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"The Yoga Aphorisms of Narayana," edited by Greg Henry Water
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Miracles Are Seen In Light
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The following is from "The Yoga Aphorisms of Narayana," edited by Greg Henry
Water. I think it has something in common with A Course in Miracles.
Unfortunately he didn't get the "love" part right. As Christianity and A Course
in Miracles teach: "God is Love," but given its correlations, it may be of interest.

"For I am the boundless and unfathomable Ocean of Wisdom. There are no knower and
no wisdom but I. For those who do not seek shall know (Those who are as nothing
before God.) For there is nothing but I. I am the knowner and the known in one.
There are no Yogis, there have never been any Yogis, there shall never be any
Yogis. For there is only one single Yogi in the entire cosmos. I am that Yogi
and there is no Yogi but I.) Narayana: For as long you desire, you have not
attained the object. For as long you seek, you have not found. For as long as
you walk you have not arrived. For as long as you think you are not wise. For as
long you pray, your prayers shall not be answered.

Let God desire and let God attain. Let God seek and God shall find. Remain where
you are in God's all presence. Wherever you are, God is always present. Stop
praying! Let God Pray and God shall fulfill God's prayers. For God only answers
God's prayers. For as long as a man prays to God, God shall not answer. But as
soon as God prays to God, all prayers shall be answered. They will be fulfilled
by God, but only in accordance with the laws of nature.

Jalal al Din Rumi: Wherever I turn, I see the face of God" (Tales from the
Masnavi, A.J.. Arberry, George Allen & Unwin London England, 1961 Edition

Brahman: I am as I am and the One and the Only. I reveal My Self to My Self and
to none other. I am My own cause and there is no cause but I. For I am the One
and nothing can contain Me, not even the Vedas. For I am the Nameless One, the
One beyond all scriptures.

I am the One and the source of the One, but I am not the source of anything but
the One. For the One is an aspect of My being. The One is its own source, never
created and never ending. For I am My own source and I never began and shall
never end. For I am the unfathomable Ocean of Being.

I am as I am and I am undividable. Multiplicity, the cosmos, the myriads of being
are thoughts that move through the One Mind.

Narayana: The great God who has no name is Its own cause, for there is nothing
but God. The great God who has no name only reveals Itself to Itself, for there
is none other. There is no one to reveal and no one to be revealed to. All Gods
were invented by imaginary men. For imaginary men invented empty words and they
developed the habit of worshiping these empty words as Gods and Goddesses. All
rituals are ineffective, for they were invented by imaginary men. For I am as I
am and I have nothing to do with rituals and sacrifices.

Narayana: The boundless and unfathomable Ocean of Wisdom is all encompassing.

Narayana: The World is painful and human life is desperate on account of human
stupidity. For the great Mara, the great Shaitan, the great Satan is the
manifestation of the sum total of human greed and stupidity. Ignorant men violate
the laws of nature and nature gives them pain. Much rather than blaming their own
ignorance and searching for knowledge, men evade reality by imagining Mara the
Evil One.

The radiant God is the All and the One and there is nothing but It. How can there
be impurity or evil if God is One? Ignorance, human greed, human stupidity, sloth
and torpor obstruct the vision of the great reality, the vision of the true man.

Knowing the Self is not possible, for there is nothing but God. There is no
individual Self before or outside of God or separate from God or within God. It
is not the seeker who comes to know his Self. It is God who knows God, when there
is neither seeker nor Goal, when the wise Yogi is as nothing before God. For it
is not man who is in search of God, but it is God who is in search of God in
imaginary men.

There are no men, there have never been any men, there shall never be any men said
Gaudapada. For only God attains God and nothing but God. No Yogi, no Adept, no
Saint, no Prophet ever attained Godrealization. For it is only God who attains
Godrealization, not man. Only when the seeker is as nothing before God, God alone
attains Godrealization but not the seeker, for there is no seeker. Alas, alas,
that is liberation and the great Maha Samadhi. For only God knows God.

It is not the seeker who finds God but it is God who remembers Itself in an
imaginary seeker. When this occurs, the imaginary seeker, in who God imagined
being separate from God and in whom God imagined being searching for God, is never
more. As there is no one left but God, God finds God in God. No man has ever
found God, but God finds Its is Self in God. For God finds God in some'men' who
are not 'men' in the excepted sense.

Narayana: Brahman is the One and the All and there is nothing but Brahman.
Therefore, there is no seer to see or to identify with anything. For when a man
eats an apple, and enjoys the apple, it is the Brahman enjoying eating Brahman.
Brahman is both, the modifications and the Ocean of Wisdom."


