Discussion:
Live PC Solutions scam
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Stephen
2011-02-04 04:32:13 UTC
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I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming that
Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I managed to get
the name of the actual company from her: Live PC Solutions. If they call
you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a fairly obvious scam but some may
be taken in.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Sidney Lambe
2011-02-04 05:08:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.

What's an "NSW"?
--
Sidney Lambe (Evergreen)
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
I am a Magickal Being - My Second Spell is Innocence
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
Stephen
2011-02-04 05:16:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never heard of
Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world once in a while,
and maybe you'll have better things to do than be a fucking vicious
troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Sidney Lambe
2011-02-04 05:40:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.

It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.

This is the only post of yours I've ever read.

I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.

ROTFL

I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
--
Sidney Lambe (Evergreen)
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
I am a Magickal Being - My Second Spell is Innocence
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
Stephen
2011-02-04 05:56:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
I'm smart enough to know exactly what you want and give it to you.

I'm not an ACIM student.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Sidney Lambe
2011-02-04 06:01:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
The stupid troll actually thinks I am going to
engage in a running verbal war with him.

Stephen? I'm here. If you don't like it you can
eat shit.

Your own, little boy.
--
Sidney Lambe (Evergreen)
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
I am a Magickal Being - My Second Spell is Innocence
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
Stephen
2011-02-04 06:12:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
The stupid troll actually thinks I am going to
engage in a running verbal war with him.
Stephen? I'm here. If you don't like it you can
eat shit.
Your own, little boy.
See what I mean? You get what you give, which is a principle you should
know about.

You ARE engaging with me. Whether it's a war is your call. But you
should be thanking me.for giving you what you have demonstrated is what
you want.

So you WILL respond to this. You have no choice. You're obsessive
compulsive. So dysfunctional that you think you can spew over everyone
and then engage in an ordinary conversation.

So funny. So dumb. Such a tiny mind that you have to copy and paste
rather than think.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Carrie
2011-02-04 13:13:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Sidney
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
The stupid troll actually thinks I am going to
engage in a running verbal war with him.
Stephen? I'm here. If you don't like it you can
eat shit.
Your own, little boy.
See what I mean? You get what you give, which is a principle you should
know about.
You ARE engaging with me. Whether it's a war is your call. But you
should be thanking me.for giving you what you have demonstrated is what
you want.
So you WILL respond to this. You have no choice. You're obsessive
compulsive. So dysfunctional that you think you can spew over everyone
and then engage in an ordinary conversation.
So funny. So dumb. Such a tiny mind that you have to copy and paste
rather than think.
Maybe he/she is just rambling, and you should ignore it?
Sidney Lambe
2011-02-04 06:26:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
The stupid troll actually thinks I am going to
engage in a running verbal war with him.
Stephen? I'm here. If you don't like it you can
eat shit.
Your own, little boy.
I have yet to meet anyone, on the Net or in the
real world, who is a student of ACIM, who isn't
an asshole.

I repeat, Stephen: Eat shit.

Sid
--
Sidney Lambe (Evergreen)
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
I am a Magickal Being - My Second Spell is Innocence
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
Stephen
2011-02-04 06:47:21 UTC
Permalink
On 4/02/2011 5:26 PM, Sidney Lambe wrote:
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate what
you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.

If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I actually
agree with you on some points, But since you just want to spew, go
ahead. Shrug.

Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am! But I
can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you really are.

Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with you if
you can. Otherwise you're plonked.

"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Carrie
2011-02-04 13:15:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate what
you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want to
spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am! But I
can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you really are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with you
if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would miss out on
the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one familiar
with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
nogogo
2011-02-16 12:44:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate what
you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want to
spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am! But I
can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you really are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with you
if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would miss out on
the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one familiar
with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!

And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.

We had a little one just before Yasi.

My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.

That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.

It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.

God Bless You Carrie.

~adu
Carrie
2011-02-16 13:46:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate
what you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want to
spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am! But
I can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you really
are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with you
if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would
miss out on the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one
familiar with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!
And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.
We had a little one just before Yasi.
My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.
That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.
It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.
God Bless You Carrie.
~adu
I felt uplifted by joining in this. It was such an experience. It was
like being there (and all minds are joined, so in a way it was). One person,
after the power went out (in Townsville) went out on the balcony with a
camera (iphone or something) and was showing the wind and rain, streaming it
on the internet. These were people who had stayed when told to evacuate. I
believe the joining (in safety and peace) really did help.
At the same time, I would put on USA TV and not hear anything about it.
The Weather Channel sometimes mentioned it, the biggest cyclone in history
was going to "devastate" the coast of Austalia. But, the big story was the
uprising and revolution in Egypt. That I paid little attention to.
What we give attention to (and how) creates our "reality" in the
illusion.
nogogo
2011-02-18 07:53:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate
what you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want to
spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am! But
I can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you really
are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with you
if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would
miss out on the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one
familiar with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!
And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.
We had a little one just before Yasi.
My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.
That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.
It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.
God Bless You Carrie.
~adu
I felt uplifted by joining in this. It was such an experience. It was
like being there (and all minds are joined, so in a way it was). One person,
after the power went out (in Townsville) went out on the balcony with a
camera (iphone or something) and was showing the wind and rain, streaming it
on the internet. These were people who had stayed when told to evacuate. I
believe the joining (in safety and peace) really did help.
At the same time, I would put on USA TV and not hear anything about it.
The Weather Channel sometimes mentioned it, the biggest cyclone in history
was going to "devastate" the coast of Australia. But, the big story was the
uprising and revolution in Egypt. That I paid little attention to.
What we give attention to (and how) creates our "reality" in the
illusion.
Do you remember a book called, 'Prelude to landing on planet
earth'? where at the beginning these people were flying form
airport to airport to the 'hot spots' on the planet to meditated
and pray? Maybe it's sort of like that, but these days you can do
it with the internet. Amazing what these newfangled devices do
these days! (:

The local (Australian) ABC radio stations in cairns and Townsville
both battened down the hatches and kept on broadcasting all night.
Are they the ones that you were talking about in another thread
Carrie?
Carrie
2011-02-18 13:19:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate
what you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want to
spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am!
But I can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you
really are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with
you if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would
miss out on the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one
familiar with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!
And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.
We had a little one just before Yasi.
My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.
That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.
It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.
God Bless You Carrie.
~adu
I felt uplifted by joining in this. It was such an experience. It
was like being there (and all minds are joined, so in a way it was).
One person, after the power went out (in Townsville) went out on the
balcony with a camera (iphone or something) and was showing the wind
and rain, streaming it on the internet. These were people who had
stayed when told to evacuate. I believe the joining (in safety and
peace) really did help. At the same time, I would put on USA TV
and not hear anything about it.
The Weather Channel sometimes mentioned it, the biggest cyclone in
history was going to "devastate" the coast of Australia. But, the
big story was the uprising and revolution in Egypt. That I paid
little attention to. What we give attention to (and how) creates
our "reality" in the
illusion.
Do you remember a book called, 'Prelude to landing on planet
earth'? where at the beginning these people were flying form
airport to airport to the 'hot spots' on the planet to meditated
and pray? Maybe it's sort of like that, but these days you can do
it with the internet. Amazing what these newfangled devices do
The local (Australian) ABC radio stations in cairns and Townsville
both battened down the hatches and kept on broadcasting all night.
Are they the ones that you were talking about in another thread
Carrie?
I never heard of that book I'll have to look for it.
It wasn't news people who stayed in Cairns and Townsville (that had the
live webcams and were talking on chats) it was "regular people" who had
decided to stay. I didn't see any coverage, or hear another about it on our
USA news. There's so much now "live on the interne" just from web cams and
iphones and such. One person had no power and we filming from a balcony
with a phone till the battery died.
There was also a radio station on (internet) from Queensland, the whole
time and people were calling in. Like saying they were in their bathroom
with mattresses on the walls, etc. One couple were in their car in the
driveway because the roof had blown off their house.
nogogo
2011-02-20 01:22:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate
what you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want to
spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am!
But I can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you
really are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with
you if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would
miss out on the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one
familiar with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!
And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.
We had a little one just before Yasi.
My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.
That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.
It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.
God Bless You Carrie.
~adu
I felt uplifted by joining in this. It was such an experience. It
was like being there (and all minds are joined, so in a way it was).
One person, after the power went out (in Townsville) went out on the
balcony with a camera (iphone or something) and was showing the wind
and rain, streaming it on the internet. These were people who had
stayed when told to evacuate. I believe the joining (in safety and
peace) really did help. At the same time, I would put on USA TV
and not hear anything about it.
The Weather Channel sometimes mentioned it, the biggest cyclone in
history was going to "devastate" the coast of Australia. But, the
big story was the uprising and revolution in Egypt. That I paid
little attention to. What we give attention to (and how) creates
our "reality" in the
illusion.
Do you remember a book called, 'Prelude to landing on planet
earth'? where at the beginning these people were flying form
airport to airport to the 'hot spots' on the planet to meditated
and pray? Maybe it's sort of like that, but these days you can do
it with the internet. Amazing what these newfangled devices do
The local (Australian) ABC radio stations in cairns and Townsville
both battened down the hatches and kept on broadcasting all night.
Are they the ones that you were talking about in another thread
Carrie?
I never heard of that book I'll have to look for it.
It wasn't news people who stayed in Cairns and Townsville (that had the
live webcams and were talking on chats) it was "regular people" who had
decided to stay. I didn't see any coverage, or hear another about it on our
USA news. There's so much now "live on the internet" just from web cams and
iphones and such. One person had no power and we filming from a balcony
with a phone till the battery died.
There was also a radio station on (internet) from Queensland, the whole
time and people were calling in. Like saying they were in their bathroom
with mattresses on the walls, etc. One couple were in their car in the
driveway because the roof had blown off their house.
yes, that's it, the radio stations were all we had to listen to
all night and for the next six days. I did see some great amateur
footage... after we got the power back on.

Some people did do it tough during this last one. And everyone
has their own pet theory as to the best way to ride out a cyclone.
But in the end, if your in a good spot, then it's just the luck
of the draw as to which way the dam things go.

But not having AC power is only and inconvenience to us really.
We have gas oven and stove top, solar hot water with gas backup,
and a whole bunch of solar lights. One for these days we'll get
an inverter and some batteries and a few solar panels, then to
hell with the power grid. (: I put in all the 240 volt wiring for
this place. I think I missed my calling. I should have been a
sparkie!

Valentines before last, I gave Chris some LED candles. They are
quite cute, because they flicker just like a real candle. I also
gave a whole mob to friends and family the following Xmas. The
amount of comments about how (a). romantic and (b). useful they
turned out to be during blackouts, has been quite astounding.
Talk about a gift that keeps on giving. Wowha! (:

I find Cyclones are a bit like spending the night in the Police
lock-up. It's something that can be quite enjoyable if you have
the right attitude. But you wouldn't want to do it more than a
few times in a life time! ((:

{{{Carrie}}}
Carrie
2011-02-20 03:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate
what you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want
to spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am!
But I can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you
really are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with
you if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would
miss out on the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one
familiar with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!
And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.
We had a little one just before Yasi.
My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.
That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.
It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.
God Bless You Carrie.
~adu
I felt uplifted by joining in this. It was such an experience.
It was like being there (and all minds are joined, so in a way it
was). One person, after the power went out (in Townsville) went
out on the balcony with a camera (iphone or something) and was
showing the wind and rain, streaming it on the internet. These
were people who had stayed when told to evacuate. I believe the
joining (in safety and peace) really did help. At the same
time, I would put on USA TV
and not hear anything about it.
The Weather Channel sometimes mentioned it, the biggest cyclone in
history was going to "devastate" the coast of Australia. But, the
big story was the uprising and revolution in Egypt. That I paid
little attention to. What we give attention to (and how)
creates our "reality" in the
illusion.
Do you remember a book called, 'Prelude to landing on planet
earth'? where at the beginning these people were flying form
airport to airport to the 'hot spots' on the planet to meditated
and pray? Maybe it's sort of like that, but these days you can do
it with the internet. Amazing what these newfangled devices do
The local (Australian) ABC radio stations in cairns and Townsville
both battened down the hatches and kept on broadcasting all night.
Are they the ones that you were talking about in another thread
Carrie?
I never heard of that book I'll have to look for it.
It wasn't news people who stayed in Cairns and Townsville (that
had the live webcams and were talking on chats) it was "regular
people" who had decided to stay. I didn't see any coverage, or hear
another about it on our USA news. There's so much now "live on the
internet" just from web cams and iphones and such. One person had
no power and we filming from a balcony with a phone till the battery
died. There was also a radio station on (internet) from
Queensland, the whole time and people were calling in. Like saying
they were in their bathroom with mattresses on the walls, etc. One
couple were in their car in the driveway because the roof had blown
off their house.
yes, that's it, the radio stations were all we had to listen to
all night and for the next six days. I did see some great amateur
footage... after we got the power back on.
Some people did do it tough during this last one. And everyone
has their own pet theory as to the best way to ride out a cyclone.
But in the end, if your in a good spot, then it's just the luck
of the draw as to which way the dam things go.
But not having AC power is only and inconvenience to us really.
We have gas oven and stove top, solar hot water with gas backup,
and a whole bunch of solar lights. One for these days we'll get
an inverter and some batteries and a few solar panels, then to
hell with the power grid. (: I put in all the 240 volt wiring for
this place. I think I missed my calling. I should have been a
sparkie!
Valentines before last, I gave Chris some LED candles. They are
quite cute, because they flicker just like a real candle. I also
gave a whole mob to friends and family the following Xmas. The
amount of comments about how (a). romantic and (b). useful they
turned out to be during blackouts, has been quite astounding.
I find Cyclones are a bit like spending the night in the Police
lock-up. It's something that can be quite enjoyable if you have
the right attitude. But you wouldn't want to do it more than a
{{{Carrie}}}
That's a great idea. I would love to put in solar panels, or even build a
"sunporch" on the front of the house (faces south) to use for passive solar
heat. Could also double as a greenhouse. This seems like a major project
(financially) but then I could start intending it and believing it's
possible. You have given me a good idea, though, I could start doing things
like this in smaller ways. Not that Vermont has all that much sun (compared
to some places like Arizona) but we do have sunny days. Even with snow on
the ground that helps in the reflection. I stand in the window on sunny
days, when it's cold and snowy out and feel the heat of the sun. Right
there, streaming in.
I am pretty much set up for losing power too. When it goes way below
zero in winter, you kind of have to be. I have a wood stove, and some
kerosene/oil lamps on hand. Used to have a gas stove but now have electric.
And the water (artesian well) runs on electric too, but runs for awhile via
gravity.
nogogo
2011-02-21 04:51:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate
what you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want
to spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am!
But I can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you
really are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with
you if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would
miss out on the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one
familiar with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!
And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.
We had a little one just before Yasi.
My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.
That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.
It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.
God Bless You Carrie.
~adu
I felt uplifted by joining in this. It was such an experience.
It was like being there (and all minds are joined, so in a way it
was). One person, after the power went out (in Townsville) went
out on the balcony with a camera (iphone or something) and was
showing the wind and rain, streaming it on the internet. These
were people who had stayed when told to evacuate. I believe the
joining (in safety and peace) really did help. At the same
time, I would put on USA TV
and not hear anything about it.
The Weather Channel sometimes mentioned it, the biggest cyclone in
history was going to "devastate" the coast of Australia. But, the
big story was the uprising and revolution in Egypt. That I paid
little attention to. What we give attention to (and how)
creates our "reality" in the
illusion.
Do you remember a book called, 'Prelude to landing on planet
earth'? where at the beginning these people were flying form
airport to airport to the 'hot spots' on the planet to meditated
and pray? Maybe it's sort of like that, but these days you can do
it with the internet. Amazing what these newfangled devices do
The local (Australian) ABC radio stations in cairns and Townsville
both battened down the hatches and kept on broadcasting all night.
Are they the ones that you were talking about in another thread
Carrie?
I never heard of that book I'll have to look for it.
It wasn't news people who stayed in Cairns and Townsville (that
had the live webcams and were talking on chats) it was "regular
people" who had decided to stay. I didn't see any coverage, or hear
another about it on our USA news. There's so much now "live on the
internet" just from web cams and iphones and such. One person had
no power and we filming from a balcony with a phone till the battery
died. There was also a radio station on (internet) from
Queensland, the whole time and people were calling in. Like saying
they were in their bathroom with mattresses on the walls, etc. One
couple were in their car in the driveway because the roof had blown
off their house.
yes, that's it, the radio stations were all we had to listen to
all night and for the next six days. I did see some great amateur
footage... after we got the power back on.
Some people did do it tough during this last one. And everyone
has their own pet theory as to the best way to ride out a cyclone.
But in the end, if your in a good spot, then it's just the luck
of the draw as to which way the dam things go.
But not having AC power is only and inconvenience to us really.
We have gas oven and stove top, solar hot water with gas backup,
and a whole bunch of solar lights. One for these days we'll get
an inverter and some batteries and a few solar panels, then to
hell with the power grid. (: I put in all the 240 volt wiring for
this place. I think I missed my calling. I should have been a
sparkie!
Valentines before last, I gave Chris some LED candles. They are
quite cute, because they flicker just like a real candle. I also
gave a whole mob to friends and family the following Xmas. The
amount of comments about how (a). romantic and (b). useful they
turned out to be during blackouts, has been quite astounding.
I find Cyclones are a bit like spending the night in the Police
lock-up. It's something that can be quite enjoyable if you have
the right attitude. But you wouldn't want to do it more than a
{{{Carrie}}}
That's a great idea. I would love to put in solar panels, or even build a
"sunporch" on the front of the house (faces south) to use for passive solar
heat. Could also double as a greenhouse. This seems like a major project
(financially) but then I could start intending it and believing it's
possible. You have given me a good idea, though, I could start doing things
like this in smaller ways. Not that Vermont has all that much sun (compared
to some places like Arizona) but we do have sunny days. Even with snow on
the ground that helps in the reflection. I stand in the window on sunny
days, when it's cold and snowy out and feel the heat of the sun. Right
there, streaming in.
I am pretty much set up for losing power too. When it goes way below
zero in winter, you kind of have to be. I have a wood stove, and some
kerosene/oil lamps on hand. Used to have a gas stove but now have electric.
And the water (artesian well) runs on electric too, but runs for awhile via
gravity.
Adrian says: OMGoodness Carrie! (:
Nope, tropical woos me! ((:
Most people do here, be we don't have a wood stove or pot belly.
I find that it doesn't really get that cold any more.

I just put on another layer of cloths. But I think eventually we
will do what you're talking about. Put a hot house on the sunny
side of the house.

There is a great design in Permaculture 1 or 2, by Bill Mollison
(sorry can't remember which). The hot house is built onto the
sunny side of the house (with a green/shade house on the cool
side), and has a pebble floor, which you stand on to have a shower.

The walls between the hot house and the house proper (shade side
too) have vents top and bottom.

You can either heat or cool the house for free, depending on which
vents you have open. Easy as.

The water from the shower goes straight into the grey water
system, and is recycled via an ever widening semicircle of ponds.
With firstly a mulch hay pit to collect the solids (sink goes into
the grey water system as well) about a meter cubed.

You change the hay once a week or so, using the old as mulch. Then
lots of ponds full of cannas and torch ginger (just beautiful!)
(which you cut down every few months and use for mulch), growing
in some of the earlier ponds of the filtration system. It goes on
from there to other non edible plant varieties.

House, Garden integration like this can be truly breath taking,
and amazingly functional.

I loved in a place were the 20 odd strong community built this off
the main house. In which at that stage of play, nearly all of us
live in. So the system had to work. A simply wonderful place to
have a bath! OMGoddess I miss PVC so so much!

Be at peace.
nogogo
2011-02-24 11:09:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
See what I mean? You can't help yourself. Look in a mirror, hate
what you see, call the mirror names and tell it to eat shit.
If you had actually read any of my posts you would know that I
actually agree with you on some points, But since you just want
to spew, go ahead. Shrug.
Naturally you think I'm an asshole for doing what you do. I am!
But I can see past your vomit to something wonderful that you
really are.
Can you write to me with civility? I'd be willing to engage with
you if you can. Otherwise you're plonked.
"Every act of will is a magical act." You know who wrote that?
\
Sidney has said he/she doesn't read the posts here.
Though seems like not reading responses to them, he/'she would
miss out on the payoffs.
I have come to the conclusiong that Sidney is a "she" and one
familiar with this group and those on it.
Got hungry and back to feed.
You know what Carrie, I think your right!
And on another note, 430mm of rain has fallen on Darwin in the
last 24 hours. 450 mm is close enough to 18" as to not make much
difference. It's only a cat 1, and will probably die in the arse
any moment, but it could be part of a bigger pattern.
We had a little one just before Yasi.
My partner's mum and brother and a few of my old friends live
there as well. Thing about Darwin is that it's so tropical that
everything grows so fast that all the trees are getting really
quite big. And all that shit turns into missiles in a cyclone.
That's also what takes so much work for us every time it looks
like one is going to come in. At least a couple of days battening
down the hatches, the whole cyclone drama and then the big clean
up afterwards. It all very wearing I can assure you.
It was nice of you to follow yasi through it's course, and think
of us. There are a lot of people who expound acim here, but I
reel that you really do do your best to actually live it.
God Bless You Carrie.
~adu
I felt uplifted by joining in this. It was such an experience.
It was like being there (and all minds are joined, so in a way it
was). One person, after the power went out (in Townsville) went
out on the balcony with a camera (iphone or something) and was
showing the wind and rain, streaming it on the internet. These
were people who had stayed when told to evacuate. I believe the
joining (in safety and peace) really did help. At the same
time, I would put on USA TV
and not hear anything about it.
The Weather Channel sometimes mentioned it, the biggest cyclone in
history was going to "devastate" the coast of Australia. But, the
big story was the uprising and revolution in Egypt. That I paid
little attention to. What we give attention to (and how)
creates our "reality" in the
illusion.
Do you remember a book called, 'Prelude to landing on planet
earth'? where at the beginning these people were flying form
airport to airport to the 'hot spots' on the planet to meditated
and pray? Maybe it's sort of like that, but these days you can do
it with the internet. Amazing what these newfangled devices do
The local (Australian) ABC radio stations in cairns and Townsville
both battened down the hatches and kept on broadcasting all night.
Are they the ones that you were talking about in another thread
Carrie?
I never heard of that book I'll have to look for it.
It wasn't news people who stayed in Cairns and Townsville (that
had the live webcams and were talking on chats) it was "regular
people" who had decided to stay. I didn't see any coverage, or hear
another about it on our USA news. There's so much now "live on the
internet" just from web cams and iphones and such. One person had
no power and we filming from a balcony with a phone till the battery
died. There was also a radio station on (internet) from
Queensland, the whole time and people were calling in. Like saying
they were in their bathroom with mattresses on the walls, etc. One
couple were in their car in the driveway because the roof had blown
off their house.
yes, that's it, the radio stations were all we had to listen to
all night and for the next six days. I did see some great amateur
footage... after we got the power back on.
Some people did do it tough during this last one. And everyone
has their own pet theory as to the best way to ride out a cyclone.
But in the end, if your in a good spot, then it's just the luck
of the draw as to which way the dam things go.
But not having AC power is only and inconvenience to us really.
We have gas oven and stove top, solar hot water with gas backup,
and a whole bunch of solar lights. One for these days we'll get
an inverter and some batteries and a few solar panels, then to
hell with the power grid. (: I put in all the 240 volt wiring for
this place. I think I missed my calling. I should have been a
sparkie!
Valentines before last, I gave Chris some LED candles. They are
quite cute, because they flicker just like a real candle. I also
gave a whole mob to friends and family the following Xmas. The
amount of comments about how (a). romantic and (b). useful they
turned out to be during blackouts, has been quite astounding.
I find Cyclones are a bit like spending the night in the Police
lock-up. It's something that can be quite enjoyable if you have
the right attitude. But you wouldn't want to do it more than a
{{{Carrie}}}
That's a great idea. I would love to put in solar panels, or even
build a "sunporch" on the front of the house (faces south) to use for
passive solar heat. Could also double as a greenhouse. This seems like
a major project (financially) but then I could start intending it and
believing it's possible. You have given me a good idea, though, I
could start doing things like this in smaller ways. Not that Vermont
has all that much sun (compared to some places like Arizona) but we do
have sunny days. Even with snow on the ground that helps in the
reflection. I stand in the window on sunny days, when it's cold and
snowy out and feel the heat of the sun. Right there, streaming in.
I am pretty much set up for losing power too. When it goes way
below zero in winter, you kind of have to be. I have a wood stove,
and some kerosene/oil lamps on hand. Used to have a gas stove but now
have electric. And the water (artesian well) runs on electric too, but
runs for awhile via gravity.
Most people do here, be we don't have a wood stove or pot belly. I find
that it doesn't really get that cold any more.
I just put on another layer of cloths. But I think eventually we will
do what you're talking about. Put a hot house on the sunny side of the
house.
There is a great design in Permaculture 1 or 2, by Bill Mollison (sorry
can't remember which). The hot house is built onto the sunny side of
the house (with a green/shade house on the cool side), and has a pebble
floor, which you stand on to have a shower.
The walls between the hot house and the house proper (shade side too)
have vents top and bottom.
You can either heat or cool the house for free, depending on which vents
you have open. Easy as.
The water from the shower goes straight into the grey water system, and
is recycled via an ever widening semicircle of ponds. With firstly a
mulch hay pit to collect the solids (sink goes into the grey water
system as well) about a meter cubed.
You change the hay once a week or so, using the old as mulch. Then lots
of ponds full of cannas and torch ginger (just beautiful!) (which you
cut down every few months and use for mulch), growing in some of the
earlier ponds of the filtration system. It goes on from there to other
non edible plant varieties.
House, Garden integration like this can be truly breath taking, and
amazingly functional.
I loved
Ed.
Did you like my Freudian Typo? :))
Should have been 'lived'.
~adu

