Stephen

[Carrie]

I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize and join
with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.

And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.

This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been for so
many years. Trying to communicate, share (about somethin-anything) and say
how I think, feel and believe, thinking this will result in what...? People
sharing back in the same way?

I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because all
things can be seen as lessons.

I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much more
productive. I know some here have told me this before, like "get a liife".

Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't interested in it,
or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue over.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when I try
and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really" mean, as
usual)

[HappyD]

 I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize and join
with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
  And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
   This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been for so
many years. Trying to communicate, share (about somethin-anything) and say
how I think, feel and believe, thinking this will result in what...?  People
sharing back in the same way?
   I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because all
things can be seen as lessons.
  I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much more
productive. I know some here have told me this before, like "get a liife".
  Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't interested in it,
or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue over.
  Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when I try
and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really" mean, as
usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the universe
if you try.

[Sidney Lambe]

On talk.religion.course-miracle, HappyD

Post by Carrie

=A0I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to
socialize and=

join

with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you
want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
=A0 And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
=A0 =A0This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is,
and has been =

for so

many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and sa=

y

how I think, feel and believe, thinking this will result in
what...? =A0P=

eople

sharing back in the same way?
=A0 =A0I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time,
overall, because a=

ll

things can be seen as lessons.
=A0 I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on
something much more productive. I know some here have told me
this before, like "get a liife"=

.

=A0 Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't
interested i=

n it,

or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue over.
=A0 Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad,
though when I =

try

and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really"
mean, as usual)

Happy:D You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

This snot-nosed bitch actually expects people to believe that
he's enlightened.

No, I won't be reading his reply to this.

I don't allow vermin like this to use the Usenet to communicate
with me.

ACIM sure produces a lot of human scum.

[Deborah]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

 I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize and join
with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
  And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
   This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been for so
many years. Trying to communicate, share (about somethin-anything) and say
how I think, feel and believe, thinking this will result in what...?  People
sharing back in the same way?
   I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because all
things can be seen as lessons.
  I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much more
productive. I know some here have told me this before, like "get a liife".
  Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't interested in it,
or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue over.
  Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when I try
and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really" mean, as
usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed? I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years. "Oh poor unfairly treated me, I've
just been trying to share and no one appreciates me, boo-hoo-hoo..."

Drama Queen per usual.

I'd like to see a change. I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting. Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat. He told her not to take it personally.

So? Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the subjects
he *is* here to discuss. He seems willing enough to discuss the
course and other similar topics.

Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...

Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the universe
if you try.

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by Carrie

 I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to
socialize and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you
want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of
social contact.
  And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
   This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is,
and has been for so many years. Trying to communicate,
share (about somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel
and believe, thinking this will result in what...?  People
sharing back in the same way?
   I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall,
because all things can be seen as lessons.
  I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something
much more productive. I know some here have told me this
before, like "get a liife".
  Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't
interested in it, or in the same way, and just looking for
things to argue over.
  Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad,
though when I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am,
and what I "really" mean, as usual)

Happy:D You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed? I don't know how many times I've read this
same lament from Carrie over the years. "Oh poor unfairly
treated me, I've just been trying to share and no one
appreciates me, boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.

She says as she is abusing Carrie.

Post by Deborah
I'd like to see a change.

Me too. I'd like you and your asshole friends to leave Carrie
alone.

Carrie, they hate you because you insist upon thinking for
yourself, rather than turning your mind over to them.

If this was the real world, and you were my sister or my wife or
my daughter, or even a good friend, I would tell them to go away
and leave you alone, and if they didn't, I would hurt them. No
warning, no fair play.

These are vile people. Human shit.

[HappyD]

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

 I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize and join
with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
  And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
   This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been for so
many years. Trying to communicate, share (about somethin-anything) and say
how I think, feel and believe, thinking this will result in what...?  People
sharing back in the same way?
   I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because all
things can be seen as lessons.
  I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much more
productive. I know some here have told me this before, like "get a liife".
  Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't interested in it,
or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue over.
  Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when I try
and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really" mean, as
usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed?  I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years.  "Oh poor unfairly treated me, I've
just been trying to share and no one appreciates me, boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change.  I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting.  Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat.  He told her not to take it personally.
So?  Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the subjects
he *is* here to discuss.  He seems willing enough to discuss the
course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the universe
if you try.