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ACIM IS A CROCK OF CRAP


The so-called ACIM is a crock of crap,
fruitless verbiage, spewed by Satan
himself, to try to draw people away
from GOD's word The Holy Bible which
teaches and preaches that there IS a
fallen angel called Satan, and there IS a
hell prepared for Satan and his angels /
messengers both celestial and human,
and there IS law and sin IS breaking law -
all the things that ACIM say do not exist.

And I have already proven what crock of crap
the so-called ACIM IS in these previous reply
posts of mine:

Gary Renard and judgement
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/Xuk26E6oOZA

ACIM - Fatal Flaw
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/9z1b5r7TYSQ

God *Is*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/PbVmthshCbo

All Talents Belong To All Of God's Children
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/otny4ntUl7E

Sin vs. Error
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/TS1uEIcp0Ug

The Perfect Messiah
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/NKE8Wy9ib9o

The Name Of God
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/xb2Df2m_1_w

Thanksgiving Bible Selections
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/talk.religion.course-miracle/G7te-e9q9PY
course zealot
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How can you have Self Realization without Solipsism,
and how can you have Solipsism, with duality?
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(really and truly) (and without error)

That,

The world doesn't exist and doesn't matter and is imagination.
And other people don't exist and don't matter, and are imagination.
and I and you don't exist and don't matter, and are imagination.
But Jesus reports what is beyond the dream,
what does exist, and does matter, and is meaning,
that God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all.
The love of God, the one self which runs through all things,
of which you are a part. And is the simple same self you know.

Even that the world I see holds nothing that I want,
because I want Me and You.

Would you throw yourself away for the world?

There is no such thing as nothing, for nothing does not exist.
But God is Love, and in him all created things must be eternal.

Only the creations of light are real, and you are a creation of light.

Child of light, the light is in you.

Find the light in your mind, and remember yourself, and God the creator of light,
again.


Find perfect peace to do this.


So what about when we disagree?

What is disagreement?

"If you will recognize that all the attack you perceive is in your own mind and
nowhere else, you will at last have placed its source, and where it begins it must
end. For in this same place also lies salvation."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 3


"If you will recognize that all the [disagreement](?) you perceive is in your own
mind and nowhere else, you will at last have placed its source, and where it
begins it must end. For in this same place also lies salvation."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 3


What of someone meditating on peace, being slapped in the face? I think when you
manifest love, you shine away your adversary's error; for the fact is "his" error
is merely and only in _your own mind_. There is no error. But I'm not sure how
this applies completely when someone declares war or takes violence on you.


"Birth was not the beginning, and death is not the end"

"The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility."
- Manual for Teachers, Section 24, Is Reincarnation So?

What is the answer to this?
Miracles Are Seen In Light
2021-02-22 00:44:10 UTC
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The following is from "The Yoga Aphorisms of Narayana," edited by Greg Henry
Water. I think it has something in common with A Course in Miracles.
Unfortunately he didn't get the "love" part right. As Christianity and A Course
in Miracles teach: "God is Love," but given its correlations, it may be of interest.

"For I am the boundless and unfathomable Ocean of Wisdom. There are no knower and
no wisdom but I. For those who do not seek shall know (Those who are as nothing
before God.) For there is nothing but I. I am the knowner and the known in one.
There are no Yogis, there have never been any Yogis, there shall never be any
Yogis. For there is only one single Yogi in the entire cosmos. I am that Yogi
and there is no Yogi but I.) Narayana: For as long you desire, you have not
attained the object. For as long you seek, you have not found. For as long as
you walk you have not arrived. For as long as you think you are not wise. For as
long you pray, your prayers shall not be answered.

Let God desire and let God attain. Let God seek and God shall find. Remain where
you are in God's all presence. Wherever you are, God is always present. Stop
praying! Let God Pray and God shall fulfill God's prayers. For God only answers
God's prayers. For as long as a man prays to God, God shall not answer. But as
soon as God prays to God, all prayers shall be answered. They will be fulfilled
by God, but only in accordance with the laws of nature.

Jalal al Din Rumi: Wherever I turn, I see the face of God" (Tales from the
Masnavi, A.J.. Arberry, George Allen & Unwin London England, 1961 Edition

Brahman: I am as I am and the One and the Only. I reveal My Self to My Self and
to none other. I am My own cause and there is no cause but I. For I am the One
and nothing can contain Me, not even the Vedas. For I am the Nameless One, the
One beyond all scriptures.

I am the One and the source of the One, but I am not the source of anything but
the One. For the One is an aspect of My being. The One is its own source, never
created and never ending. For I am My own source and I never began and shall
never end. For I am the unfathomable Ocean of Being.