in a place were the 20 odd strong community built this off the
main house. In which at that stage of play, nearly all of us live in.
So the system had to work. A simply wonderful place to have a bath!
OMGoddess I miss PVC so so much!
Be at peace.
Carrie
2011-02-24 16:10:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Most people do here, be we don't have a wood stove or pot belly. I
find that it doesn't really get that cold any more.
I just put on another layer of cloths. But I think eventually we
will do what you're talking about. Put a hot house on the sunny
side of the house.
There is a great design in Permaculture 1 or 2, by Bill Mollison
(sorry can't remember which). The hot house is built onto the sunny
side of the house (with a green/shade house on the cool side), and
has a pebble floor, which you stand on to have a shower.
The walls between the hot house and the house proper (shade side too)
have vents top and bottom.
You can either heat or cool the house for free, depending on which
vents you have open. Easy as.
The water from the shower goes straight into the grey water system,
and is recycled via an ever widening semicircle of ponds. With
firstly a mulch hay pit to collect the solids (sink goes into the
grey water system as well) about a meter cubed.
You change the hay once a week or so, using the old as mulch. Then
lots of ponds full of cannas and torch ginger (just beautiful!)
(which you cut down every few months and use for mulch), growing in
some of the earlier ponds of the filtration system. It goes on from
there to other non edible plant varieties.
House, Garden integration like this can be truly breath taking, and
amazingly functional.
I loved
Ed.
Did you like my Freudian Typo? :))
Should have been 'lived'.
~adu
in a place were the 20 odd strong community built this off the
main house. In which at that stage of play, nearly all of us live
in. So the system had to work. A simply wonderful place to have a
bath! OMGoddess I miss PVC so so much!
Be at peace.
I love reading about your solar heat/cooling and renewable home. This is
something I would love to do (at least the "sunporch" on the sunny side of
the house) I guess doing this is where the "miracle" would come in. I could
be looking into it (online) and finding out what I'd need and buying one
thing a month, and at some point, it would all come together and be done.
So easy to slip into the feeling of "powerlessness" and I can't do
something (on my own)
nogogo
2011-02-27 10:01:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Most people do here, be we don't have a wood stove or pot belly. I
find that it doesn't really get that cold any more.
I just put on another layer of cloths. But I think eventually we
will do what you're talking about. Put a hot house on the sunny
side of the house.
There is a great design in Permaculture 1 or 2, by Bill Mollison
(sorry can't remember which). The hot house is built onto the sunny
side of the house (with a green/shade house on the cool side), and
has a pebble floor, which you stand on to have a shower.
The walls between the hot house and the house proper (shade side too)
have vents top and bottom.
You can either heat or cool the house for free, depending on which
vents you have open. Easy as.
The water from the shower goes straight into the grey water system,
and is recycled via an ever widening semicircle of ponds. With
firstly a mulch hay pit to collect the solids (sink goes into the
grey water system as well) about a meter cubed.
You change the hay once a week or so, using the old as mulch. Then
lots of ponds full of cannas and torch ginger (just beautiful!)
(which you cut down every few months and use for mulch), growing in
some of the earlier ponds of the filtration system. It goes on from
there to other non edible plant varieties.
House, Garden integration like this can be truly breath taking, and
amazingly functional.
I loved
Ed.
Did you like my Freudian Typo? :))
Should have been 'lived'.
~adu
in a place were the 20 odd strong community built this off the
main house. In which at that stage of play, nearly all of us live
in. So the system had to work. A simply wonderful place to have a
bath! OMGoddess I miss PVC so so much!
Be at peace.
I love reading about your solar heat/cooling and renewable home. This is
something I would love to do (at least the "sunporch" on the sunny side of
the house) I guess doing this is where the "miracle" would come in. I could
be looking into it (online) and finding out what I'd need and buying one
thing a month, and at some point, it would all come together and be done.
So easy to slip into the feeling of "powerlessness" and I can't do
something (on my own)
it is isn't it. i slide into procrastination very easily. it's
better to have someone to work with. it's a lot easier to get
motivated. but if i don't do it alone, it doesn't get done. well
when it comes to building anyway. Chris is a mad keen gardener.
and she loves mowing. go figure (:
Carrie
2011-02-27 13:09:59 UTC
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Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Most people do here, be we don't have a wood stove or pot belly. I
find that it doesn't really get that cold any more.
I just put on another layer of cloths. But I think eventually we
will do what you're talking about. Put a hot house on the sunny
side of the house.
There is a great design in Permaculture 1 or 2, by Bill Mollison
(sorry can't remember which). The hot house is built onto the
sunny side of the house (with a green/shade house on the cool
side), and has a pebble floor, which you stand on to have a shower.
The walls between the hot house and the house proper (shade side
too) have vents top and bottom.
You can either heat or cool the house for free, depending on which
vents you have open. Easy as.
The water from the shower goes straight into the grey water system,
and is recycled via an ever widening semicircle of ponds. With
firstly a mulch hay pit to collect the solids (sink goes into the
grey water system as well) about a meter cubed.
You change the hay once a week or so, using the old as mulch. Then
lots of ponds full of cannas and torch ginger (just beautiful!)
(which you cut down every few months and use for mulch), growing in
some of the earlier ponds of the filtration system. It goes on from
there to other non edible plant varieties.
House, Garden integration like this can be truly breath taking, and
amazingly functional.
I loved
Ed.
Did you like my Freudian Typo? :))
Should have been 'lived'.
~adu
in a place were the 20 odd strong community built this off the
main house. In which at that stage of play, nearly all of us live
in. So the system had to work. A simply wonderful place to have a
bath! OMGoddess I miss PVC so so much!
Be at peace.
I love reading about your solar heat/cooling and renewable home.
This is something I would love to do (at least the "sunporch" on the
sunny side of the house) I guess doing this is where the "miracle"
would come in. I could be looking into it (online) and finding out
what I'd need and buying one thing a month, and at some point, it
would all come together and be done. So easy to slip into the
feeling of "powerlessness" and I can't do something (on my own)
it is isn't it. i slide into procrastination very easily. it's
better to have someone to work with. it's a lot easier to get
motivated. but if i don't do it alone, it doesn't get done. well
when it comes to building anyway. Chris is a mad keen gardener.
One of my daughters loves to mow lawns too. She likes the exercise out
in the fresh air and sun. Maybe the satisfaction of getting it done and
looking neat.
Sidney Lambe
2011-02-04 11:42:40 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
The stupid troll actually thinks I am going to
engage in a running verbal war with him.
Stephen? I'm here. If you don't like it you can
eat shit.
Your own, little boy.
I have yet to meet anyone, on the Net or in the
real world, who is a student of ACIM, who isn't
an asshole.
I repeat, Stephen: Eat shit.
Poor little troll. I won't allow the snivelling
punk to open his anus mouth in my presence, and
the headsick loser is having a fit.

ROTFLMAO.

ACIM produces human scum.
--
Sidney Lambe (Evergreen)
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
I am a Magickal Being - My Second Spell is Innocence
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
Stephen
2011-02-04 12:18:02 UTC
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Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Carrie
2011-02-04 13:16:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group, why do people decide they have
given someone "enough" and plonk them but tell them this first?
Why not just do it?
John Radgosky
2011-02-04 20:42:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
 Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
 Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering advice
where it is not asked for.

This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.

First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.

Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.

I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.

But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's the
case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up, look even
more so. Ego's heaven.

JR
Carrie
2011-02-05 21:55:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Radgosky
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk them
but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering advice
where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's the
case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up, look even
more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still seeing me
the same way.
HappyD
2011-02-06 06:28:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit.  That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk them
but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering advice
where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them.  No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards.   Which matters little if that's the
case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up, look even
more so.  Ego's heaven.
JR
  I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still seeing me
the same way.
Happy:D

Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.

It will help us very much feel love towards you.

Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.


That is all for now.

LOL
Carrie
2011-02-06 13:36:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk
them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering advice
where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's the
case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up, look
even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still
seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
Thanks, a list would be helpful. I've asked for specifics before, but never
really got anything.
It would be interesting to see, if I did follow the list the way some seem
to want it, if they would be happy and stop pointing out my faults? Why
would how I am (or anyone is) be required for someone else's happiness and
peace of mind?
I guess they are trying to help me. To fit in. Letting me know what "the
game" is, even though it seems to change on a regular basis.
Not that this has to disturb my peace. It's just kind of curious.
Like how a topic can be started (ACIM or otherwise) and at some point it
usually turns into being about me, as a person. I must be a great teacher.
Sidney Lambe
2011-02-06 14:24:22 UTC
Permalink
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and
plonk them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what
"people" decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and
offering advice where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see
them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things
DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if
that's the case , becuase it would only make what is already
messed up, look even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and
still seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could
have conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent
on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
Thanks, a list would be helpful. I've asked for specifics
before, but never really got anything. It would be interesting
to see, if I did follow the list the way some seem to want it,
if they would be happy and stop pointing out my faults? Why
would how I am (or anyone is) be required for someone else's
happiness and peace of mind? I guess they are trying to help
me. To fit in. Letting me know what "the game" is, even though
it seems to change on a regular basis. Not that this has to
disturb my peace. It's just kind of curious. Like how a topic
can be started (ACIM or otherwise) and at some point it usually
turns into being about me, as a person. I must be a great
teacher.
Carrie? These wannabe gurus will never be happy until you submit
to them totally. That's the only thing they are really interested
in.

These are VILE people.

You really should tell them to shove that list up their facist
asses.
--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Magickal Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
Carrie
2011-02-06 15:40:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and
plonk them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what
"people" decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and
offering advice where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things
DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if
that's the case , becuase it would only make what is already
messed up, look even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and
still seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could
have conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent
on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
Thanks, a list would be helpful. I've asked for specifics
before, but never really got anything. It would be interesting
to see, if I did follow the list the way some seem to want it,
if they would be happy and stop pointing out my faults? Why
would how I am (or anyone is) be required for someone else's
happiness and peace of mind? I guess they are trying to help
me. To fit in. Letting me know what "the game" is, even though
it seems to change on a regular basis. Not that this has to
disturb my peace. It's just kind of curious. Like how a topic
can be started (ACIM or otherwise) and at some point it usually
turns into being about me, as a person. I must be a great
teacher.
Carrie? These wannabe gurus will never be happy until you submit
to them totally. That's the only thing they are really interested
in.
These are VILE people.
You really should tell them to shove that list up their facist
asses.
I don't really care what they do. I'm not out to change anyone.
I am still free to make my own choices. Isn't that how it should be?
HappyD
2011-02-06 17:05:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk
them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering advice
where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's the
case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up, look
even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still
seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
 Thanks, a list would be helpful. I've asked for specifics before, but never
really got anything.
  It would be interesting to see, if I did follow the list the way some seem
to want it, if they would be happy and stop pointing out my faults? Why
would how I am (or anyone is) be required for someone else's happiness and
peace of mind?
   I guess they are trying to help me. To fit in. Letting me know what "the
game" is, even though it seems to change on a regular basis.
   Not that this has to disturb my peace. It's just kind of curious.
   Like how a topic can be started (ACIM or otherwise) and at some point it
usually turns into being about me, as a person. I must be a great teacher.
Happy:D

Usually the list is kept in my mind and your are supposed to guess at
what it is on a daily basis. I'll let you know if you are getting it
wrong as we go along. Are you game? We can call this game "how I
became the last enlightened person on the planet" it starts and ends
with me arranging all of the figures in my drama so I will be happy.
Then when this happens I can be enlightened...right?

LOL
nogogo
2011-02-16 13:00:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk
them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering advice
where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's the
case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up, look
even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still
seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
Thanks, a list would be helpful. I've asked for specifics before, but never
really got anything.
It would be interesting to see, if I did follow the list the way some seem
to want it, if they would be happy and stop pointing out my faults? Why
would how I am (or anyone is) be required for someone else's happiness and
peace of mind?
I guess they are trying to help me. To fit in. Letting me know what "the
game" is, even though it seems to change on a regular basis.
Not that this has to disturb my peace. It's just kind of curious.
Like how a topic can be started (ACIM or otherwise) and at some point it
usually turns into being about me, as a person. I must be a great teacher.
Hay Carrie, I think it's because your a great typer!

You put so much out there, that it's hard for someone sometime not
to take up some point or other with it.

I've always wondered stuff like that myself. But I'm a bit of a
dumb blond! (: I tend both wear my heart on my sleeve and to take
people at their word. And I know I will be disappointed but I
expect to be extended the same courtesy.

Oh well... (:
Carrie
2011-02-16 13:49:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk
them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering
advice where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's
the case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up,
look even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still
seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
Thanks, a list would be helpful. I've asked for specifics before,
but never really got anything.
It would be interesting to see, if I did follow the list the way
some seem to want it, if they would be happy and stop pointing out
my faults? Why would how I am (or anyone is) be required for someone
else's happiness and peace of mind?
I guess they are trying to help me. To fit in. Letting me know
what "the game" is, even though it seems to change on a regular
basis. Not that this has to disturb my peace. It's just kind of
curious. Like how a topic can be started (ACIM or otherwise) and
at some point it usually turns into being about me, as a person. I
must be a great teacher.
Hay Carrie, I think it's because your a great typer!
You put so much out there, that it's hard for someone sometime not
to take up some point or other with it.
I've always wondered stuff like that myself. But I'm a bit of a
dumb blond! (: I tend both wear my heart on my sleeve and to take
people at their word. And I know I will be disappointed but I
expect to be extended the same courtesy.
\
Yes, I can type fast (I usually have other things going on I want to do,
too) and I'm a Sagittarius...
nogogo
2011-02-16 12:47:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by John Radgosky
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk them
but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering advice
where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's the
case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up, look even
more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still seeing me
the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
LOLOL!!!
nice one!
Carrie
2011-02-16 13:48:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by John Radgosky
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk
them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering
advice where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's
the case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up,
look even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still
seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
LOLOL!!!
nice one!
I have tried to change. It seems like being more peaceful (and silent)
would work better. It might feel better, being more centered and detached
from ego stuff. I have made progress in this.
On the other hand, maybe how I seem to be (to others on groups) might be a
good chance for THEM to practie and see me in a different way?
We are all teachers/students to and for each other...
It's all good.
nogogo
2011-02-18 08:44:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Post by John Radgosky
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
Troll. I've given you enough. Plonk.
Just for discussion on a discussion group,
Bullshit. That's the set up for the passive aggresiveness to follow.
Post by Carrie
why do people decide they have given someone "enough" and plonk
them but tell them this first?
For the very same reason you concern yourself with what "people"
decide to do.
Post by Carrie
Why not just do it?
Followed swiflty by sticking your own nose in it and offering
advice where it is not asked for.
This is a most interersting shifting sands pattern.
First, you vehemently offer that things are as you (we) see them.
Then you state things ARE as you see them. No wiggle room.
I thought the whole point was to try and see things DIFFERENTLY.
But, maybe I've got it backwards. Which matters little if that's
the case , becuase it would only make what is already messed up,
look even more so. Ego's heaven.
JR
I am seeing things differently. Apparently you aren't,and still
seeing me the same way.
Happy:D
Please change Carrie, so we can all be happy.
It will help us very much feel love towards you.
Our list of things will follow. Be prepared this list could have
conflicting demands and change on a daily basis dependent on need.
That is all for now.
LOL
LOLOL!!!
nice one!
I have tried to change. It seems like being more peaceful (and silent)
would work better. It might feel better, being more centered and detached
from ego stuff. I have made progress in this.
On the other hand, maybe how I seem to be (to others on groups) might be a
good chance for THEM to practie and see me in a different way?
We are all teachers/students to and for each other...
It's all good.
Dearest Carrie. I don't think that's what happy is saying at
all. It's not up to you to change, it's up to them to change the
way they see you.

How could you ever change enough to make everyone happy all the
time, and keep changing all the time to keep up with their ever
changing expectations. Not even remotely possible.

Happy is taking the piss as we say. But not out of you, if I read
correctly. Happy is just pointing out just how bloody ridiculous
it is.

Well... that's my take on Happy's post. I did really LOL! because
happy just nailed it.

hay anyway darl... don't change! (:


INXS:
"Don't Change"

I'm standing here on the ground
The sky above won't fall down
See no evil in all direction
Resolution of happiness
Things have been dark
For too long

Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me

I found a love I had lost
It was gone for too long
Hear no evil in all directions
Execution of bitterness
Message received loud and clear

Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me

I'm standing here on the ground
The sky above won't fall down
See no evil in all directions
Resolution of happiness
Things have been dark for too long

Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me
Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me
Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me

~adu~
Sidney Lambe
2011-02-04 12:48:30 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
The stupid troll actually thinks I am going to
engage in a running verbal war with him.
Stephen? I'm here. If you don't like it you can
eat shit.
Your own, little boy.
I have yet to meet anyone, on the Net or in the
real world, who is a student of ACIM, who isn't
an asshole.
I repeat, Stephen: Eat shit.
Poor little troll. I won't allow the snivelling
punk to open his anus mouth in my presence, and
the headsick loser is having a fit.
ROTFLMAO.
ACIM produces human scum.
You are commanded to keep your bowel mouth shut
when you are in my space.