Happy:D

LoL I guess it will never change until it is seen differently. Of
course I don't read all of her post so i'm not so abused as you.

[Carrie]

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie
I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize
and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been
for so many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel and believe, thinking
this will result in what...? People sharing back in the same way?
I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because all
things can be seen as lessons.
I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much
more productive. I know some here have told me this before, like
"get a liife".
Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't interested
in it, or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue
over.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when
I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really"
mean, as usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed? I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years. "Oh poor unfairly treated me, I've
just been trying to share and no one appreciates me, boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change. I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting. Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat. He told her not to take it personally.
So? Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the subjects
he *is* here to discuss. He seems willing enough to discuss the
course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

Thanks for your feedback, too.
I did check back in, and if I'm ever tempted to try and participate here
again, I'll have to reread this. Maybe I'll print it out in case I forget.
I thanked Stephen and John R for their honest evaluation of me. You seem
to see this in a different way, and will probably see me thanking you in
some way other than it's meant.
It's been a long time, I've tried to get along here, but guess I never
could compromise "myself" (like be phoney and pretend?) in order to have
people like me and not point out my many faults. Even if I could be what
everyone here has told me (for years) I should/shouldn't be, I bet they
still wouldn't feel okay about it. They seem something else and more.
I'm just sorry it took so long for me to really see it, and believe it,
and give up. Get on with something else. Though I suppose in a way I
provided entertainment for some. You know, all the others here, and who
have been here who all got along so well, peacefully and liked each other so
much...
I say "this is me, h ow I am" and people tell me why that's not
acceptable and right.
But it's me. And I don't feel right about trying to change myself to
be what someone else (strangers on the internet) seem to want me to be. For
whatever reason.
As Jesus is quoted as saying don't throw your pearls before swine.
Don't share your thoughts, feelings and beliefs with those who are only
looking for something to tromple.
Not to say anyone here is a pig. (reminds me of that saying about not
trying to teach a pig to sing, it won't happen and it annoys the pig (LOL)

[HappyD]

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie
I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize
and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been
for so many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel and believe, thinking
this will result in what...? People sharing back in the same way?
I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because all
things can be seen as lessons.
I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much
more productive. I know some here have told me this before, like
"get a liife".
Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't interested
in it, or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue
over.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when
I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really"
mean, as usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed?  I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years.  "Oh poor unfairly treated me, I've
just been trying to share and no one appreciates me, boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change.  I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting.  Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat.  He told her not to take it personally.
So?  Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the subjects
he *is* here to discuss.  He seems willing enough to discuss the
course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

 Thanks for your feedback, too.
 I did check back in, and if I'm ever tempted to try and participate here
again, I'll have to reread this. Maybe I'll print it out in case I forget.
  I thanked Stephen and John R for their honest evaluation of me. You seem
to see this in a different way, and will probably see me thanking you in
some way other than it's meant.
   It's been a long time, I've tried to get along here, but guess I never
could compromise "myself" (like be phoney and pretend?) in order to have
people like me and not point out my many faults. Even if I could be what
everyone here has told me (for years) I  should/shouldn't be, I bet they
still wouldn't feel okay about it. They seem something else and more.
    I'm just sorry it took so long for me to really see it, and believe it,
and give up. Get on with something else. Though I suppose in a way I
provided entertainment for some. You  know, all the others here, and who
have been here who all got along so well, peacefully and liked each other so
much...
     I say "this is me, h ow I am" and people tell me why that's not
acceptable and right.
     But it's me.  And I don't feel right about trying to change myself to
be what someone else (strangers on the internet) seem to want me to be. For
whatever reason.
     As Jesus is quoted as saying don't throw your pearls before swine.
Don't share your thoughts, feelings and beliefs with those who are only
looking for something to tromple.
    Not to say anyone here is a pig.  (reminds me of that saying about not
trying to teach a pig to sing, it won't happen and it annoys the pig (LOL0

Happy:D
You should come to Second Life. The people are very nice and loving
there. You'll meet people from all around the world. It is really a
great experience. There s a short learning curve and you will probably
get hit on a lot though.