I am as I am and I am undividable. Multiplicity, the cosmos, the myriads of being
are thoughts that move through the One Mind.

Narayana: The great God who has no name is Its own cause, for there is nothing
but God. The great God who has no name only reveals Itself to Itself, for there
is none other. There is no one to reveal and no one to be revealed to. All Gods
were invented by imaginary men. For imaginary men invented empty words and they
developed the habit of worshiping these empty words as Gods and Goddesses. All
rituals are ineffective, for they were invented by imaginary men. For I am as I
am and I have nothing to do with rituals and sacrifices.

Narayana: The boundless and unfathomable Ocean of Wisdom is all encompassing.

Narayana: The World is painful and human life is desperate on account of human
stupidity. For the great Mara, the great Shaitan, the great Satan is the
manifestation of the sum total of human greed and stupidity. Ignorant men violate
the laws of nature and nature gives them pain. Much rather than blaming their own
ignorance and searching for knowledge, men evade reality by imagining Mara the
Evil One.

The radiant God is the All and the One and there is nothing but It. How can there
be impurity or evil if God is One? Ignorance, human greed, human stupidity, sloth
and torpor obstruct the vision of the great reality, the vision of the true man.

Knowing the Self is not possible, for there is nothing but God. There is no
individual Self before or outside of God or separate from God or within God. It
is not the seeker who comes to know his Self. It is God who knows God, when there
is neither seeker nor Goal, when the wise Yogi is as nothing before God. For it
is not man who is in search of God, but it is God who is in search of God in
imaginary men.

There are no men, there have never been any men, there shall never be any men said
Gaudapada. For only God attains God and nothing but God. No Yogi, no Adept, no
Saint, no Prophet ever attained Godrealization. For it is only God who attains
Godrealization, not man. Only when the seeker is as nothing before God, God alone
attains Godrealization but not the seeker, for there is no seeker. Alas, alas,
that is liberation and the great Maha Samadhi. For only God knows God.

It is not the seeker who finds God but it is God who remembers Itself in an
imaginary seeker. When this occurs, the imaginary seeker, in who God imagined
being separate from God and in whom God imagined being searching for God, is never
more. As there is no one left but God, God finds God in God. No man has ever
found God, but God finds Its is Self in God. For God finds God in some'men' who
are not 'men' in the excepted sense.

Narayana: Brahman is the One and the All and there is nothing but Brahman.
Therefore, there is no seer to see or to identify with anything. For when a man
eats an apple, and enjoys the apple, it is the Brahman enjoying eating Brahman.
Brahman is both, the modifications and the Ocean of Wisdom."


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INTRODUCTION The author of this small book is a Western Yogi who is well familiar
with the esoteric cultures and the sacred literature of the Far and Middle East,
of South East Asia and the West. The Author is neither a scholar nor a linguist
but a practicing Yogi. This being the case, this book is in no capacity one more
commentary on the famed Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali. The author describes his own
experiences in Samadhi. His Yoga Aphorisms are an original text and not just a
criticism or one more commentary. His Yoga aphorisms disagree with many of the
fundamental premises of the Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali. Narayana's Yoga Aphorisms
also disagree with some of the Brahma Sutras.


The author contends that two of the most sacred foundation texts of Indian
Antiquity, the Brahman Sutra and the Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali, may feature
major discrepancies. These problems become apparent when the sacred texts are
approached from a vista of strict nondualism. Many of the Brahma Sutras and the
Yoga Aphorisms are mired in dualism and in theism. In the view of the author, many
of the dualistic and theistic aspects of the sacred texts, which also include the
Upanishads were invalidated by later developments. This is by Advaita Vedanta, by
Hindu and Buddhist nondualism, in some of the work of Sri Sankaracarya, in the
Surangama Sutra, the Lankavatara Sutra, the Diamond and Heart Sutras and in the
major texts of the Madhyamikas.


The Oriental, Indian, Chinese and Tibetan Adepts see countless phenomena in their
Samadhis and trances.


These are Gods and Goddesses, and family type pantheons. There are castels of the
Gods, celestial palaces and gardens, and paradises. They see Dynasties of Gods,
Goddesses, junior Gods, child Gods and Goddesses, Emperors of Gods with their
Empresses, Princes, Princesses, uncles, nephews, nieces and aunts. They see Kings
and Queens of Gods, Angels, Demons, heavens and hells and et cetera and ad nauseam.


Much in the opposite, the author sees nothing whatsoever in his Samadhi. He cannot
locate the demons, spirits, Buddhalands, celestial realms, paradises, palaces and
empires. He does not see what he is supposed to see in accordance with the
descriptions of Eastern Adepts, as they are featured in the sacred texts of the
East. Nor can the author locate the celestial thrones, Father Gods, Angels,
spirits, paradises, hells and Shaitans that are described by the Islamic Adepts.