And you have no choice in the matter.

If you could do any miracles, making me read
your digital diarrhea would be childsplay.

ACIM is a garbage document. Fundamental
Christianity in a New-Age disguise.

"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
--
Sidney Lambe (Evergreen)
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
I am a Magickal Being - My Second Spell is Innocence
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
nogogo
2011-02-16 13:26:47 UTC
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Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality. So
that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series just
recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.

And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.

Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus is
the chosen one, the Christ.'

The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.

The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and drowns
planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and brown rice.

At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible to
do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of what
that must be like.

I just about fucking melt!

"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter

Remain In uncontrollable light.

~adu
Carrie
2011-02-16 17:19:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality. So
that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series just
recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.
And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.
Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus is
the chosen one, the Christ.'
The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.
The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and drowns
planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and brown rice.
At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible to
do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of what
that must be like.
I just about fucking melt!
"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter
Remain In uncontrollable light.
~adu
Check on YouTube for Abraham-Hicks and listen to a few of those. They
make so much sense, and (to me) aren't contradictory to ACIM.
You should hear what Abraham says about the bible (LOL) Like, you can't
even get 12 people together NOW and have them agree on something that
happened, and even if you could and the bible is totally true, it's still so
old it doesn't apply to anything now.
Maybe the overall message from Jesus, he tried to teach people (and
was an example of) (that is me saying this, not Abraham)
I think people get good and comfort, wisdom, etc from the bible not by
what is written in it, but just the book itself (or thought of it) and
joining3 with all the others who also feel the same way. The book itself is
only a "vehicle" for the thoughts, feelings, joining of minds.
I have read some in the Seth books. Someone once sent me one of the
Oversoul books and either I didn't understand it or wasn't in the right
place for it, but I didn't think it was so great. Didn't really like it or
"get" it. If I rememer right, it seemed like a lot of words and what was
the point?
But then I didn't like/get "The Celestine Prophecy" (couldn't get past
the terrible writing for one thing) and what was the one by the Johnathan
Livingston Seagull author? Think his name is Bachman.
Just different teachers.
Sometimes I start reading or hearing a teacher and right off it
clashes with my "is this aligned with what ACIM says?" When someone startts
talking about physical ailments and making them real and then "healing" them
in some way. For one thing. Not saying Seth does this.
nogogo
2011-02-18 09:01:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality. So
that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series just
recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.
And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.
Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus is
the chosen one, the Christ.'
The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.
The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and drowns
planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and brown rice.
At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible to
do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of what
that must be like.
I just about fucking melt!
"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter
Remain In uncontrollable light.
~adu
Check on YouTube for Abraham-Hicks and listen to a few of those. They
make so much sense, and (to me) aren't contradictory to ACIM.
You should hear what Abraham says about the bible (LOL) Like, you can't
even get 12 people together NOW and have them agree on something that
happened, and even if you could and the bible is totally true, it's still so
old it doesn't apply to anything now.
Maybe the overall message from Jesus, he tried to teach people (and
was an example of) (that is me saying this, not Abraham)
I think people get good and comfort, wisdom, etc from the bible not by
what is written in it, but just the book itself (or thought of it) and
joining3 with all the others who also feel the same way. The book itself is
only a "vehicle" for the thoughts, feelings, joining of minds.
I have read some in the Seth books. Someone once sent me one of the
Oversoul books and either I didn't understand it or wasn't in the right
place for it, but I didn't think it was so great. Didn't really like it or
"get" it. If I rememer right, it seemed like a lot of words and what was
the point?
But then I didn't like/get "The Celestine Prophecy" (couldn't get past
the terrible writing for one thing) and what was the one by the Johnathan
Livingston Seagull author? Think his name is Bachman.
Just different teachers.
Sometimes I start reading or hearing a teacher and right off it
clashes with my "is this aligned with what ACIM says?" When someone startts
talking about physical ailments and making them real and then "healing" them
in some way. For one thing. Not saying Seth does this.
I definitly will have a look for Abraham-Hicks, thanks for the tip
Carrie.

I quit enjoyed "The Celestine Prophecy", the writing was terrible
though, you're quite right. But I really did love "Illusions: The
adventures of a reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach. Couldn't
count how many times over the years I've actually read it.

And also since reading that book, felt that ACIM is the Hessiah's
Handbook.

love it.
Carrie
2011-02-18 13:27:24 UTC
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Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality. So
that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series just
recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.
And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.
Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus is
the chosen one, the Christ.'
The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.
The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and drowns
planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and brown rice.
At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible to
do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of what
that must be like.
I just about fucking melt!
"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter
Remain In uncontrollable light.
~adu
Check on YouTube for Abraham-Hicks and listen to a few of
those. They make so much sense, and (to me) aren't contradictory to
ACIM. You should hear what Abraham says about the bible (LOL)
Like, you can't even get 12 people together NOW and have them agree
on something that happened, and even if you could and the bible is
totally true, it's still so old it doesn't apply to anything now.
Maybe the overall message from Jesus, he tried to teach people
(and was an example of) (that is me saying this, not Abraham)
I think people get good and comfort, wisdom, etc from the
bible not by what is written in it, but just the book itself (or
thought of it) and joining3 with all the others who also feel the
same way. The book itself is only a "vehicle" for the thoughts,
feelings, joining of minds. I have read some in the Seth
books. Someone once sent me one of the Oversoul books and either I
didn't understand it or wasn't in the right place for it, but I
didn't think it was so great. Didn't really like it or "get" it. If
I rememer right, it seemed like a lot of words and what was the
point? But then I didn't like/get "The Celestine Prophecy"
(couldn't get past
the terrible writing for one thing) and what was the one by the
Johnathan Livingston Seagull author? Think his name is Bachman.
Just different teachers.
Sometimes I start reading or hearing a teacher and right off it
clashes with my "is this aligned with what ACIM says?" When someone
startts talking about physical ailments and making them real and
then "healing" them in some way. For one thing. Not saying Seth does
this.
I definitly will have a look for Abraham-Hicks, thanks for the tip
Carrie.
I quit enjoyed "The Celestine Prophecy", the writing was terrible
though, you're quite right. But I really did love "Illusions: The
adventures of a reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach. Couldn't
count how many times over the years I've actually read it.
And also since reading that book, felt that ACIM is the Hessiah's
Handbook.
love it.
What I finally did with The Celestine Prophecy was take notes from it,
like the prophecies, and such. Not trying to follow it asa story. There's a
movie of it, too, I once read thinking it might be better but it wasn't.
Same with Gary Renard's "Disappearance of the Universe". My mind tries
to make sense of the story itself or something. At that start of that book I
had questions (about the overall setting, and Gary's reaction and him not
telling his wife, etc. In the book) Since he was writing on their ng and his
own group at the time I aske him, and he reacted from defense, like I was
attacking him. Even though Gary had sent me the book, himself and said to
read it and if I had any questions to ask. I think that got in the way of
how I might have felt, otherwise about the book. I need to have something
be somewhat believeable, too, I guess. Like if I had visitors in form for 8
years that appeared and disppeared in front of me and said I could (and
would be able to) photograph them, I think I would have, at least once. Same
with him casualy saying at the end he destroyed all the tapes he said he had
made of them (audio).
Whether he did or not or really made them (as he swore he did) it just
didn't make sense to me.
The real story with that wasn't two people traveling around in time,
appearing in form and telling him about ACIM. It was the TWO PEOPLE
TRAVELING AROUND IN TIME APPEARING IN FORM! LOL
And he made little or nothing of this.
Of course, there are books/teachers for everyone.
I remember being on a waiting list at the library for Johnathan
Lingingston Seagull. And all it was (is) is the retelling of the story of
Jesus, as a bird.
nogogo
2011-02-19 06:44:17 UTC
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Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality. So
that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series just
recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.
And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.
Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus is
the chosen one, the Christ.'
The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.
The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and drowns
planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and brown rice.
At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible to
do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of what
that must be like.
I just about fucking melt!
"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter
Remain In uncontrollable light.
~adu
Check on YouTube for Abraham-Hicks and listen to a few of
those. They make so much sense, and (to me) aren't contradictory to
ACIM. You should hear what Abraham says about the bible (LOL)
Like, you can't even get 12 people together NOW and have them agree
on something that happened, and even if you could and the bible is
totally true, it's still so old it doesn't apply to anything now.
Maybe the overall message from Jesus, he tried to teach people
(and was an example of) (that is me saying this, not Abraham)
I think people get good and comfort, wisdom, etc from the
bible not by what is written in it, but just the book itself (or
thought of it) and joining3 with all the others who also feel the
same way. The book itself is only a "vehicle" for the thoughts,
feelings, joining of minds. I have read some in the Seth
books. Someone once sent me one of the Oversoul books and either I
didn't understand it or wasn't in the right place for it, but I
didn't think it was so great. Didn't really like it or "get" it. If
I rememer right, it seemed like a lot of words and what was the
point? But then I didn't like/get "The Celestine Prophecy"
(couldn't get past
the terrible writing for one thing) and what was the one by the
Johnathan Livingston Seagull author? Think his name is Bachman.
Just different teachers.
Sometimes I start reading or hearing a teacher and right off it
clashes with my "is this aligned with what ACIM says?" When someone
startts talking about physical ailments and making them real and
then "healing" them in some way. For one thing. Not saying Seth does
this.
I definitly will have a look for Abraham-Hicks, thanks for the tip
Carrie.
I quit enjoyed "The Celestine Prophecy", the writing was terrible
though, you're quite right. But I really did love "Illusions: The
adventures of a reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach. Couldn't
count how many times over the years I've actually read it.
And also since reading that book, felt that ACIM is the Hessiah's
Handbook.
love it.
What I finally did with The Celestine Prophecy was take notes from it,
like the prophecies, and such. Not trying to follow it asa story. There's a
movie of it, too, I once read thinking it might be better but it wasn't.
Same with Gary Renard's "Disappearance of the Universe". My mind tries
to make sense of the story itself or something. At that start of that book I
had questions (about the overall setting, and Gary's reaction and him not
telling his wife, etc. In the book) Since he was writing on their ng and his
own group at the time I aske him, and he reacted from defense, like I was
attacking him. Even though Gary had sent me the book, himself and said to
read it and if I had any questions to ask. I think that got in the way of
how I might have felt, otherwise about the book. I need to have something
be somewhat believeable, too, I guess. Like if I had visitors in form for 8
years that appeared and disppeared in front of me and said I could (and
would be able to) photograph them, I think I would have, at least once. Same
with him casualy saying at the end he destroyed all the tapes he said he had
made of them (audio).
Whether he did or not or really made them (as he swore he did) it just
didn't make sense to me.
The real story with that wasn't two people traveling around in time,
appearing in form and telling him about ACIM. It was the TWO PEOPLE
TRAVELING AROUND IN TIME APPEARING IN FORM! LOL
And he made little or nothing of this.
Of course, there are books/teachers for everyone.
I remember being on a waiting list at the library for Johnathan
Lingingston Seagull. And all it was (is) is the retelling of the story of
Jesus, as a bird.
Yet the beauty of JLS is in the fact that bird is so accessible to
the average person. Making it easy to feel that such a miracle
could happen in real life, and to YOU.

Same as 'Illusions'. Just beautiful, and a life long inspiration.

I never read Disappearance', but I do remember everyone here who
did reading it and talking about it.

His wife coming onto trcm pretending to be someone else,
defending him. Then getting busted! lmao! It really was all
a bit of a laugh. Just because we take the words of a channelled
book seriously, they think we are as gullible and stupid as the
4ucking sciencetologists! Nice one GR!

My impression was that he had slowly became more and more liberal
with the truth. There are many devices an author can use in such
situations but out right lying is a bit beyond the pale. I get
the feeling that he wrote it as fiction, then at some point
decided that since it was about acim, he had licence to tell
everyone it was real and he actually had beings come and
talk to him in rl. What a twat! (: And anyway, a little
controversy never hurt book sales one little bit.

I mean really, even if acim was entirely made up by Helen & Bill,
it's still an amazing literary work. Thousands of pages, a lot of
which is in iambic pentameter! Beautifully written in a style
that befits a god. Filled with more gems of wisdom than you could
poke ten sticks at. I could go on for pages about all the
incredible things about acim. Hell, we all could! Even the trcm
trolls if they were honest could. Even if it's only the
astonishing number of dickheads that believe it. ((:

Just look at the vitality and longevity of this news group. It's
quit incredible really. All these years and it's still going
strong. I remember someone here used to post the number of posts
to trcm each month. One month we topped 10k posts! lol! Usenet
is a cyber grave yard, littered with dead newsgroups, dedicated to
this book of that, or some other silly smeg no one can remember.