LOL

[HappyD]

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie
I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize
and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been
for so many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel and believe, thinking
this will result in what...? People sharing back in the same way?
I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because all
things can be seen as lessons.
I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much
more productive. I know some here have told me this before, like
"get a liife".
Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't interested
in it, or in the same way, and just looking for things to argue
over.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when
I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I "really"
mean, as usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed?  I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years.  "Oh poor unfairly treated me, I've
just been trying to share and no one appreciates me, boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change.  I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting.  Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat.  He told her not to take it personally.
So?  Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the subjects
he *is* here to discuss.  He seems willing enough to discuss the
course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

 Thanks for your feedback, too.
 I did check back in, and if I'm ever tempted to try and participate here
again, I'll have to reread this. Maybe I'll print it out in case I forget.
  I thanked Stephen and John R for their honest evaluation of me. You seem
to see this in a different way, and will probably see me thanking you in
some way other than it's meant.
   It's been a long time, I've tried to get along here, but guess I never
could compromise "myself" (like be phoney and pretend?) in order to have
people like me and not point out my many faults. Even if I could be what
everyone here has told me (for years) I  should/shouldn't be, I bet they
still wouldn't feel okay about it. They seem something else and more.
    I'm just sorry it took so long for me to really see it, and believe it,
and give up. Get on with something else. Though I suppose in a way I
provided entertainment for some. You  know, all the others here, and who
have been here who all got along so well, peacefully and liked each other so
much...
     I say "this is me, h ow I am" and people tell me why that's not
acceptable and right.
     But it's me.  And I don't feel right about trying to change myself to
be what someone else (strangers on the internet) seem to want me to be. For
whatever reason.
     As Jesus is quoted as saying don't throw your pearls before swine.
Don't share your thoughts, feelings and beliefs with those who are only
looking for something to tromple.
    Not to say anyone here is a pig.  (reminds me of that saying about not
trying to teach a pig to sing, it won't happen and it annoys the pig (LOL)

Happy:D

Oh Carrie, if you could only change and dance to our tune oh how happy
we all could be.
Thats in the Course right?

[Carrie]

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie
I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize
and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been
for so many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel and believe, thinking
this will result in what...? People sharing back in the same way?
I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because
all things can be seen as lessons.
I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much
more productive. I know some here have told me this before, like
"get a liife".
Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't
interested in it, or in the same way, and just looking for things
to argue over.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when
I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I
"really" mean, as usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed? I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years. "Oh poor unfairly treated me,
I've just been trying to share and no one appreciates me,
boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change. I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting. Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat. He told her not to take it personally.
So? Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the
subjects he *is* here to discuss. He seems willing enough to
discuss the course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

Thanks for your feedback, too.
I did check back in, and if I'm ever tempted to try and participate
here again, I'll have to reread this. Maybe I'll print it out in
case I forget. I thanked Stephen and John R for their honest
evaluation of me. You seem
to see this in a different way, and will probably see me thanking
you in some way other than it's meant.
It's been a long time, I've tried to get along here, but guess I
never could compromise "myself" (like be phoney and pretend?) in
order to have people like me and not point out my many faults. Even
if I could be what everyone here has told me (for years) I
should/shouldn't be, I bet they still wouldn't feel okay about it.
They seem something else and more.
I'm just sorry it took so long for me to really see it, and believe it,
and give up. Get on with something else. Though I suppose in a way I
provided entertainment for some. You know, all the others here, and
who have been here who all got along so well, peacefully and liked
each other so much...
I say "this is me, h ow I am" and people tell me why that's not
acceptable and right.
But it's me. And I don't feel right about trying to change myself to
be what someone else (strangers on the internet) seem to want me to
be. For whatever reason.
As Jesus is quoted as saying don't throw your pearls before swine.
Don't share your thoughts, feelings and beliefs with those who are
only looking for something to tromple.
Not to say anyone here is a pig. (reminds me of that saying about not
trying to teach a pig to sing, it won't happen and it annoys the pig (LOL)

Happy:D
Oh Carrie, if you could only change and dance to our tune oh how happy
we all could be.
Thats in the Course right?