The author's Samadhi is like an empty space as fast as the COSMOS with nothing
holy, with nothing whatsoever therein. His Samadhi contains nothing. It is
austere, simple and pure and does not even contain a cosmos. Whether the author is
deficient, whether he lacks essential faculties that other Adepts may have is a
question hard to answer. The fact remains that he sees and experiences nothing in
Samadhi, not even the Tathagatas, the Buddha, the Bodhisattvas, Brahma, Vishnu,
Shiva, Isvara, the Rudras or the Avatars.


Yoga and Hinduism have stagnated since the Manu Code degenerated into a
suffocating caste system with closed borders. The Pariah's and the Sudra's, the
descendants of the ancient and sophisticated preArian, Dravidian and Tamil
cultures were declared slaves and outcasts. This deprived Indias spiritual culture
of the immense heritage of India's ancient cultures and religions.

In the view of the Author, Yoga may not have originated with the Aryans at all,
but with the Tamils and the Dravidians. The social, cultural and spiritual
stagnation, that was generated by the Manu Code became even more severe with the
tragic disenfranchisement of Indian women. This sad state of affairs deprived
Indian culture and society of the cultural and artistic genius of Indian women
Overall, the degeneration of the Manu Code had as devastating an impact on India's
cultural development, as the caste system that came with institutionalized
Confucianism in Imperial China.


To all these negatives we must add the devastating impact of the Mughal conquest,
the Hun invasions and the even more tragic and more destructive aegis of the
British Raj. All these disastrous historical events arrested the development of
many aspects of India's ancient spiritual cultures. Under the devastating assaults
from within and without, India went into a state of spiritual and cultural coma.
Under the assault from Confucianism, the devastating Mongol, Hun and Manchu
conquests, Southern Chan and general Buddhism collapsed, and Imperial China also
went into cultural shock. It may be a fair conclusion that two of world histories
most rigid caste systems weakened and suffocated both societies, rendering them
ready for conquests by barbarians. This book, searches for new directions in
dealing with man's eternal quest for the great realities. It sets Out in search of
a new interpretation of India's ancient scriptures in the light of absolute or
extreme nondualism. It sets out to contribute to the release of India's venerable
but deeply wounded spiritual cultures from Stasis.


The author neither speaks, reads, nor writes any of the languages of India.
Primarily, he depends on his personal experiences and attainments in the practice
of Yoga and Samadhi. He owes cultural debts to the many excellent translations of
Indian, Tibetan, Chinese, and Persian texts. He uses these texts as overall
frameworks, to formulate his Yoga Aphorisms. His literary sources are:




* 'The Brahma Sutra. ' The Philosophy of Spiritual Life by Sarvepalli
Radhakrishnan. (Ruskin House, George Allen & Unwin, London England.) 1960 Edition.

* 'The Brahma Sutra Bhasya' with a commentary by Sankaracarya, translated by Swamy
Gambhirananda. (Advaita Ashrama, Calcutta, India.) 1965 Edition. * 'Raja Ygga.L
with the Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali and a commentary by Swami Vivekananda. (New
York, Brentanos, 1920.)

* 'The Science of Yoga. ' a Commentary on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali by I.K.
Taimni. (A Quest Book, published by the Theosophical Publishing House, Wheaton
Ill. USA.) The 1967 Edition.

* 'The Yoga System of PatAnjAji' by James Haughton Woods. ( Harvard Oriental
Series, Volume 17.) 1914 Edition.

* 'The Complete Commentary by Sankara on the Yoga Sutras. ' by Trevor Legget.
(Kegan Paul International, London & New York.)


Although the author approaches the sacred writings of the East with awe and
respect, he is audacious enough to challenge many of the veritable giants of
Indian spirituality. These are personages of the rank of Vyasa, Kapila,
Sankaracarya, Ramanuja, Sri Aurobindu and Sarvepalli Radhakrishmnan. The Nei
author searches for a solution for fundamental religious and Bpiritual problems.
These are posed by the blatant divergences between what he sees and experiences in
his Samadhi, versus what the Yogi and the Adepts of the East Bee and experience in
their Samadhi. Much worse, what the scholars, linguists and theologians interpret
poses even greater problems.