At lest in 'CwG' the reader is only asked to believe in a voice in
his head. A much more realistically believable, and less
contrives device in any respect.

cheers sista (:
Carrie
2011-02-19 15:48:05 UTC
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Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Sidney Lambe
"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality. So
that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series just
recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.
And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.
Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus is
the chosen one, the Christ.'
The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.
The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and drowns
planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and brown rice.
At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible to
do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of what
that must be like.
I just about fucking melt!
"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter
Remain In uncontrollable light.
~adu
Check on YouTube for Abraham-Hicks and listen to a few of
those. They make so much sense, and (to me) aren't contradictory to
ACIM. You should hear what Abraham says about the bible (LOL)
Like, you can't even get 12 people together NOW and have them agree
on something that happened, and even if you could and the bible is
totally true, it's still so old it doesn't apply to anything now.
Maybe the overall message from Jesus, he tried to teach
people (and was an example of) (that is me saying this, not
Abraham) I think people get good and comfort, wisdom, etc
from the
bible not by what is written in it, but just the book itself (or
thought of it) and joining3 with all the others who also feel the
same way. The book itself is only a "vehicle" for the thoughts,
feelings, joining of minds. I have read some in the Seth
books. Someone once sent me one of the Oversoul books and either I
didn't understand it or wasn't in the right place for it, but I
didn't think it was so great. Didn't really like it or "get" it.
If I rememer right, it seemed like a lot of words and what was the
point? But then I didn't like/get "The Celestine Prophecy"
(couldn't get past
the terrible writing for one thing) and what was the one by the
Johnathan Livingston Seagull author? Think his name is Bachman.
Just different teachers.
Sometimes I start reading or hearing a teacher and right off
it clashes with my "is this aligned with what ACIM says?" When
someone startts talking about physical ailments and making them
real and then "healing" them in some way. For one thing. Not
saying Seth does this.
I definitly will have a look for Abraham-Hicks, thanks for the tip
Carrie.
I quit enjoyed "The Celestine Prophecy", the writing was terrible
though, you're quite right. But I really did love "Illusions: The
adventures of a reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach. Couldn't
count how many times over the years I've actually read it.
And also since reading that book, felt that ACIM is the Hessiah's
Handbook.
love it.
What I finally did with The Celestine Prophecy was take notes
from it, like the prophecies, and such. Not trying to follow it asa
story. There's a movie of it, too, I once read thinking it might be
better but it wasn't. Same with Gary Renard's "Disappearance of
the Universe". My mind tries
to make sense of the story itself or something. At that start of
that book I had questions (about the overall setting, and Gary's
reaction and him not telling his wife, etc. In the book) Since he
was writing on their ng and his own group at the time I aske him,
and he reacted from defense, like I was attacking him. Even though
Gary had sent me the book, himself and said to read it and if I had
any questions to ask. I think that got in the way of how I might
have felt, otherwise about the book. I need to have something be
somewhat believeable, too, I guess. Like if I had visitors in form
for 8 years that appeared and disppeared in front of me and said I
could (and would be able to) photograph them, I think I would have,
at least once. Same with him casualy saying at the end he destroyed
all the tapes he said he had made of them (audio). Whether he did
or not or really made them (as he swore he did) it just didn't make
sense to me. The real story with that wasn't two people
traveling around in time, appearing in form and telling him about
ACIM. It was the TWO PEOPLE TRAVELING AROUND IN TIME APPEARING IN
FORM! LOL And he made little or nothing of this.
Of course, there are books/teachers for everyone.
I remember being on a waiting list at the library for Johnathan
Lingingston Seagull. And all it was (is) is the retelling of the
story of Jesus, as a bird.
Yet the beauty of JLS is in the fact that bird is so accessible to
the average person. Making it easy to feel that such a miracle
could happen in real life, and to YOU.
Same as 'Illusions'. Just beautiful, and a life long inspiration.
I never read Disappearance', but I do remember everyone here who
did reading it and talking about it.
His wife coming onto trcm pretending to be someone else,
defending him. Then getting busted! lmao! It really was all
a bit of a laugh. Just because we take the words of a channelled
book seriously, they think we are as gullible and stupid as the
4ucking sciencetologists! Nice one GR!
My impression was that he had slowly became more and more liberal
with the truth. There are many devices an author can use in such
situations but out right lying is a bit beyond the pale. I get
the feeling that he wrote it as fiction, then at some point
decided that since it was about acim, he had licence to tell
everyone it was real and he actually had beings come and
talk to him in rl. What a twat! (: And anyway, a little
controversy never hurt book sales one little bit.
I mean really, even if acim was entirely made up by Helen & Bill,
it's still an amazing literary work. Thousands of pages, a lot of
which is in iambic pentameter! Beautifully written in a style
that befits a god. Filled with more gems of wisdom than you could
poke ten sticks at. I could go on for pages about all the
incredible things about acim. Hell, we all could! Even the trcm
trolls if they were honest could. Even if it's only the
Just look at the vitality and longevity of this news group. It's
quit incredible really. All these years and it's still going
strong. I remember someone here used to post the number of posts
to trcm each month. One month we topped 10k posts! lol! Usenet
is a cyber grave yard, littered with dead newsgroups, dedicated to
this book of that, or some other silly smeg no one can remember.
At lest in 'CwG' the reader is only asked to believe in a voice in
his head. A much more realistically believable, and less
contrives device in any respect.
Years later, Gary's wife left him, and I think he now has another one
(LOL) I once wrote this and was accused of spreading gossip, but the person
who told me had heard it from Gary (that his wife left him) during a
workshop. And he is (or would like to be) sort of a public figure. Celebrity
of sorts.
I didn't get along with him because he seemed so defensive and felt
questions (for real ones) were attack in need of defense. When he had a book
out about ACIM (and learning it) and setting himself up as an expert at
this.
One question I had, which kept me from getting into the book, was how
did his wife feel, ater 8 years, finding out he'd had this secret life going
on behind her back (when she was at work and he was sitting around at home)
he had hidden from her? He must have hidden the tape recorder (that came on,
voice activated, when the visitors appeared to him. He must have turned this
off other times, when his wife was home?) I would have felt lied to and
betrayed if I found this out (as a wife). And Gary got very angry at any
suggestion it DIDN'T happen as he said. And, as I said, the real story
wasn't the rerun version of ACIM the visitors claimed to teach him, with all
the quotes to ACIM and Ken Wapnick being deemd "the only real course
teacher" or whatever it was the visitors said. The real story was 2 bodies,
materializing in form and then fading away. Who told Gary he could take
pictures of them (they would show in them) but don't bother, because people
would just say he had actors dress up and took pictures of them... It was
brushed off like nothing.
Gary had such a flip attitude in it, too.
What I have noticed (and I'm sure there is a real reason I am missing) a
lot of the books that are written as fiction maybe shouldn't be. Like The
Celestine Prophecy would have been good, just writing about the insights and
not try to make a story out of it. (I remember the book, which all
publishers turned down and had to be self published, though ended up doing
good for Redfield) didn't have anything about the main charactor. Like what
did he look like, background about him, I never felt like I "knew" him. The
story broke all the rules of how to write a good book/story.
CWG was written as fiction, and maybe should have been otherwise. Like
something REAL that happened to him.
I'm not sure what Gary's book is, I think it is non fiction. He swore it
really happened.
I read JLS in 1973 or so, and remember it was good. Not saying it
wasn't. Just that it was the same story as Jesus, told about a bird.
I know, I don't have any books published, so who am I to say. Maybe the
point is to make money and get known.
In Gary's first book he said he would rather eat ground glass than get
up and speak in front of people. But, his real goal seemed to be just that.
To become a course speaker and accepted by the course community, even though
a lot didn't believe he was coming from the course (as they believed it)
There was that whole thing with Beverly Hutchinson from Miracle
Distribution Center, who wouldn't list his book because she didn't believe
it was a "legit" course book, and stuck to this. Gary and his group decided
that people were influencing her in a negative way (her ACIM book store is
the biggest and most profitible for books to be listed in) and started a
campaing for people to email her and pressure her to change her mind. I
don't know what happened with this, but she also refused to come on the
group and talk about it. She had made up her mind and felt peaceful about it
and was moving on. Gary later wrote another book and said in it (I didn't
read it but heard about it) Beverly hated him because he had killed her in
another lifetime. The book was about reincarnation, even though ACIM says
it's not really fact, and illusion like everything else.
I guess to each his own and there is a teacher for all, and some (like
Gary- and those others who seem to use ACIM in a material way (not to
mention any names because some- and their loyal supporters get mad if the
truth is pointed out (LOL) are in ou experience (those who are) to help US
(who observe them this way) learn.
No one comes into our lives by accident, and we're all teachers/students
to and for each other. Therapists, too LOL
nogogo
2011-02-20 01:56:04 UTC
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"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality. So
that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series just
recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.
And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.
Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus is
the chosen one, the Christ.'
The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.
The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and drowns
planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and brown rice.
At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible to
do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of what
that must be like.
I just about fucking melt!
"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter
Remain In uncontrollable light.
~adu
Check on YouTube for Abraham-Hicks and listen to a few of
those. They make so much sense, and (to me) aren't contradictory to
ACIM. You should hear what Abraham says about the bible (LOL)
Like, you can't even get 12 people together NOW and have them agree
on something that happened, and even if you could and the bible is
totally true, it's still so old it doesn't apply to anything now.
Maybe the overall message from Jesus, he tried to teach
people (and was an example of) (that is me saying this, not
Abraham) I think people get good and comfort, wisdom, etc
from the
bible not by what is written in it, but just the book itself (or
thought of it) and joining3 with all the others who also feel the
same way. The book itself is only a "vehicle" for the thoughts,
feelings, joining of minds. I have read some in the Seth
books. Someone once sent me one of the Oversoul books and either I
didn't understand it or wasn't in the right place for it, but I
didn't think it was so great. Didn't really like it or "get" it.
If I rememer right, it seemed like a lot of words and what was the
point? But then I didn't like/get "The Celestine Prophecy"
(couldn't get past
the terrible writing for one thing) and what was the one by the
Johnathan Livingston Seagull author? Think his name is Bachman.
Just different teachers.
Sometimes I start reading or hearing a teacher and right off
it clashes with my "is this aligned with what ACIM says?" When
someone startts talking about physical ailments and making them
real and then "healing" them in some way. For one thing. Not
saying Seth does this.
I definitly will have a look for Abraham-Hicks, thanks for the tip
Carrie.
I quit enjoyed "The Celestine Prophecy", the writing was terrible
though, you're quite right. But I really did love "Illusions: The
adventures of a reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach. Couldn't
count how many times over the years I've actually read it.
And also since reading that book, felt that ACIM is the Hessiah's
Handbook.
love it.
What I finally did with The Celestine Prophecy was take notes
from it, like the prophecies, and such. Not trying to follow it asa
story. There's a movie of it, too, I once read thinking it might be
better but it wasn't. Same with Gary Renard's "Disappearance of
the Universe". My mind tries
to make sense of the story itself or something. At that start of
that book I had questions (about the overall setting, and Gary's
reaction and him not telling his wife, etc. In the book) Since he
was writing on their ng and his own group at the time I aske him,
and he reacted from defense, like I was attacking him. Even though
Gary had sent me the book, himself and said to read it and if I had
any questions to ask. I think that got in the way of how I might
have felt, otherwise about the book. I need to have something be
somewhat believeable, too, I guess. Like if I had visitors in form
for 8 years that appeared and disppeared in front of me and said I
could (and would be able to) photograph them, I think I would have,
at least once. Same with him casualy saying at the end he destroyed
all the tapes he said he had made of them (audio). Whether he did
or not or really made them (as he swore he did) it just didn't make
sense to me. The real story with that wasn't two people
traveling around in time, appearing in form and telling him about
ACIM. It was the TWO PEOPLE TRAVELING AROUND IN TIME APPEARING IN
FORM! LOL And he made little or nothing of this.
Of course, there are books/teachers for everyone.
I remember being on a waiting list at the library for Johnathan
Lingingston Seagull. And all it was (is) is the retelling of the
story of Jesus, as a bird.
Yet the beauty of JLS is in the fact that bird is so accessible to
the average person. Making it easy to feel that such a miracle
could happen in real life, and to YOU.
Same as 'Illusions'. Just beautiful, and a life long inspiration.
I never read Disappearance', but I do remember everyone here who
did reading it and talking about it.
His wife coming onto trcm pretending to be someone else,
defending him. Then getting busted! lmao! It really was all
a bit of a laugh. Just because we take the words of a channelled
book seriously, they think we are as gullible and stupid as the
4ucking sciencetologists! Nice one GR!
My impression was that he had slowly became more and more liberal
with the truth. There are many devices an author can use in such
situations but out right lying is a bit beyond the pale. I get
the feeling that he wrote it as fiction, then at some point
decided that since it was about acim, he had licence to tell
everyone it was real and he actually had beings come and
talk to him in rl. What a twat! (: And anyway, a little
controversy never hurt book sales one little bit.
I mean really, even if acim was entirely made up by Helen & Bill,
it's still an amazing literary work. Thousands of pages, a lot of
which is in iambic pentameter! Beautifully written in a style
that befits a god. Filled with more gems of wisdom than you could
poke ten sticks at. I could go on for pages about all the
incredible things about acim. Hell, we all could! Even the trcm
trolls if they were honest could. Even if it's only the
Just look at the vitality and longevity of this news group. It's
quit incredible really. All these years and it's still going
strong. I remember someone here used to post the number of posts
to trcm each month. One month we topped 10k posts! lol! Usenet
is a cyber grave yard, littered with dead newsgroups, dedicated to
this book of that, or some other silly smeg no one can remember.
At lest in 'CwG' the reader is only asked to believe in a voice in
his head. A much more realistically believable, and less
contrives device in any respect.
Years later, Gary's wife left him, and I think he now has another one
(LOL) I once wrote this and was accused of spreading gossip, but the person
who told me had heard it from Gary (that his wife left him) during a
workshop. And he is (or would like to be) sort of a public figure. Celebrity
of sorts.
I didn't get along with him because he seemed so defensive and felt
questions (for real ones) were attack in need of defense. When he had a book
out about ACIM (and learning it) and setting himself up as an expert at
this.
One question I had, which kept me from getting into the book, was how
did his wife feel, ater 8 years, finding out he'd had this secret life going
on behind her back (when she was at work and he was sitting around at home)
he had hidden from her? He must have hidden the tape recorder (that came on,
voice activated, when the visitors appeared to him. He must have turned this
off other times, when his wife was home?) I would have felt lied to and
betrayed if I found this out (as a wife). And Gary got very angry at any
suggestion it DIDN'T happen as he said. And, as I said, the real story
wasn't the rerun version of ACIM the visitors claimed to teach him, with all
the quotes to ACIM and Ken Wapnick being deemd "the only real course
teacher" or whatever it was the visitors said. The real story was 2 bodies,
materializing in form and then fading away. Who told Gary he could take
pictures of them (they would show in them) but don't bother, because people
would just say he had actors dress up and took pictures of them... It was
brushed off like nothing.
Gary had such a flip attitude in it, too.
What I have noticed (and I'm sure there is a real reason I am missing) a
lot of the books that are written as fiction maybe shouldn't be. Like The
Celestine Prophecy would have been good, just writing about the insights and
not try to make a story out of it. (I remember the book, which all
publishers turned down and had to be self published, though ended up doing
good for Redfield) didn't have anything about the main charactor. Like what
did he look like, background about him, I never felt like I "knew" him. The
story broke all the rules of how to write a good book/story.
CWG was written as fiction, and maybe should have been otherwise. Like
something REAL that happened to him.
I'm not sure what Gary's book is, I think it is non fiction. He swore it
really happened.
I read JLS in 1973 or so, and remember it was good. Not saying it
wasn't. Just that it was the same story as Jesus, told about a bird.
I know, I don't have any books published, so who am I to say. Maybe the
point is to make money and get known.
In Gary's first book he said he would rather eat ground glass than get
up and speak in front of people. But, his real goal seemed to be just that.
To become a course speaker and accepted by the course community, even though
a lot didn't believe he was coming from the course (as they believed it)
There was that whole thing with Beverly Hutchinson from Miracle
Distribution Center, who wouldn't list his book because she didn't believe
it was a "legit" course book, and stuck to this. Gary and his group decided
that people were influencing her in a negative way (her ACIM book store is
the biggest and most profitible for books to be listed in) and started a
campaing for people to email her and pressure her to change her mind. I
don't know what happened with this, but she also refused to come on the
group and talk about it. She had made up her mind and felt peaceful about it
and was moving on. Gary later wrote another book and said in it (I didn't
read it but heard about it) Beverly hated him because he had killed her in
another lifetime. The book was about reincarnation, even though ACIM says
it's not really fact, and illusion like everything else.
I guess to each his own and there is a teacher for all, and some (like
Gary- and those others who seem to use ACIM in a material way (not to
mention any names because some- and their loyal supporters get mad if the
truth is pointed out (LOL) are in ou experience (those who are) to help US
(who observe them this way) learn.
No one comes into our lives by accident, and we're all teachers/students
to and for each other. Therapists, too LOL
Well I just feel that once GR had started down the track of
telling people it was for real, he felt he couldn't change his
story. I feel that if it had been published as fiction, it would
have been more widely accepted by the acim community.