"All things are lessons God would have me learn".
I don't think I try and change others, and wouldn't want to. I wonder why
some are so frantically intent on changing me?
If I bother thm so much they can always choose not to hang around with me.
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything I want
everyday in the first one (LOL)

[HappyD]

Post by Carrie

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie
I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize
and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been
for so many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel and believe, thinking
this will result in what...? People sharing back in the same way?
I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because
all things can be seen as lessons.
I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much
more productive. I know some here have told me this before, like
"get a liife".
Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't
interested in it, or in the same way, and just looking for things
to argue over.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when
I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I
"really" mean, as usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed? I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years. "Oh poor unfairly treated me,
I've just been trying to share and no one appreciates me,
boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change. I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting. Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat. He told her not to take it personally.
So? Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the
subjects he *is* here to discuss. He seems willing enough to
discuss the course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

Thanks for your feedback, too.
I did check back in, and if I'm ever tempted to try and participate
here again, I'll have to reread this. Maybe I'll print it out in
case I forget. I thanked Stephen and John R for their honest
evaluation of me. You seem
to see this in a different way, and will probably see me thanking
you in some way other than it's meant.
It's been a long time, I've tried to get along here, but guess I
never could compromise "myself" (like be phoney and pretend?) in
order to have people like me and not point out my many faults. Even
if I could be what everyone here has told me (for years) I
should/shouldn't be, I bet they still wouldn't feel okay about it.
They seem something else and more.
I'm just sorry it took so long for me to really see it, and believe it,
and give up. Get on with something else. Though I suppose in a way I
provided entertainment for some. You know, all the others here, and
who have been here who all got along so well, peacefully and liked
each other so much...
I say "this is me, h ow I am" and people tell me why that's not
acceptable and right.
But it's me. And I don't feel right about trying to change myself to
be what someone else (strangers on the internet) seem to want me to
be. For whatever reason.
As Jesus is quoted as saying don't throw your pearls before swine.
Don't share your thoughts, feelings and beliefs with those who are
only looking for something to tromple.
Not to say anyone here is a pig. (reminds me of that saying about not
trying to teach a pig to sing, it won't happen and it annoys the pig (LOL)

Happy:D
Oh Carrie, if you could only change and dance to our tune oh how happy
we all could be.
Thats in the Course right?

"All things are lessons God would have me learn".
  I don't think I try and change others, and wouldn't want to. I wonder why
some are so frantically intent on changing me?
  If I bother thm so much they can always choose not to hang around with me.
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything I want
everyday in the first one (LOL)

Happy:D

Isn't that the human dilemma, to Look outside see error and try to fix
it?

[Carrie]

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie
I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to
socialize and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has
been for so many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel and believe,
thinking this will result in what...? People sharing back in
the same way?
I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because
all things can be seen as lessons.
I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much
more productive. I know some here have told me this before, like
"get a liife".
Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't
interested in it, or in the same way, and just looking for
things to argue over.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though
when I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I
"really" mean, as usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed? I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years. "Oh poor unfairly treated me,
I've just been trying to share and no one appreciates me,
boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change. I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting. Stephen told her point blank he isn't
here for social chit chat. He told her not to take it personally.
So? Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the
subjects he *is* here to discuss. He seems willing enough to
discuss the course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to
focus on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

Thanks for your feedback, too.
I did check back in, and if I'm ever tempted to try and participate
here again, I'll have to reread this. Maybe I'll print it out in
case I forget. I thanked Stephen and John R for their honest
evaluation of me. You seem
to see this in a different way, and will probably see me thanking
you in some way other than it's meant.
It's been a long time, I've tried to get along here, but guess I
never could compromise "myself" (like be phoney and pretend?) in
order to have people like me and not point out my many faults. Even
if I could be what everyone here has told me (for years) I
should/shouldn't be, I bet they still wouldn't feel okay about it.
They seem something else and more.
I'm just sorry it took so long for me to really see it, and believe it,
and give up. Get on with something else. Though I suppose in a way
I provided entertainment for some. You know, all the others here,
and who have been here who all got along so well, peacefully and
liked each other so much...
I say "this is me, h ow I am" and people tell me why that's not
acceptable and right.
But it's me. And I don't feel right about trying to change myself
to be what someone else (strangers on the internet) seem to want
me to be. For whatever reason.
As Jesus is quoted as saying don't throw your pearls before swine.
Don't share your thoughts, feelings and beliefs with those who are
only looking for something to tromple.
Not to say anyone here is a pig. (reminds me of that saying about
not trying to teach a pig to sing, it won't happen and it annoys
the pig (LOL)

Happy:D
Oh Carrie, if you could only change and dance to our tune oh how
happy we all could be.
Thats in the Course right?

"All things are lessons God would have me learn".
I don't think I try and change others, and wouldn't want to. I
wonder why some are so frantically intent on changing me?
If I bother thm so much they can always choose not to hang around
with me. As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do
everything I want everyday in the first one (LOL)

Happy:D
Isn't that the human dilemma, to Look outside see error and try to fix
it?