To state it clearly: 'The author sees hears, smells, tastes and touches nothing in
his Samadhi. The Adepts of the East see many things in their Samadhi. The
scholars, the commentators and the theologians describe zillions of phenomena that
in the opinion of the author do not exist.' What also aroused the author's
curiosity are the fundamental differences between his Samadhi and that of the
Samadhi or Fana, of the Persian, Arabic, Egyptian and Andalusian Sufis. This is as
much the case with the descriptions of ecstatic experiences and visions in Ibn al
Arabi's Meccan Revelations (1) as it is the case with the Mira'j of the early
Persian Sufi Abu Yazid. (2) It may emerge that Samadhi is far from a universal or
universally uniform experience. It may turn out that men of different cultures may
experience different Samadhis.


(1) The Sufi Path of Knowledge. Ibn al Arabi's Futuhat al Makkiyya. (William C.
Chittick, State University of New York Press, 1989 Edition.)


(2) 'Hindu and Muslim Mysticism, (R. C. Zaehner, University of London, The Athlone
Press, 1960 Edition, Appendix B.)


The issue at hand begs few conclusions: It may be the case that the author is an
incompetent Yogi and that his visionary and escatic experiences are either faulted
or misunderstood by him. It may also be teh case that the author lacks faculties
that only Eastern Adepts have. These faculties would enable Eastern Adepts to see
and hear the millions of Gods, Goddesses, Tathagatas, Buddhas, BodhiBattvas,
ArhatB, Demons, Angels, Spirits, celestial palaces, celestial thrones, villas,
gardens, ions, tents, paradises, heavens, hells, purgatories, after worlds and
nether worlds.

NMI

The dismal divergences may also be explained by fundamental differences between
the structure of the Western and the Eastern Psyche and their attached systems of
esoteric and collective symbolism. This issue was raised in the Collected Works of
Carl Gustav Jung, 'Rymbn1R_Qf Trans:tormation Volume 5, in Jung's 'The Archet Res
and the Collective Unconscious Volume 9.1, and in 'Aign. ' Volume 9.2, The
Bollingen Press, Princeton.) 1964 Edition.) C.G.Jung raised these issues in his
widely quoted introductions to the EvansWentz Series of Translations Of Scriptures
of the Tibetan Kargyupta Sect. (Oxford University Press) Jung elaborated on such
issues in his introduction to the 'I Chine. ~ Translated by Richard Wilhelm,
published by The Bollingen Press, Princeton 1967 Edition. He comments on these
issues in his introduction to the Richard Wilhelm translation of 'The Secret of
the Golden Flower Arkana Books, Penguin.)


It may turn out that the famous or even notorious symbols and archetypes of the
collective unconscious are not at all as collectively universal as they are
SUPPOSE to be. Could there exist formations of different kinds of symbols and
archetypes in the collective psyche of the various races and cultures of Humanity?
Would each one of these races and cultures generate within its psyche archetypes
and symbols that emanate from its typical cultural, natural and social
environment? i.e. To the Eskimos, Hell is an Ice Cave in which men freeze unto
eternity. To the Arabs, Hell is a very hot place, where men suffer unbearable thirst.


Could there exist localized constellations of archetypes and symbols of a local
Collective unconscious? These may be part of a greater constellation of
archetypes and symbols of a more universal collective unconscious?


Could we venture to understand such a universal constellation in terms of the
psychic power generating aggregate of all Humanity? Can the symbols and
archetypes of the collective unconscious of Humanity be made to work within an
objective framework? Is Magic possible, even in the 20th century? The answer may
be 'yes. ' This would only be the case with the selfrealized Yogi but never with
the theologian, the scholar, the philosopher or the wretched sectarian.When
Sankaracarya was poisoned by the dismal cook, this might not have been a case of
tough luck but a matter of incompetency. The deplorable incident demonstrated that
although Sankaracarya was a first rate philosopher, he was only a middle range
Magician. Furthermore, it might also be the case that the magic of the eastern
Adepts never worked or that their supernatural feats are greatly overstated.


One day, the Buddha was provoked by a Smith to eat roast pork. The Buddha
subsequently died of bowel congestion (dysentery). This depressing incident
testified to the fact that Gautama the Buddha, although being a first rate sage
was only a middle range magician. Tantrism and Mahayana Buddhism attribute all
kinds of supernatural feats to the Buddha. Did the Buddha ever perform them or
were these feats invented? The Buddha was an allBtere sage who did not need to
impress anyone with magic.


The conquest of Tibet by the Chinese barbarians demonstrated the blatant impotency
of Tibet's ecclesiastic magic and ritual. It can be accounted for by centuries of
stagnation plus the fact that not a single Yogi had appeared in Tibet since the
fourteenth century. Tibetan theocracy had for centuries suffocated living Buddhist
culture with one of the most oppressive caste systems known to history. The
resulting deadness made it very easy for the Chinese barbarians to rape the
defenceless Tibetan corpse.