Because as I said before, a voice in someone's head in one thing.
Entities materialising our of thin air is quit another.

One is channelled (:being a lot more believable, where do some
ideas come from, the ones that just pop into your head perfect and
complete?:), the other is so obviously Science Fiction, it's an
insult to be asked to believe it's real.

GR fancies himself another Ron L. bloody Hubbard. Hay, just look
how he thinks you should treat your wife! just like the 4ucking
sciencetologists. Keep them in the dark, and cover them in
bullshit (the mushroom treatment). Nar, screw him and his lies.
It's an insult to intelligence.

But each to their one. doh! ((:
Carrie
2011-02-20 03:28:33 UTC
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"The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane
Roberts is the real 'course in miracles'.
Whoha, She really nails it in the nature of personal reality.
So that's not far from the truth. I read The Oversoul 7 series
just recently. A bit slow in parts, but what a great story. It
brought a lot of her other work back to me as I read.
And what's the name of the dude she channels again? The gentle
brother was it, no, Seth! that's it!.
Sure Seth is amazing! But I still like acim as well. But for
different reasons. You won't be able to establish real rapport
with a Christine if you can't hold hand to heart and say 'Jesus
is the chosen one, the Christ.'
The problem I have with the bible is how it's so contradictory
between the old and new testaments.
The god of the OT is a jealous god who destroys cities and
drowns planets. But the god of the NT is all peace love and
brown rice.
At least acim is constant in as much as it teaches us to try at
least to see the face of Christ in everyone. It's not possible
to do it all the time, but from time to time I get a flash of
what that must be like.
I just about fucking melt!
"I'm almost dead with uncontrollable light, but sometimes when
I've written a song... It's alright!.
~Ian Hunter
Remain In uncontrollable light.
~adu
Check on YouTube for Abraham-Hicks and listen to a few of
those. They make so much sense, and (to me) aren't contradictory
to ACIM. You should hear what Abraham says about the bible
(LOL) Like, you can't even get 12 people together NOW and have
them agree on something that happened, and even if you could and
the bible is totally true, it's still so old it doesn't apply to
anything now. Maybe the overall message from Jesus, he
tried to teach
people (and was an example of) (that is me saying this, not
Abraham) I think people get good and comfort, wisdom, etc
from the
bible not by what is written in it, but just the book itself (or
thought of it) and joining3 with all the others who also feel the
same way. The book itself is only a "vehicle" for the thoughts,
feelings, joining of minds. I have read some in the Seth
books. Someone once sent me one of the Oversoul books and either
I didn't understand it or wasn't in the right place for it, but I
didn't think it was so great. Didn't really like it or "get" it.
If I rememer right, it seemed like a lot of words and what was
the point? But then I didn't like/get "The Celestine
Prophecy" (couldn't get past
the terrible writing for one thing) and what was the one by the
Johnathan Livingston Seagull author? Think his name is Bachman.
Just different teachers.
Sometimes I start reading or hearing a teacher and right
off it clashes with my "is this aligned with what ACIM says?"
When someone startts talking about physical ailments and making
them real and then "healing" them in some way. For one thing. Not
saying Seth does this.
I definitly will have a look for Abraham-Hicks, thanks for the tip
Carrie.
I quit enjoyed "The Celestine Prophecy", the writing was terrible
though, you're quite right. But I really did love "Illusions: The
adventures of a reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach. Couldn't
count how many times over the years I've actually read it.
And also since reading that book, felt that ACIM is the Hessiah's
Handbook.
love it.
What I finally did with The Celestine Prophecy was take notes
from it, like the prophecies, and such. Not trying to follow it asa
story. There's a movie of it, too, I once read thinking it might be
better but it wasn't. Same with Gary Renard's "Disappearance
of the Universe". My mind tries
to make sense of the story itself or something. At that start of
that book I had questions (about the overall setting, and Gary's
reaction and him not telling his wife, etc. In the book) Since he
was writing on their ng and his own group at the time I aske him,
and he reacted from defense, like I was attacking him. Even though
Gary had sent me the book, himself and said to read it and if I had
any questions to ask. I think that got in the way of how I might
have felt, otherwise about the book. I need to have something be
somewhat believeable, too, I guess. Like if I had visitors in form
for 8 years that appeared and disppeared in front of me and said I
could (and would be able to) photograph them, I think I would have,
at least once. Same with him casualy saying at the end he destroyed
all the tapes he said he had made of them (audio). Whether he
did or not or really made them (as he swore he did) it just didn't
make sense to me. The real story with that wasn't two people
traveling around in time, appearing in form and telling him about
ACIM. It was the TWO PEOPLE TRAVELING AROUND IN TIME APPEARING IN
FORM! LOL And he made little or nothing of this.
Of course, there are books/teachers for everyone.
I remember being on a waiting list at the library for
Johnathan Lingingston Seagull. And all it was (is) is the
retelling of the story of Jesus, as a bird.
Yet the beauty of JLS is in the fact that bird is so accessible to
the average person. Making it easy to feel that such a miracle
could happen in real life, and to YOU.
Same as 'Illusions'. Just beautiful, and a life long inspiration.
I never read Disappearance', but I do remember everyone here who
did reading it and talking about it.
His wife coming onto trcm pretending to be someone else,
defending him. Then getting busted! lmao! It really was all
a bit of a laugh. Just because we take the words of a channelled
book seriously, they think we are as gullible and stupid as the
4ucking sciencetologists! Nice one GR!
My impression was that he had slowly became more and more liberal
with the truth. There are many devices an author can use in such
situations but out right lying is a bit beyond the pale. I get
the feeling that he wrote it as fiction, then at some point
decided that since it was about acim, he had licence to tell
everyone it was real and he actually had beings come and
talk to him in rl. What a twat! (: And anyway, a little
controversy never hurt book sales one little bit.
I mean really, even if acim was entirely made up by Helen & Bill,
it's still an amazing literary work. Thousands of pages, a lot of
which is in iambic pentameter! Beautifully written in a style
that befits a god. Filled with more gems of wisdom than you could
poke ten sticks at. I could go on for pages about all the
incredible things about acim. Hell, we all could! Even the trcm
trolls if they were honest could. Even if it's only the
Just look at the vitality and longevity of this news group. It's
quit incredible really. All these years and it's still going
strong. I remember someone here used to post the number of posts
to trcm each month. One month we topped 10k posts! lol! Usenet
is a cyber grave yard, littered with dead newsgroups, dedicated to
this book of that, or some other silly smeg no one can remember.
At lest in 'CwG' the reader is only asked to believe in a voice in
his head. A much more realistically believable, and less
contrives device in any respect.
Years later, Gary's wife left him, and I think he now has
another one (LOL) I once wrote this and was accused of spreading
gossip, but the person who told me had heard it from Gary (that his
wife left him) during a workshop. And he is (or would like to be)
sort of a public figure. Celebrity of sorts.
I didn't get along with him because he seemed so defensive and felt
questions (for real ones) were attack in need of defense. When he
had a book out about ACIM (and learning it) and setting himself up
as an expert at this.
One question I had, which kept me from getting into the book,
was how did his wife feel, ater 8 years, finding out he'd had this
secret life going on behind her back (when she was at work and he
was sitting around at home) he had hidden from her? He must have
hidden the tape recorder (that came on, voice activated, when the
visitors appeared to him. He must have turned this off other times,
when his wife was home?) I would have felt lied to and betrayed if
I found this out (as a wife). And Gary got very angry at any
suggestion it DIDN'T happen as he said. And, as I said, the real
story wasn't the rerun version of ACIM the visitors claimed to teach
him, with all the quotes to ACIM and Ken Wapnick being deemd "the
only real course teacher" or whatever it was the visitors said. The
real story was 2 bodies, materializing in form and then fading away.
Who told Gary he could take pictures of them (they would show in
them) but don't bother, because people would just say he had actors
dress up and took pictures of them... It was brushed off like
nothing. Gary had such a flip attitude in it, too. What I have
noticed (and I'm sure there is a real reason I am missing) a lot of
the books that are written as fiction maybe shouldn't be. Like The
Celestine Prophecy would have been good, just writing about the
insights and not try to make a story out of it. (I remember the
book, which all publishers turned down and had to be self
published, though ended up doing good for Redfield) didn't have
anything about the main charactor. Like what did he look like,
background about him, I never felt like I "knew" him. The story
broke all the rules of how to write a good book/story. CWG was
written as fiction, and maybe should have been otherwise. Like
something REAL that happened to him. I'm not sure what Gary's book
is, I think it is non fiction. He swore it really happened. I
read JLS in 1973 or so, and remember it was good. Not saying it
wasn't. Just that it was the same story as Jesus, told about a bird.
I know, I don't have any books published, so who am I to say.
Maybe the point is to make money and get known.
In Gary's first book he said he would rather eat ground glass
than get up and speak in front of people. But, his real goal seemed
to be just that. To become a course speaker and accepted by the
course community, even though a lot didn't believe he was coming
from the course (as they believed it) There was that whole thing
with Beverly Hutchinson from Miracle Distribution Center, who
wouldn't list his book because she didn't believe it was a "legit"
course book, and stuck to this. Gary and his group decided that
people were influencing her in a negative way (her ACIM book store
is the biggest and most profitible for books to be listed in) and
started a campaing for people to email her and pressure her to
change her mind. I don't know what happened with this, but she also
refused to come on the group and talk about it. She had made up her
another book and said in it (I didn't read it but heard about it)
Beverly hated him because he had killed her in another lifetime. The
book was about reincarnation, even though ACIM says it's not
really fact, and illusion like everything else. I guess to each his
own and there is a teacher for all, and some (like Gary- and those
others who seem to use ACIM in a material way (not to mention any
names because some- and their loyal supporters get mad if the truth
is pointed out (LOL) are in ou experience (those who are) to
help US (who observe them this way) learn. No one comes into our
lives by accident, and we're all teachers/students
to and for each other. Therapists, too LOL
Well I just feel that once GR had started down the track of
telling people it was for real, he felt he couldn't change his
story. I feel that if it had been published as fiction, it would
have been more widely accepted by the acim community.
Because as I said before, a voice in someone's head in one thing.
Entities materialising our of thin air is quit another.
One is channelled (:being a lot more believable, where do some
ideas come from, the ones that just pop into your head perfect and
complete?:), the other is so obviously Science Fiction, it's an
insult to be asked to believe it's real.
GR fancies himself another Ron L. bloody Hubbard. Hay, just look
how he thinks you should treat your wife! just like the 4ucking
sciencetologists. Keep them in the dark, and cover them in
bullshit (the mushroom treatment). Nar, screw him and his lies.
It's an insult to intelligence.
I think you are right, once he insisted it was true... maybe he didn't
anticipate the reaction (and quesions) about this. Maybe he liked the
feeling of having to defend his "story".
I think why I couldn't buy it (overall) is how he acted, not like an
average person would, if something like that happened. And, how he never
took pictures (and brushed it off like nothing) and they casually remarked
how he had destroyed the tapes.
I think one mistake he made (but who knows) was going on this newsgroup
to talk about it when it was first published. And then quickly getting angry
and defensive when questioned.
Not only did his wife post here two separate times, using different ids
(another time she said she was a brother at Endeavor Academy, they seemed to
be intereted in pushing the book) Both times she got busted when someone
checked her IP number and found it was the same as Gary's from Maine. But
she also (using her first fake name, which I think was her name before she
married Gary) to post a glowing review of the book on Amazon. I think she
even posted it before the book was up for sale there LOL People reported it
to Amazon, but I think only the publisher of the book can delete reviews
(and they probably routinely delete any bad ones). I think it was finally
taken off. Gene Ward Smith used to write reviews on there that questioned
the "facts" in the book and asked questions about it, and his were deleted.
nogogo
2011-02-16 12:28:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
On talk.religion.course-miracle,
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live
PC Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck.
It's a fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you
for the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town
world once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to
do than be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW
Thank you for showing your true colors.
It's good for people to see the sort of person that ACIM
produces.
This is the only post of yours I've ever read.
I'm here. Nothing an ACIM loser can do about it.
Obviously, you can't do any miracles.
ROTFL
I love it when my enemies are dumb as bricks.
The stupid troll actually thinks I am going to
engage in a running verbal war with him.
Stephen? I'm here. If you don't like it you can
eat shit.
Your own, little boy.
I have yet to meet anyone, on the Net or in the
real world, who is a student of ACIM, who isn't
an asshole.
I repeat, Stephen: Eat shit.
Sid
and I've yet to meet anyone at all who hasn't got one! (:
Carrie
2011-02-04 13:10:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never heard of
Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world once in a
while, and maybe you'll have better things to do than be a fucking
vicious troll. Fuckwit.
Which one is the vicious troll?
nogogo
2011-02-16 12:25:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never heard of
Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world once in a while,
and maybe you'll have better things to do than be a fucking vicious
troll. Fuckwit.
Wowha! Stephen. Really, I've only just come back to trcm after a
long time away. I don't know who's who here. (Although, correct
me if I'm wrong, I do seem to remember that you had a bike and
lived in or near Byron Bay.) And I haven't read many posts yet,
but regardless, that is in my honest opinion, a totally over the
top and uncalled for reaction.