Yes, and we can only see it (happening) in ourselves. To see someone else
doing it is to be doing it.
I'm not making anyone wrong, just saying there's no point here (on this
group) because people have been seeing me a certain way (or me seeing them
seeing me LOL) for years, and it just goes in circles. I guess if I wanted
to enough, I could try and follow what they tell me (I'm doing wrong) - or
I'm seeing them telling me I'm doing wrong, and get along. Just seems like
I use so much time here and it goes nowhere. Which, for me, could be the
overall lesson.

[Deborah]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 03:23:22 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:00:03 -0800 (PST), HappyD

Post by HappyD

Post by Carrie
I've been thinking about what you wrote (about trying to socialize
and join with people here)

Haven't you got a Facebook page? You can talk all the you want about

this sort of stuff there. I know you just want a bit of social contact.
And John Rad, he tells me I lecture.
This is all so right on. What a waste of time it is, and has been
for so many years. Trying to communicate, share (about
somethin-anything) and say how I think, feel and believe, thinking
this will result in what...? People sharing back in the same way?
I guess it really wasn't a total waste of time, overall, because
all things can be seen as lessons.
I could have used all the "time" I wasted here on something much
more productive. I know some here have told me this before, like
"get a liife".
Especially trying to relate to and with those who aren't
interested in it, or in the same way, and just looking for things
to argue over.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback (and same to John Rad, though when
I try and thank him he tells me how wrong I am, and what I
"really" mean, as usual)

Happy:D
You're prefect Carrie. Please don't change a thing.

What has changed? I don't know how many times I've read this same
lament from Carrie over the years. "Oh poor unfairly treated me,
I've just been trying to share and no one appreciates me,
boo-hoo-hoo..."
Drama Queen per usual.
I'd like to see a change. I'd like to see her learn how to respond
instead of just reacting. Stephen told her point blank he isn't here
for social chit chat. He told her not to take it personally.
So? Engage Stephen at another point when you can discuss the
subjects he *is* here to discuss. He seems willing enough to
discuss the course and other similar topics.
Three guess which of the above comments Carrie will choose to focus
on...
Deborah

Post by HappyD
Besides "you're always right" so there might be a tear in the
universe if you try.

Thanks for your feedback, too.
I did check back in, and if I'm ever tempted to try and participate
here again, I'll have to reread this. Maybe I'll print it out in
case I forget. I thanked Stephen and John R for their honest
evaluation of me. You seem
to see this in a different way, and will probably see me thanking
you in some way other than it's meant.
It's been a long time, I've tried to get along here, but guess I
never could compromise "myself" (like be phoney and pretend?) in
order to have people like me and not point out my many faults. Even
if I could be what everyone here has told me (for years) I
should/shouldn't be, I bet they still wouldn't feel okay about it.
They seem something else and more.
I'm just sorry it took so long for me to really see it, and believe it,
and give up. Get on with something else. Though I suppose in a way I
provided entertainment for some. You know, all the others here, and
who have been here who all got along so well, peacefully and liked
each other so much...
I say "this is me, h ow I am" and people tell me why that's not
acceptable and right.
But it's me. And I don't feel right about trying to change myself to
be what someone else (strangers on the internet) seem to want me to
be. For whatever reason.
As Jesus is quoted as saying don't throw your pearls before swine.
Don't share your thoughts, feelings and beliefs with those who are
only looking for something to tromple.
Not to say anyone here is a pig. (reminds me of that saying about not
trying to teach a pig to sing, it won't happen and it annoys the pig (LOL)

Happy:D
Oh Carrie, if you could only change and dance to our tune oh how happy
we all could be.
Thats in the Course right?

"All things are lessons God would have me learn".
  I don't think I try and change others, and wouldn't want to. I wonder why
some are so frantically intent on changing me?
  If I bother thm so much they can always choose not to hang around with me.
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything I want
everyday in the first one (LOL)

Happy:D
Isn't that the human dilemma, to Look outside see error and try to fix
it?

.
Maybe, but you are missing the point of what Stephen said to Carrie,
entirely. He is perfectly entitled to choose what kind of discussions
he wants to have with others, he is entitled to decline to engage in
what he regards as "social chit chat" with anyone.