Tibetan magic at that time was simply ceremonial, mummified and theological. As
such, it could not ever hope to match the redoubtable Siddhis (occult powers) of
the Yogis. The British historian Arnold Toynbee states that a mummified Tibetan
culture deserved conquest by the Chinese Barbarians. The failure of Tibet's
disastrously overrated magicians and demonologists to stop the hordes of Chairman
Mao can be explained by the fact that in ultimate reality, Tibetan demons do not
exist and that the dreaded magicians of Tibet are impotent


The failure of the Hindu Gods in protecting Sankaracarya, India's greatest saint
of that time against the poison of the Cook may indicate that these Gods and
Goddesses are either impotent or that they do not exist. Anyone who sees them may
just hallucinate. That the Diamond Body of the Buddha could be destroyed by a mere
pork shop is a devastating proposition. This all seems to indicate that the
Diamond Body of the Buddha does not exist or that it is greatly overrated a
phenomenon. The author does not seek controversy in any capacity but only
clarification of important fundamental issues. He contends that the Gods,
Goddesses, Demons, Angels, celestial thrones and mansions were imagined by men and
do not exist in reality. He contends that all Brahmanic sacrifices, all Buddhist
and Tantric incantations and evocations are useless. He feels that the magicians
of Tibet can raise their magic swords and sceptres for as long as they want and
that in spite of their impressive incantations and evocations nothing will happen.
These sceptres, swords, staffs, incantations, evocations and sacrifices are
useless. This is because the invoked Gods, Goddesses, spirit and demons do not
exit, except as fantasies in the human mind.


The author contends that the entire Hindu pantheon and the pantheons of the
countless Buddhas are figments of human imagination. They are at best opium for
the ignorant masses. The author presumes that there ought to exist in the East a
higher teaching that is the priceless possession of an elite small in number. This
teaching ought to be absolute and unconditional nondualism and nontheism.


The author neither desires nor fears to suffer the terrible fate of Astavakra.
Ages ago, at the court of King Janaka, the sage Astavakra became embroiled in a
contest about cows with the Yogi Yajnavalkya. Astavakra not only lost the argument
and the cows, but he ended up a heap of bones. TJ= AstavakrA SAmhita (Swami
Nityaswaryupananda. Advaita Ashrama, 5 New Delhi Entalli Road ' Calcutta, India.
1969 Edition.) Of course, the author being a Yogi, has nothing to fear from the
wretched theologians, the deepmummified magicians, the decrepit scribes, the naive
scholars and the pathetic miracle mongers.



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How can you have Self Realization without Solipsism,
and how can you have Solipsism, with duality?
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(really and truly) (and without error)
That,
The world doesn't exist and doesn't matter and is imagination.
And other people don't exist and don't matter, and are imagination.
and I and you don't exist and don't matter, and are imagination.
But Jesus reports what is beyond the dream,
what does exist, and does matter, and is meaning,
that God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all.
The love of God, the one self which runs through all things,
of which you are a part. And is the simple same self you know.
Even that the world I see holds nothing that I want,
because I want Me and You.
Would you throw yourself away for the world?
There is no such thing as nothing, for nothing does not exist.
But God is Love, and in him all created things must be eternal.
Only the creations of light are real, and you are a creation of light.
Child of light, the light is in you.
Find the light in your mind, and remember yourself, and God the creator of light,
again.
Find perfect peace to do this.
So what about when we disagree?
What is disagreement?
"If you will recognize that all the attack you perceive is in your own mind and
nowhere else, you will at last have placed its source, and where it begins it must
end. For in this same place also lies salvation."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 3
"If you will recognize that all the [disagreement](?) you perceive is in your own
mind and nowhere else, you will at last have placed its source, and where it
begins it must end. For in this same place also lies salvation."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 3
What of someone meditating on peace, being slapped in the face? I think when you
manifest love, you shine away your adversary's error; for the fact is "his" error
is merely and only in _your own mind_. There is no error. But I'm not sure how
this applies completely when someone declares war or takes violence on you.
"Birth was not the beginning, and death is not the end"
"The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility."
- Manual for Teachers, Section 24, Is Reincarnation So?
What is the answer to this?
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Re: My most successful vibrations technique

Postby todd421757 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:34 pm
I definitely agree about astral projection causing someone to be ungrounded.
Meditation works great for me also. Whenever I feel ungrounded I do the meditation
below. It has worked well for me.

Start in a perfectly silent room. After maintaining your “quiet
mind” during a period of meditation – try to become aware of
the “inner sound” that resonates in your mind.