I couldn't tell you what most of the US states were just by their
initials either. I'm really only just getting a handle on Canada!
(((:

Lighten up dude! God loves you, even if the rest of us think
differently! /laughs. Don't worry Stephan, as you know, nothing
real can be threatened.

Remain in light.

~ADU

PS. Hay Tom!, I've still got that photo of you reading, I hope
the book was acim! (:

Cheers gang!
Carrie
2011-02-16 13:38:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Stephen
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never heard of
Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world once in a
while, and maybe you'll have better things to do than be a fucking
vicious troll. Fuckwit.
Wowha! Stephen. Really, I've only just come back to trcm after a
long time away. I don't know who's who here. (Although, correct
me if I'm wrong, I do seem to remember that you had a bike and
lived in or near Byron Bay.) And I haven't read many posts yet,
but regardless, that is in my honest opinion, a totally over the
top and uncalled for reaction.
I couldn't tell you what most of the US states were just by their
initials either. I'm really only just getting a handle on Canada!
Lighten up dude! God loves you, even if the rest of us think
differently! /laughs. Don't worry Stephan, as you know, nothing
real can be threatened.
Remain in light.
~ADU
PS. Hay Tom!, I've still got that photo of you reading, I hope
Cheers gang!
I remember the pictures of Stephen and the bike in Byron Bay. He was at
Endeavor Academy there. I don't think that's active anymore, at least in the
same way.
I think you are thinking of Tom Fox? This is a different Tom from
someone cross posting to other groups.
nogogo
2011-02-18 09:16:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Stephen
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never heard of
Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world once in a
while, and maybe you'll have better things to do than be a fucking
vicious troll. Fuckwit.
Wowha! Stephen. Really, I've only just come back to trcm after a
long time away. I don't know who's who here. (Although, correct
me if I'm wrong, I do seem to remember that you had a bike and
lived in or near Byron Bay.) And I haven't read many posts yet,
but regardless, that is in my honest opinion, a totally over the
top and uncalled for reaction.
I couldn't tell you what most of the US states were just by their
initials either. I'm really only just getting a handle on Canada!
Lighten up dude! God loves you, even if the rest of us think
differently! /laughs. Don't worry Stephan, as you know, nothing
real can be threatened.
Remain in light.
~ADU
PS. Hay Tom!, I've still got that photo of you reading, I hope
Cheers gang!
I remember the pictures of Stephen and the bike in Byron Bay. He was at
Endeavor Academy there. I don't think that's active anymore, at least in the
same way.
I think you are thinking of Tom Fox? This is a different Tom from
someone cross posting to other groups.
But this is the same Stephen then?
But the Tom here now isn't Tom Fox? oh well.
Ellen is still here, Hay Ellen! /waves
So you were saying that Mike is not Mike Down Under?
And the Canadian Deborah moved to Vancouver, so now we have two
Deborah BCs. As well as our other Deb W.

Who else: There was Miracle Lurker, the Virgo.

And I assume that John Lopes is at least one of the alts posting
to trcm.

Then there was Pedro, quite eccentric I felt. but I liked him.

Katie, I guess at least one of the other alts here belongs to her.

And who could forget Jeanette. A wonderful but wounded soul. I
couldn't help but like.

And our man of letters Doug.

I better stop now, or I'll be going on all night.

/hugs all round

~adu

There have been so many. I wonder how many come back and have a
look every now and then.
Carrie
2011-02-18 13:50:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Stephen
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never heard
of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world once in
a while, and maybe you'll have better things to do than be a
fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
Wowha! Stephen. Really, I've only just come back to trcm after a
long time away. I don't know who's who here. (Although, correct
me if I'm wrong, I do seem to remember that you had a bike and
lived in or near Byron Bay.) And I haven't read many posts yet,
but regardless, that is in my honest opinion, a totally over the
top and uncalled for reaction.
I couldn't tell you what most of the US states were just by their
initials either. I'm really only just getting a handle on Canada!
Lighten up dude! God loves you, even if the rest of us think
differently! /laughs. Don't worry Stephan, as you know, nothing
real can be threatened.
Remain in light.
~ADU
PS. Hay Tom!, I've still got that photo of you reading, I hope
Cheers gang!
I remember the pictures of Stephen and the bike in Byron Bay. He
was at Endeavor Academy there. I don't think that's active anymore,
at least in the same way.
I think you are thinking of Tom Fox? This is a different Tom from
someone cross posting to other groups.
But this is the same Stephen then?
Yes, as far as I know. If you look at their email address you can
sometimes tell.
Post by nogogo
But the Tom here now isn't Tom Fox? oh well.
Tom Fox used his full name most of the time (that I remember) Someone
named "Sidney Lambe" (who apparently uses many other names or has) started
posting here (seemed kind of familair lilke at least one other person with a
different name from over the years) and also cross posting it to other
groups like m agick, wicca, and such. Maybe everyone didn't realize this, I
didn't at first. I was writing on one that had Catholic and politics in it
and people were fighting over abortion.
Tom seems to have come from some of the other groups. It has livened
things up a bit.
Post by nogogo
Ellen is still here, Hay Ellen! /waves
Ellen pops in.
Post by nogogo
So you were saying that Mike is not Mike Down Under?
No, Mike is another Mike who has posted on here before. But, someeone
mentioned Mike Down Under.
Robin Evans (Bodhi) has a group that is active and a lot of people from
trc-m seem to be on. I was on it for awhile (Robin will send me invitations
to his groups, etc) But, at one point he started in "explaining" to someone
(maybe he group) how I am (in a negative way) and that's how I am and how I
will always be and never change. I don't think ACIM is about seeing people
"the same way" and if you don't like or agree with them, trying to change
them, so I stopped posting there. Seems like he had, and was going to keep
seeing me how HE saw me (and always had and always would) and pointing this
out to others here. Plus, posts would be deleted (by Robin, or whoever was
moderating it with him) and that sometimes made it hard to follow. If
something didn't look right, the way they wanted it to, they took off the
post or the whole thread. One time he said he deleted posts because the
author of them had asked im to. I have a hard time following "manipulated"
groups.
http://iworkmiracles.com/forum
Th is might be it, he changed the name several times but the uil is the
same. John Lopez and Gene Ward Smith are on it. And others. Sheryl Valentine
was at one time. The same group seems to move around to new formats. I
remember when it was a yahoo egroup (I think Mike Down Under) started called
'Coarse_Talk" (not the formal one people would be banned on "Course_Talk")
Robin has started a lot of groups, I have one in my links that he had,
that says "the coolest chat on the internet, say whatever you want here!"
(this wasn't true LOL)
Post by nogogo
And the Canadian Deborah moved to Vancouver, so now we have two
Deborah BCs. As well as our other Deb W.
I thought we only had one Deborah BC who dropped that after the others
stopped posting. Oh, I know the one who is friends with Doug Thompson.
And Deb W in TX.
Post by nogogo
Who else: There was Miracle Lurker, the Virgo.
Miraclelurker is Ellen.
Post by nogogo
And I assume that John Lopes is at least one of the alts posting
to trcm.
That's what people think or thought, but I don't. I think Sidney is a
woman. Still posting on "cult boards" trying to start trouble?
Post by nogogo
Then there was Pedro, quite eccentric I felt. but I liked him.
Oh he hasn't been around for a long time. I remember him.
Post by nogogo
Katie, I guess at least one of the other alts here belongs to her.
Sort of seems like it.
Post by nogogo
And who could forget Jeanette. A wonderful but wounded soul. I
couldn't help but like.
Last I knew Jeanette had stopped participating online, and got on with
her life. Being a nurse and doing more things. Maybe that's the whole point
of these online groups, to realize at some point you don't need them. I
think there's a lot of value in the groups though. Even though it seems
negative. It's like training for offline life.
Post by nogogo
And our man of letters Doug.
I better stop now, or I'll be going on all night.
/hugs all round
~adu
There have been so many. I wonder how many come back and have a
look every now and then.
I know.
Richard (Mallet?) has been popping in some now. Richard from Tahoe.
nogogo
2011-02-27 10:23:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Stephen
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never heard
of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world once in
a while, and maybe you'll have better things to do than be a
fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
Wowha! Stephen. Really, I've only just come back to trcm after a
long time away. I don't know who's who here. (Although, correct
me if I'm wrong, I do seem to remember that you had a bike and
lived in or near Byron Bay.) And I haven't read many posts yet,
but regardless, that is in my honest opinion, a totally over the
top and uncalled for reaction.
I couldn't tell you what most of the US states were just by their
initials either. I'm really only just getting a handle on Canada!
Lighten up dude! God loves you, even if the rest of us think
differently! /laughs. Don't worry Stephan, as you know, nothing
real can be threatened.
Remain in light.
~ADU
PS. Hay Tom!, I've still got that photo of you reading, I hope
Cheers gang!
I remember the pictures of Stephen and the bike in Byron Bay. He
was at Endeavor Academy there. I don't think that's active anymore,
at least in the same way.
I think you are thinking of Tom Fox? This is a different Tom from
someone cross posting to other groups.
But this is the same Stephen then?
Yes, as far as I know. If you look at their email address you can
sometimes tell.
Post by nogogo
But the Tom here now isn't Tom Fox? oh well.
Tom Fox used his full name most of the time (that I remember) Someone
named "Sidney Lambe" (who apparently uses many other names or has) started
posting here (seemed kind of familair lilke at least one other person with a
different name from over the years) and also cross posting it to other
groups like m agick, wicca, and such. Maybe everyone didn't realize this, I
didn't at first. I was writing on one that had Catholic and politics in it
and people were fighting over abortion.
Tom seems to have come from some of the other groups. It has livened
things up a bit.
Post by nogogo
Ellen is still here, Hay Ellen! /waves
Ellen pops in.
Post by nogogo
So you were saying that Mike is not Mike Down Under?
No, Mike is another Mike who has posted on here before. But, someeone
mentioned Mike Down Under.
Robin Evans (Bodhi) has a group that is active and a lot of people from
trc-m seem to be on. I was on it for awhile (Robin will send me invitations
to his groups, etc) But, at one point he started in "explaining" to someone
(maybe he group) how I am (in a negative way) and that's how I am and how I
will always be and never change. I don't think ACIM is about seeing people
"the same way" and if you don't like or agree with them, trying to change
them, so I stopped posting there. Seems like he had, and was going to keep
seeing me how HE saw me (and always had and always would) and pointing this
out to others here. Plus, posts would be deleted (by Robin, or whoever was
moderating it with him) and that sometimes made it hard to follow. If
something didn't look right, the way they wanted it to, they took off the
post or the whole thread. One time he said he deleted posts because the
author of them had asked im to. I have a hard time following "manipulated"
groups.
http://iworkmiracles.com/forum
Th is might be it, he changed the name several times but the uil is the
same. John Lopez and Gene Ward Smith are on it. And others. Sheryl Valentine
was at one time. The same group seems to move around to new formats. I
remember when it was a yahoo egroup (I think Mike Down Under) started called
'Coarse_Talk" (not the formal one people would be banned on "Course_Talk")
Robin has started a lot of groups, I have one in my links that he had,
that says "the coolest chat on the internet, say whatever you want here!"
(this wasn't true LOL)
Post by nogogo
And the Canadian Deborah moved to Vancouver, so now we have two
Deborah BCs. As well as our other Deb W.
I thought we only had one Deborah BC who dropped that after the others
stopped posting. Oh, I know the one who is friends with Doug Thompson.
And Deb W in TX.
Post by nogogo
Who else: There was Miracle Lurker, the Virgo.
Miraclelurker is Ellen.
Post by nogogo
And I assume that John Lopes is at least one of the alts posting
to trcm.
That's what people think or thought, but I don't. I think Sidney is a
woman. Still posting on "cult boards" trying to start trouble?
Post by nogogo
Then there was Pedro, quite eccentric I felt. but I liked him.
Oh he hasn't been around for a long time. I remember him.
Post by nogogo
Katie, I guess at least one of the other alts here belongs to her.
Sort of seems like it.
Post by nogogo
And who could forget Jeanette. A wonderful but wounded soul. I
couldn't help but like.
Last I knew Jeanette had stopped participating online, and got on with
her life. Being a nurse and doing more things. Maybe that's the whole point
of these online groups, to realize at some point you don't need them. I
think there's a lot of value in the groups though. Even though it seems
negative. It's like training for offline life.
Post by nogogo
And our man of letters Doug.
I better stop now, or I'll be going on all night.
/hugs all round
~adu
There have been so many. I wonder how many come back and have a
look every now and then.
I know.
Richard (Mallet?) has been popping in some now. Richard from Tahoe.
So Maz is still around? I haven't seen a post by him for a while.