If you and Carrie think he should be some other way, you can point the
finger straight back at yourselves as far as trying to change others
goes.

Deborah

[Deborah]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:14:39 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything I want
everyday in the first one (LOL)

Like the 50 or so long-winded posts you send this ng on a daily basis?
Well there's your answer Hap. Carrie doesn't want to go to a pleasant
environment like 2nd Life. She wants to be here.

Never a better example of "Everything that comes to me I ask for and
receive as I have asked."

Now, can we drop the hystrionics, please?

Deborah

[Carrie]

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:14:39 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything I want
everyday in the first one (LOL)

Like the 50 or so long-winded posts you send this ng on a daily basis?
Well there's your answer Hap. Carrie doesn't want to go to a pleasant
environment like 2nd Life. She wants to be here.
Never a better example of "Everything that comes to me I ask for and
receive as I have asked."
Now, can we drop the hystrionics, please?
Deborah

I do enjoy the lessons here. Not sure what, if any lessons would come
from a place were everyone is always pleasant and happy (a fantasy world
inside a fantasy world). And, you have no idea what I do all day, or want to
do. Just because I pop on here now and then for long-winded posts. If I
didn't what would you find to write about here?

[Deborah]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:10:22 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:14:39 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything I want
everyday in the first one (LOL)

Like the 50 or so long-winded posts you send this ng on a daily basis?
Well there's your answer Hap. Carrie doesn't want to go to a pleasant
environment like 2nd Life. She wants to be here.
Never a better example of "Everything that comes to me I ask for and
receive as I have asked."
Now, can we drop the hystrionics, please?
Deborah

I do enjoy the lessons here. Not sure what, if any lessons would come
from a place were everyone is always pleasant and happy (a fantasy world
inside a fantasy world). And, you have no idea what I do all day, or want to
do. Just because I pop on here now and then for long-winded posts. If I
didn't what would you find to write about here?

Troll.

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Deborah
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:10:22 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:14:39 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything
I want everyday in the first one (LOL)

Like the 50 or so long-winded posts you send this ng on a
daily basis? Well there's your answer Hap. Carrie doesn't
want to go to a pleasant environment like 2nd Life. She wants
to be here.
Never a better example of "Everything that comes to me I ask
for and receive as I have asked."
Now, can we drop the hystrionics, please?
Deborah

I do enjoy the lessons here. Not sure what, if any lessons
would come from a place were everyone is always pleasant and
happy (a fantasy world inside a fantasy world). And, you have
no idea what I do all day, or want to do. Just because I pop
on here now and then for long-winded posts. If I didn't what
would you find to write about here?

Troll.

Oh no. Not at all. But a troll is superior to a facist creep
like you.

You don't have a chance of controlling Carrie.

Too bad you're too stupid to see it.

Yes, whatever your real name is, I know you are reading
my articles.

[Carrie]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Deborah
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:10:22 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:14:39 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything
I want everyday in the first one (LOL)

Like the 50 or so long-winded posts you send this ng on a
daily basis? Well there's your answer Hap. Carrie doesn't
want to go to a pleasant environment like 2nd Life. She wants
to be here.
Never a better example of "Everything that comes to me I ask
for and receive as I have asked."
Now, can we drop the hystrionics, please?
Deborah

I do enjoy the lessons here. Not sure what, if any lessons
would come from a place were everyone is always pleasant and
happy (a fantasy world inside a fantasy world). And, you have
no idea what I do all day, or want to do. Just because I pop
on here now and then for long-winded posts. If I didn't what
would you find to write about here?

Troll.

Oh no. Not at all. But a troll is superior to a facist creep
like you.
You don't have a chance of controlling Carrie.
Too bad you're too stupid to see it.
Yes, whatever your real name is, I know you are reading
my articles.

And some might wonder how those who get their (negative) opinions of ACIM
and what it teaches, get their (negative) opinions about it. Going by the
people who supposedly believe it, know it, and mayber think they live it
(maybe not, that would be a stretch in most cases)
But, however Deborah, or anyone else sees me is just that. And their
choice. It doesn't effect me and the Truth about who I am. And who they are,
for that matter.

[Deborah]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:59:36 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
And some might wonder how those who get their (negative) opinions of ACIM
and what it teaches, get their (negative) opinions about it. Going by the
people who supposedly believe it, know it, and mayber think they live it
(maybe not, that would be a stretch in most cases)

This suggests you have an idea how people would behave if they were
living the course. I have a hunch your ideas are not much like mine.