Note, that we are NOT talking here about a sound of breathing
or heartbeat – only the sound that is in your mind.
Explore this sound. Then aim to identify its Source. By
concentration try to “locate” the Source of your “inner sound”.
While maintaining complete relaxation of every part of your
physical body, seek the maximum intensity and the highest
pitch of your “inner sound”.

Eventually (which may happen spontaneously or after many
years of practice) you will reach a state in which the “inner
sound” becomes so loud, that you will find it almost
unbearable, but only for the very first time. Do not be afraid –
this is normal.

When you are sufficiently close to the Source of the inner
sound, you should be able to find the beginning of a “tunnel” –
the same “tunnel” that has been reported by many people who
have experienced clinical death and came back to life.

To locate the “tunnel” in such a state, seek The Light at “the
other side”. The Light will initially be no bigger than a distant
star. Try to focus your attention on the star and not to “lose” it.
Then, by concentration, aim to “approach” The Light. If you
succeed, you will have a sensation of traveling with
phenomenal speed towards The Light, even though your
physical body will be perfectly still. Everything around The
Light will create the illusion of a “tunnel”. It is an illusion,
because if you exercise your Freedom of Choice and decide to
stop along the way – you will find yourself among the stars,
and the “space” will seem distorted.

When you succeed to approach The Light – it will become
very bright and eventually its brightness will exceed that of the
Sun. What we perceive as The Light – is actually our Higher
Self – our very private interface to The Great Intellect.

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Postby todd421757 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:12 pm

happyMoth wrote:Do you think the vibrations are healthy?


I don't know if they are healthy or not. I can only speak of my personal
experience. The vibrations originate from the 6 vehram energy orbs that are
outside of everyone's body. Vessen Hopkins is the discoverer of the orbs. His
ebook and website are no longer available online. I still have his ebook. I have
his email address if anyone wants to contact him to purchase his ebook. It is a
very good book. Here is his video from youtube:



I do know vibrations are required if your goal is etheric projection. Astral
projection, lucid dreaming, and phasing don't necessarily need vibrations to have
a successful projection. I only do etheric projection, so I can only speak what
works for me.

I have had somewhere around 200-300 hundred vibration experiences. One thing I
noticed is when I raise the frequency of the vibrations, I can heal myself of
colds, sickness, aches, or tired feelings. One time I lowered the frequency of the
vibrations as an experiment. I became sick for two weeks afterwards. I believe the
vibrations can heal you when raised in frequency. To me vibrations are more
important than OBE's since you actually can gain a net amount of energy to heal
yourself as long as you RAISE the frequency.

You can make the vibrations last for a long time by using your will power to raise
your pinpoint of consciousness from the exact center of your head through the top
of your skull while gently rolling your eyes backwards to raise the vibrational
frequency as high as you possibly can, and hold it there WITHOUT letting up.