And I remember which Mike, the one who sells T-shirts and things
on line. And I remember something about the Big Sir. (:
Carrie
2011-02-27 13:21:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Stephen
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming
that Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I
managed to get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC
Solutions. If they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a
fairly obvious scam but some may be taken in.
Not a problem for those of us who run Linux, but I thank you for
the heads-up.
What's an "NSW"?
It's a fucking state in Australia, ignoramus. Have you never
heard of Google? Get outsdie of your tiny little home-town world
once in a while, and maybe you'll have better things to do than
be a fucking vicious troll. Fuckwit.
Wowha! Stephen. Really, I've only just come back to trcm after a
long time away. I don't know who's who here. (Although, correct
me if I'm wrong, I do seem to remember that you had a bike and
lived in or near Byron Bay.) And I haven't read many posts yet,
but regardless, that is in my honest opinion, a totally over the
top and uncalled for reaction.
I couldn't tell you what most of the US states were just by their
initials either. I'm really only just getting a handle on Canada!
Lighten up dude! God loves you, even if the rest of us think
differently! /laughs. Don't worry Stephan, as you know, nothing
real can be threatened.
Remain in light.
~ADU
PS. Hay Tom!, I've still got that photo of you reading, I hope
Cheers gang!
I remember the pictures of Stephen and the bike in Byron Bay.
He was at Endeavor Academy there. I don't think that's active
anymore, at least in the same way.
I think you are thinking of Tom Fox? This is a different Tom
from someone cross posting to other groups.
But this is the same Stephen then?
Yes, as far as I know. If you look at their email address you
can sometimes tell.
Post by nogogo
But the Tom here now isn't Tom Fox? oh well.
Tom Fox used his full name most of the time (that I remember)
Someone named "Sidney Lambe" (who apparently uses many other names
or has) started posting here (seemed kind of familair lilke at least
one other person with a different name from over the years) and also
cross posting it to other groups like m agick, wicca, and such.
Maybe everyone didn't realize this, I didn't at first. I was writing
on one that had Catholic and politics in it and people were fighting
over abortion. Tom seems to have come from some of the other
groups. It has livened
things up a bit.
Post by nogogo
Ellen is still here, Hay Ellen! /waves
Ellen pops in.
Post by nogogo
So you were saying that Mike is not Mike Down Under?
No, Mike is another Mike who has posted on here before. But,
someeone mentioned Mike Down Under.
Robin Evans (Bodhi) has a group that is active and a lot of
people from trc-m seem to be on. I was on it for awhile (Robin will
send me invitations to his groups, etc) But, at one point he
started in "explaining" to someone (maybe he group) how I am (in a
negative way) and that's how I am and how I will always be and never
change. I don't think ACIM is about seeing people "the same way" and
if you don't like or agree with them, trying to change them, so I
stopped posting there. Seems like he had, and was going to keep
seeing me how HE saw me (and always had and always would) and
pointing this out to others here. Plus, posts would be deleted (by
Robin, or whoever was moderating it with him) and that sometimes
made it hard to follow. If something didn't look right, the way they
wanted it to, they took off the post or the whole thread. One time
he said he deleted posts because the author of them had asked im to.
I have a hard time following "manipulated" groups.
http://iworkmiracles.com/forum
Th is might be it, he changed the name several times but the uil is
the same. John Lopez and Gene Ward Smith are on it. And others.
Sheryl Valentine was at one time. The same group seems to move
around to new formats. I remember when it was a yahoo egroup (I
think Mike Down Under) started called 'Coarse_Talk" (not the formal
one people would be banned on "Course_Talk") Robin has started a
lot of groups, I have one in my links that he had,
that says "the coolest chat on the internet, say whatever you want
here!" (this wasn't true LOL)
Post by nogogo
And the Canadian Deborah moved to Vancouver, so now we have two
Deborah BCs. As well as our other Deb W.
I thought we only had one Deborah BC who dropped that after
the others stopped posting. Oh, I know the one who is friends with
Doug Thompson. And Deb W in TX.
Post by nogogo
Who else: There was Miracle Lurker, the Virgo.
Miraclelurker is Ellen.
Post by nogogo
And I assume that John Lopes is at least one of the alts posting
to trcm.
That's what people think or thought, but I don't. I think Sidney
is a woman. Still posting on "cult boards" trying to start trouble?
Post by nogogo
Then there was Pedro, quite eccentric I felt. but I liked him.
Oh he hasn't been around for a long time. I remember him.
Post by nogogo
Katie, I guess at least one of the other alts here belongs to her.
Sort of seems like it.
Post by nogogo
And who could forget Jeanette. A wonderful but wounded soul. I
couldn't help but like.
Last I knew Jeanette had stopped participating online, and got
on with her life. Being a nurse and doing more things. Maybe that's
the whole point of these online groups, to realize at some point you
don't need them. I think there's a lot of value in the groups
though. Even though it seems negative. It's like training for
offline life.
Post by nogogo
And our man of letters Doug.
I better stop now, or I'll be going on all night.
/hugs all round
~adu
There have been so many. I wonder how many come back and have a
look every now and then.
I know.
Richard (Mallet?) has been popping in some now. Richard from Tahoe.
So Maz is still around? I haven't seen a post by him for a while.
And I remember which Mike, the one who sells T-shirts and things
It was Tom Fox who sold stuff on ebay and Cafe Press. Cups and T shirts
and stuff.
Maz has all the lessons (audio) set to music
http://www.acimradio.net/workbook_audio.htm
A lot of them are on a group Robin has now. Last I knew they seemed to be
getting along peacefully. But whole threads and posts get deleted, so maybe
it just looks that way.
I don't like that, it makes it confusing (answer something, come back
and it's gone or some of the posts are).
When Robin was explaining to someone (like I wasn't there reading it)
about me, and how "I am" (in a negative way) and always have been and will
never change. I dropped off. Not my idea of "discussion". posts and threads
taken off, and people discribed (to someone who, I guess Robin felt didn't
know me and needed to be warned) in personal- negative ways.
I've known Robin (online) since I've had the internet over 12 years.
When he was at Endeavor Academy, back then. Apparnetly I haven't ever
changed my mind about him, either (LOL)
(He used to tell me I had an authority problem because I talked back
to him and quesioned him and what he said. Well, I do that all the time on
discussion boards. I mean it is DISCUSSION. Not just "this is how it is, and
if you don't agree you are wrong so shut up!")
I used to think not trying to get along with everyone was judging
them in a negative way, but it really isn't. It's just making a peaceful
choice to leave them alone and move on to other things.

Carrie
2011-02-04 13:08:51 UTC
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Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming that
Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I managed to get
the name of the actual company from her: Live PC Solutions. If they
call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a fairly obvious scam but
some may be taken in.
We have a commercial on TV here (late at night) where they say (for a
price) they will connect with your PC and fix it, take out the spyware, fix
the registry, etc. I know there is something that one can set to allow
remote access like that. I would think with someone you know and trust. This
place will connect with your PC and fix it- without you having to leave your
home (bring it to a shop) and, will probably get your debit/credit card info
used to pay for it.
Not saying it's a scam, but when I see the commercial I think of that.
Giving out payment info and letting someone connect to your PC in a remote
way doesn't sound good to me. Though with the TV commercial place (something
like fixmycomputer.com ) they probably work just inside "laws".
They talk up how they can fix it and make it work 4 times faster. And,
Microsoft does this to check for updates, and verify you have windows (after
they put in the update that allows this) and puts in service packs and
security updates, etc. all the time.
nogogo
2011-02-16 13:56:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming that
Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I managed to get
the name of the actual company from her: Live PC Solutions. If they
call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a fairly obvious scam but
some may be taken in.
We have a commercial on TV here (late at night) where they say (for a
price) they will connect with your PC and fix it, take out the spyware, fix
the registry, etc. I know there is something that one can set to allow
remote access like that. I would think with someone you know and trust. This
place will connect with your PC and fix it- without you having to leave your
home (bring it to a shop) and, will probably get your debit/credit card info
used to pay for it.
Not saying it's a scam, but when I see the commercial I think of that.
Giving out payment info and letting someone connect to your PC in a remote
way doesn't sound good to me. Though with the TV commercial place (something
like fixmycomputer.com ) they probably work just inside "laws".
They talk up how they can fix it and make it work 4 times faster. And,
Microsoft does this to check for updates, and verify you have windows (after
they put in the update that allows this) and puts in service packs and
security updates, etc. all the time.
I think that commercial may be on the up and up. It's also very
easy to first remove any details that you don't want them to find.
Easy as really. Just wipe all free space (zero fill), do a
defrag that jams all the data up one end of the drive, zero fill,
jam all the data up the other end of the drive, zero fill, do a
normal defrag. Zero fill, lol. You get the idea.

But the backdoor they use is quite legit, and built into windows
by M$. Really, what's the diff, except that's it's easier not to
have to take you computer back to the shop. They can do much more
with it there than they can do with it at your place.

For a start, they can't just wipe the hard drive and re install
the OS with out asking you. They can do that at the shop. They
can install anything with out you even watching. Not so with
remote assistance. You can watch everything they are doing. You
still even have control of the mouse (so do they of course). At
any time you can cut the connection. Can't do that while it's at
the shop either.

All in all, if you know or can research the company, you're
probably in a better position all round if the price is right.

But really, if it's that bad, just back up and do a clean install.
Sorts out so many problems you didn't even know you had.

Then when you get your computer just how you like it, image the
drive and put it in a safe place. Then next time you can just
wipe the drive and stick the image back on. No worries.

I find doing a disk to disk is the easiest and most reliable way.
Just need that extra HDD installed while you do the image. I
then pull the leads out, and it doesn't get run up again till I
need the image. Perfect and fast every time!

Hay, just rambling on! (((:

~adu
Carrie
2011-02-16 17:22:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming that
Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I managed to
get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC Solutions. If
they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a fairly obvious scam
but some may be taken in.
We have a commercial on TV here (late at night) where they say
(for a price) they will connect with your PC and fix it, take out
the spyware, fix the registry, etc. I know there is something that
one can set to allow remote access like that. I would think with
someone you know and trust. This place will connect with your PC and
fix it- without you having to leave your home (bring it to a shop)
and, will probably get your debit/credit card info used to pay for
it. Not saying it's a scam, but when I see the commercial I think
of that. Giving out payment info and letting someone connect to your
PC in a remote way doesn't sound good to me. Though with the TV
commercial place (something like fixmycomputer.com ) they probably
work just inside "laws". They talk up how they can fix it and make
it work 4 times faster. And, Microsoft does this to check for
updates, and verify you have windows (after they put in the update
that allows this) and puts in service packs and security updates,
etc. all the time.
I think that commercial may be on the up and up. It's also very
easy to first remove any details that you don't want them to find.
Easy as really. Just wipe all free space (zero fill), do a
defrag that jams all the data up one end of the drive, zero fill,
jam all the data up the other end of the drive, zero fill, do a
normal defrag. Zero fill, lol. You get the idea.
But the backdoor they use is quite legit, and built into windows
by M$. Really, what's the diff, except that's it's easier not to
have to take you computer back to the shop. They can do much more
with it there than they can do with it at your place.
For a start, they can't just wipe the hard drive and re install
the OS with out asking you. They can do that at the shop. They
can install anything with out you even watching. Not so with
remote assistance. You can watch everything they are doing. You
still even have control of the mouse (so do they of course). At
any time you can cut the connection. Can't do that while it's at
the shop either.
All in all, if you know or can research the company, you're
probably in a better position all round if the price is right.
But really, if it's that bad, just back up and do a clean install.
Sorts out so many problems you didn't even know you had.
Then when you get your computer just how you like it, image the
drive and put it in a safe place. Then next time you can just
wipe the drive and stick the image back on. No worries.
I find doing a disk to disk is the easiest and most reliable way.
Just need that extra HDD installed while you do the image. I
then pull the leads out, and it doesn't get run up again till I
need the image. Perfect and fast every time!
~adu
I'm thinking any one who can do all that before they pay for someone to
make their computer faster remotely, could probably figure out how to make
their computer faster themselves (LOL)
I know there is remote connect, and Microsoft can do it (they also can
check to m ake sure you have legit copy of Windows and if you don't disable
it, at least the OS). I just wouldn't like to have someone who advertises
on late night TV connecting to my computer to fix it and make it faster.
Even though you are probably right it is legit.
nogogo
2011-02-18 09:19:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carrie
Post by nogogo
Post by Carrie
Post by Stephen
I just had a call from a woman with an Indian accent claiming that
Microsoft Windows had detected errors on my computer. I managed to
get the name of the actual company from her: Live PC Solutions. If
they call you, tell them to kiss a duck. It's a fairly obvious scam
but some may be taken in.
We have a commercial on TV here (late at night) where they say
(for a price) they will connect with your PC and fix it, take out
the spyware, fix the registry, etc. I know there is something that
one can set to allow remote access like that. I would think with
someone you know and trust. This place will connect with your PC and
fix it- without you having to leave your home (bring it to a shop)
and, will probably get your debit/credit card info used to pay for
it. Not saying it's a scam, but when I see the commercial I think
of that. Giving out payment info and letting someone connect to your
PC in a remote way doesn't sound good to me. Though with the TV
commercial place (something like fixmycomputer.com ) they probably
work just inside "laws". They talk up how they can fix it and make
it work 4 times faster. And, Microsoft does this to check for
updates, and verify you have windows (after they put in the update
that allows this) and puts in service packs and security updates,
etc. all the time.
I think that commercial may be on the up and up. It's also very
easy to first remove any details that you don't want them to find.
Easy as really. Just wipe all free space (zero fill), do a
defrag that jams all the data up one end of the drive, zero fill,
jam all the data up the other end of the drive, zero fill, do a
normal defrag. Zero fill, lol. You get the idea.
But the backdoor they use is quite legit, and built into windows
by M$. Really, what's the diff, except that's it's easier not to
have to take you computer back to the shop. They can do much more
with it there than they can do with it at your place.
For a start, they can't just wipe the hard drive and re install
the OS with out asking you. They can do that at the shop. They
can install anything with out you even watching. Not so with
remote assistance. You can watch everything they are doing. You
still even have control of the mouse (so do they of course). At
any time you can cut the connection. Can't do that while it's at
the shop either.
All in all, if you know or can research the company, you're
probably in a better position all round if the price is right.
But really, if it's that bad, just back up and do a clean install.
Sorts out so many problems you didn't even know you had.
Then when you get your computer just how you like it, image the
drive and put it in a safe place. Then next time you can just
wipe the drive and stick the image back on. No worries.
I find doing a disk to disk is the easiest and most reliable way.
Just need that extra HDD installed while you do the image. I
then pull the leads out, and it doesn't get run up again till I
need the image. Perfect and fast every time!
~adu
I'm thinking any one who can do all that before they pay for someone to
make their computer faster remotely, could probably figure out how to make
their computer faster themselves (LOL)
I know there is remote connect, and Microsoft can do it (they also can
check to m ake sure you have legit copy of Windows and if you don't disable
it, at least the OS). I just wouldn't like to have someone who advertises
on late night TV connecting to my computer to fix it and make it faster.
Even though you are probably right it is legit.
lol you are so right Carrie. (:
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