I think people who are living the course would be a demonstration that
the world can not harm them. They'd have no buttons that could be
pushed, because they wouldn't be identified with some flimsy image of
themselves that could be bent out of shape like a pipe cleaner.

Their response to a perceived attack would be to remember that what
can be attacked is not them. They would not respond fearfully.

The author of the course tells us that most of us won't have to
confront the ultimate challenge that he did, but even of the
challenge he had to confront, he says he knew he could not BE
betrayed.

"Whatever suffers is not part of me" (WB 248)

Deborah

[Carrie]

Post by Deborah
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:59:36 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
And some might wonder how those who get their (negative) opinions
of ACIM and what it teaches, get their (negative) opinions about it.
Going by the people who supposedly believe it, know it, and mayber
think they live it (maybe not, that would be a stretch in most cases)

This suggests you have an idea how people would behave if they were
living the course. I have a hunch your ideas are not much like mine.
I think people who are living the course would be a demonstration that
the world can not harm them. They'd have no buttons that could be
pushed, because they wouldn't be identified with some flimsy image of
themselves that could be bent out of shape like a pipe cleaner.
Their response to a perceived attack would be to remember that what
can be attacked is not them. They would not respond fearfully.
The author of the course tells us that most of us won't have to
confront the ultimate challenge that he did, but even of the
challenge he had to confront, he says he knew he could not BE
betrayed.
"Whatever suffers is not part of me" (WB 248)
Deborah

I think you are right. And, it's something that can't be seen (or judged
or decided about) in "anyone else"
I was thinking more like newbies who come here and get the wrong idea
about ACIM going by how they see people writing to each other (here)
But, that's nothning I can do anything about, just "give it to Holy
Spirit" like everything else. And I'm not saying I always remember this.

[John Radgosky]

     But, however Deborah, or anyone else sees me is just that. And their
choice. It doesn't effect me and the Truth about who I am.

There is only one Truth about who you are. And if you actually
believed it chances are there would be no basis on which to write
about "their choice". Becasus your Truth is also theirs (ours) and
that Truth MUST set us free from any such petty concerns.

So what then becomes relevant is do I believe the Truth of me too ?
From my actions, it's most doubtful. Getting from the words to the
"feelings" and automatic reactions about it have escaped me up to this
point. But at least the words don't ring hollow.

So our question is do we actually act as if we KNOW what that Truth is
and how to BE because of it , beyond the mere words about it ?

Phew.

JR

[Carrie]

Post by John Radgosky

Post by Carrie
But, however Deborah, or anyone else sees me is just that. And their
choice. It doesn't effect me and the Truth about who I am.

There is only one Truth about who you are. And if you actually
believed it chances are there would be no basis on which to write
about "their choice". Becasus your Truth is also theirs (ours) and
that Truth MUST set us free from any such petty concerns.
So what then becomes relevant is do I believe the Truth of me too ?
From my actions, it's most doubtful. Getting from the words to the
"feelings" and automatic reactions about it have escaped me up to this
point. But at least the words don't ring hollow.
So our question is do we actually act as if we KNOW what that Truth is
and how to BE because of it , beyond the mere words about it ?
Phew.
JR

I keep thinking the problem is when we try and put this stuff into
words (form)

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Deborah
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:14:39 -0500, "Carrie"

Post by Carrie
As to Second Life, I don't have enough time to do everything I
want everyday in the first one (LOL)

Like the 50 or so long-winded posts you send this ng on a daily
basis? Well there's your answer Hap. Carrie doesn't want to go
to a pleasant environment like 2nd Life. She wants to be here.
Never a better example of "Everything that comes to me I ask
for and receive as I have asked."
Now, can we drop the hystrionics, please?

Her articles are much more interesting than your neurotic and
pathetic attempts to dominate her.

Arrogant people with no qualities to justify that arrogance
are boring to the max.

You may as well have "LOSER" tatooed on your forehead.

[John Radgosky]

Post by Sidney Lambe
You may as well have "LOSER" tatooed on your forehead.
--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Magickal Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com -http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

oh Sid, you are ever so silly. And at your age too. Oh my.

JR

[HappyD]

Now, can we drop the hystrionics, please?

Deborah

Happy:D

Yes please do, or not, its your choice.