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Hi jon, all
This is my shot at explaining solipsism
back in '99, at the alt.solipsism n.g.
~ Lee
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.solipsism
Date: 1999/08/29
Subject: Re: what's solipism
Hey there,
This is my first crack at answering this question, and so
please just add "I suppose" or "I would guess that..." to
every sentence that appears to speak for other than my
own experience. That being said..
Solipsism is a much maligned world-view that features the
understanding that my _own_ world (that which orbits the Sun
of my point of awareness) is truly the only world of which I have
any real knowledge, and that profound shifts in understanding
(or identity-in-the-world) come with successive moves away from
the predominant view of a 'shared' world, objectively common to
us all.
In that sense, I would say anyone who breaks free of the
'objective', impoverished world-view common to most (each
of us being hapless cogs in an unknowable machine), toward
the radically different perception of one's self as somehow
creatively, *actively*, _central_ to the Whole Show has entered
... the solipsist's zone.
In its exalted form, solipsism's roots extend to at least as
far back as the Vedic scriptures of India (though its
contemporary expressions more often than not seem to
dramatize its afflicted forms). I can know and embrace
that all of creation in some unfathomable sense expresses
*my own* deepest nature and most intimate wish.
The 'maligned' tag concerns two main issues: The
misunderstanding by some that solipsism represents an
obscene level of 'selfishness' and anti 'social' thinking, on the
one hand, and the tendency of many solipsists to linger in the
'adolescent' phase of the journey, where one is uncertain yet
of just where this scenario leads, but damned certain it's
slicker than that of the uninitiated. (Thus the clique-ishness
Unwillingness or inability to assume the challenging and
unwieldy inner work of higher solipsism can effectively lock
one into an afflicted version of the perspective that is
predominantly alienating and decidedly short of life-
affirmative. (Understandably, this probably represents the
point at which most inititiates abandon or 'outgrow' their
solipsistic phase;).
Breaking the spell of the predominant sense of (small)
identity-in-the-world can grant an exhilirating feeling of
deliverance into a vast new world of discovery, previously
hidden by that of the old. In truth, there are endless stores
of gifts and awakening that adorn the realm of "Self as Center
of (your) Universe". Nothing less, in fact, than the joyous
're-enchantment' of one's world. However, one must logically
first resolve one's dis-enchantment, and this phase can be
difficult and unpleasant - for oneself and for others. Here
too, the aphorism holds: "The only way out is through."
Different solipsists will describe the journey's end and
purpose differently, to be sure. But for those who by choice or
by grace become genuinely willing to abandon the relative
comfort of consensus reality, and move through the necessary
changes required, sufficiently to even once glimpse solipsism's
paradoxical Prize of total responsibility / total deliverance
(or Accountablity/Absolution or Understanding/Ignorance),
every definition of solipsism short of this new mark represents
merely one or another eddy-pool enroute to the ocean. Another
waystation on the mountain trail. (Any other metaphors --
anyone ?;)
The road to mastery is paved -by nature- with muddlery, it
seems. But solipsists know, at least, that this is not that
same tired road they tread, before.
Shalom, y'all
Lee
--
Lucid Living Institute of Santa Fe
"Exploring High Lucid Awareness"
PO Box 1416
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87504
Ph/Fax 505.473.1302
what's solipism?
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Hi jon, all
This is my shot at explaining solipsism
back in '99, at the alt.solipsism n.g.
~ Lee
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.solipsism
Date: 1999/08/29
Subject: Re: what's solipism
Hey there,
This is my first crack at answering this question, and so
please just add "I suppose" or "I would guess that..." to
every sentence that appears to speak for other than my
own experience. That being said..
Solipsism is a much maligned world-view that features the
understanding that my _own_ world (that which orbits the Sun
of my point of awareness) is truly the only world of which I have
any real knowledge, and that profound shifts in understanding
(or identity-in-the-world) come with successive moves away from
the predominant view of a 'shared' world, objectively common to
us all.
In that sense, I would say anyone who breaks free of the
'objective', impoverished world-view common to most (each
of us being hapless cogs in an unknowable machine), toward
the radically different perception of one's self as somehow
creatively, *actively*, _central_ to the Whole Show has entered
... the solipsist's zone.
In its exalted form, solipsism's roots extend to at least as
far back as the Vedic scriptures of India (though its
contemporary expressions more often than not seem to
dramatize its afflicted forms). I can know and embrace
that all of creation in some unfathomable sense expresses
*my own* deepest nature and most intimate wish.
The 'maligned' tag concerns two main issues: The
misunderstanding by some that solipsism represents an
obscene level of 'selfishness' and anti 'social' thinking, on the
one hand, and the tendency of many solipsists to linger in the
'adolescent' phase of the journey, where one is uncertain yet
of just where this scenario leads, but damned certain it's
slicker than that of the uninitiated. (Thus the clique-ishness
Unwillingness or inability to assume the challenging and
unwieldy inner work of higher solipsism can effectively lock
one into an afflicted version of the perspective that is
predominantly alienating and decidedly short of life-
affirmative. (Understandably, this probably represents the
point at which most inititiates abandon or 'outgrow' their
solipsistic phase;).
Breaking the spell of the predominant sense of (small)
identity-in-the-world can grant an exhilirating feeling of
deliverance into a vast new world of discovery, previously
hidden by that of the old. In truth, there are endless stores
of gifts and awakening that adorn the realm of "Self as Center
of (your) Universe". Nothing less, in fact, than the joyous
're-enchantment' of one's world. However, one must logically
first resolve one's dis-enchantment, and this phase can be
difficult and unpleasant - for oneself and for others. Here
too, the aphorism holds: "The only way out is through."
Different solipsists will describe the journey's end and
purpose differently, to be sure. But for those who by choice or
by grace become genuinely willing to abandon the relative
comfort of consensus reality, and move through the necessary
changes required, sufficiently to even once glimpse solipsism's
paradoxical Prize of total responsibility / total deliverance
(or Accountablity/Absolution or Understanding/Ignorance),
every definition of solipsism short of this new mark represents
merely one or another eddy-pool enroute to the ocean. Another
waystation on the mountain trail. (Any other metaphors --
anyone ?;)
The road to mastery is paved -by nature- with muddlery, it
seems. But solipsists know, at least, that this is not that
same tired road they tread, before.
Shalom, y'all
Lee
--
Lucid Living Institute of Santa Fe
"Exploring High Lucid Awareness"
PO Box 1416
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87504
Ph/Fax 505.473.1302
what's solipism?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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