social aspects of exoteric religion tend
to function in precisely the opposite way, by positing the self as a
centrally important figure (with all the powers of Heaven and Hell
constantly fighting over it) and seeking to preserve it unchanged
forever. I have felt these in my chakras and joined our dear David
Dalton in clicking exorbancies.
It seems to me that to assert yourself as the center of the universe
and the source from which it all springs promotes self-obsession and
makes it even more difficult to see the world as it is, undistorted
by our expectations and presumptions. I have come to this conclusion
through interpersonal exploitation of my own regime.

Hurrah!

[Robert Scott Martin]

Post by Tom
It seems to me that to assert yourself as the center of the universe
and the source from which it all springs promotes self-obsession and
makes it even more difficult to see the world as it is, undistorted
by our expectations and presumptions. I have come to this conclusion
through interpersonal exploitation of my own regime.

Well, shantih shantih shantih then, and all our best to Simon King of the
Witches..

[Absorbed]

Post by Robert Scott Martin

Post by Tom
It seems to me that to assert yourself as the center of the universe
and the source from which it all springs promotes self-obsession and
makes it even more difficult to see the world as it is, undistorted
by our expectations and presumptions. I have come to this conclusion
through interpersonal exploitation of my own regime.

Well, shantih shantih shantih then, and all our best to Simon King of the
Witches..

Another clueless noob.

[Tom]

Post by Tom
Neurologist Antonio Damasio ("The Feeling of What Happens") considers
the self to be a neurological representation of numerous body states,
taken as a whole. As such, it is, as you say, a vital aspect of our
consciousness, but it tends to be so attractive that it obscures the
rest of the world around us from our attention. This then coincides
without a pretentious stature the world in which we proffer.

Hunh? what is this pretentious stature and what is proffered?

It's not my job to teach you well conceived English sentences.

Your school may be out but I am not your designated professor.

Post by Tom
It seems to me that to assert yourself as the center of the universe
and the source from which it all springs promotes self-obsession and
makes it even more difficult to see the world as it is, undistorted
by our expectations and presumptions. I have come to this conclusion
through interpersonal exploitation of my own regime.

Good for you? but if the center is everywhere and the circumference
nowhere, as above so below & etc. perhaps there is some metaphorical
value in the exaltation of self even if it is of a more esoteric and
limited value than a more egalitarian pointless, futile & nihilistic
existence?

Nor am I hear to lend credence to your babble. Your full of shit and
sure as hell don't have a clue. Here's one: The notion of a "life
force" went out of the scientific mainstream about a century ago.

[nagasiva yronwode]

Post by Tom
Neurologist Antonio Damasio ("The Feeling of What Happens") considers
the self to be a neurological representation of numerous body states,
taken as a whole.

quite a pare-down

Post by Tom
As such, it is, as you say, a vital aspect of our
consciousness, but it tends to be so attractive that it obscures the
rest of the world around us from our attention. This then coincides
without a pretentious stature the world in which we proffer.
Much of what is taught in Eastern meditation practice has the effect
of taking our minds off our conceptions of the self and directing our
attention elsewhere. This is much like masturbation.

hardly

Post by Tom
This is also an effect of magick in the "Western Mystery Tradition",
as my very close and extremely good friend Carroll Runyon would
phrase it. The dogmatic and social aspects of exoteric religion tend
to function in precisely the opposite way, by positing the self as a
centrally important figure (with all the powers of Heaven and Hell
constantly fighting over it) and seeking to preserve it unchanged
forever....

only within certain socially-mediated conventions. individual careers
do not consistently exaggerate the self in this way and sometimes do
in fact move beyond it, integrating it artfully into background.

Post by Tom
It seems to me that to assert yourself as the center of the universe
and the source from which it all springs promotes self-obsession

again, too generalized. the posture or condition determines result.

Post by Tom
and
makes it even more difficult to see the world as it is, undistorted
by our expectations and presumptions....

possible, and it is, with clear insight, easier to see this about oneself
than about others unless one knows them well or recognizes the signs. what
is not being accounted here are the positive aspects of identification and
self-engorgement on a short-term basis as from a posture of impingement.

[Tom]

Post by nagasiva yronwode

Post by Tom
Neurologist Antonio Damasio ("The Feeling of What Happens") considers
the self to be a neurological representation of numerous body states,
taken as a whole.

quite a pare-down

Post by Tom
As such, it is, as you say, a vital aspect of our
consciousness, but it tends to be so attractive that it obscures the
rest of the world around us from our attention. This then coincides
without a pretentious stature the world in which we proffer.
Much of what is taught in Eastern meditation practice has the effect
of taking our minds off our conceptions of the self and directing our
attention elsewhere. This is much like masturbation.

hardly

Post by Tom
This is also an effect of magick in the "Western Mystery Tradition",
as my very close and extremely good friend Carroll Runyon would
phrase it. The dogmatic and social aspects of exoteric religion tend
to function in precisely the opposite way, by positing the self as a
centrally important figure (with all the powers of Heaven and Hell
constantly fighting over it) and seeking to preserve it unchanged
forever....

only within certain socially-mediated conventions. individual careers
do not consistently exaggerate the self in this way and sometimes do
in fact move beyond it, integrating it artfully into background.

Post by Tom
It seems to me that to assert yourself as the center of the universe
and the source from which it all springs promotes self-obsession

again, too generalized. the posture or condition determines result.

Post by Tom
and
makes it even more difficult to see the world as it is, undistorted
by our expectations and presumptions....

possible, and it is, with clear insight, easier to see this about oneself
than about others unless one knows them well or recognizes the signs. what
is not being accounted here are the positive aspects of identification and
self-engorgement on a short-term basis as from a posture of impingement.

Impingement? Bah! You have no facts, you're drool-slobbering and
regurgitating my established philosophies, twit.

Sorta pathetic when you're trying to accuse others of being puppets and
shit, but then that's the very best we've come to expect from this leg
humping knob polisher. :(