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IS SAYING "THE BOOK OF MORMON IS A CROCK OF CRAP" A LEGITIMATE TOPIC FOR THIS BOARD?
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course zealot
2019-12-09 21:59:43 UTC
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I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?

Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?


Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?

It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"

The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.

It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."


"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28

"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16

Paul the Apostle:
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11

"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Voter
2019-12-09 22:10:05 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Also,

"For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect
has come, then that which is in part will be done away." - 1 Corinthians 13:9
course zealot
2019-12-09 22:56:03 UTC
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What do you want out of anybody? On the internet you have strangers as an
audience. Without the internet, you would have only friends who _knew_ you to act
in front of. On the internet you can make up any character you want. Who do you
want to be?

Do you have an idea about somebody, because of what they've said before?

You don't know strangers. You don't know people on the internet. You don't know
people who you are in conflict with. That is called _estrangement_.

You have the ability in life to change your character. Life is about finding out
who you are, and becoming who you want to be. Who do you want to be? Somebody
whom other people want. Whom do other people want? Someone who wants them. What
is rapport but the development of friendship which is love.

Ad hominen attacks insult the messenger and not the message. Should not the
dictates of logic and reason and intelligence and truth stand on their own, for
they are true, regardless of who said them, as a mathematical theory is true?


"The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell
where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
- Jesus Christ, John 3:8
course zealot
2019-12-09 23:24:33 UTC
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Post by course zealot
What do you want out of anybody? On the internet you have strangers as an
audience. Without the internet, you would have only friends who _knew_ you to act
in front of. On the internet you can make up any character you want. Who do you
want to be?
Do you have an idea about somebody, because of what they've said before?
You don't know strangers. You don't know people on the internet. You don't know
people who you are in conflict with. That is called _estrangement_.
You have the ability in life to change your character. Life is about finding out
who you are, and becoming who you want to be. Who do you want to be? Somebody
whom other people want. Whom do other people want? Someone who wants them. What
is rapport but the development of friendship which is love.
Ad hominen attacks insult the messenger and not the message. Should not the
dictates of logic and reason and intelligence and truth stand on their own, for
they are true, regardless of who said them, as a mathematical theory is true?
"The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell
where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
- Jesus Christ, John 3:8
People are subjects and not objects. In fact, there are only subjects in this
world. An object is a point, and a point is nothing. There is no such thing as a
point. There is no such thing as nothing. There are only subjects. All things
have consciousness. Even a rock is a subject and has a consciousness. A rock has
a being. And only One Self runs through all things. This Self is bigger than the
ocean. And yet how do we reconcile Solipsism with Duality?

"You could, in fact, gain vision from just that table, if you would withdraw all
your own ideas from it, and look upon it with a completely open mind. It has
something to show you; something beautiful and clean and of infinite value, full
of happiness and hope. Hidden under all your ideas about it is its real purpose,
the purpose it shares with all the universe.
In using the table as a subject for applying the idea for today, you are therefore
really asking to see the purpose of the universe."
- acim, Workbook Lesson 28 - "Above all else I want to see things differently."

Death is nothing. Nothing does not exist. There is no such thing as nothing.
There is no such thing as death.

There is only the subject. There is only the Self. This is a fact. It does not
matter if you say it, or if someone says it to you. You can not contend with it.

At least... that's my presumption. I hope I have that right. Science just tells
us what's _most likely_ true. How do we know what's really out there? I'm merely
trying to make analytical concepts conform to reality. And do I fully know what
reality is? It must be our goal to come to fully know reality, and reveal
intrinsic truth, must it not?

To attack someone you have to first objectify them. And yet, there is no such
thing as an object. So it must somehow be their error to identify with this
object you say they are... such as the body, or a self-concept. Though it may
seem we're all at the mercy of those who would back-stab us in our sleep.
course zealot
2019-12-09 22:12:49 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Also,

"For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect
has come, then that which is in part will be done away." - 1 Corinthians 13:9
course zealot
2019-12-10 04:37:52 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Keeping this current.
course zealot
2019-12-10 11:56:30 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Keeping this current.
course zealot
2019-12-10 19:47:50 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Keeping this current.
course zealot
2019-12-11 03:32:39 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Keeping this current.
course zealot
2019-12-11 07:51:01 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
Keeping this current.
course zealot
2019-12-11 21:37:07 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
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course zealot
2019-12-13 04:26:50 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
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course zealot
2019-12-16 09:47:55 UTC
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Post by course zealot
I was just wondering what it's okay to speak about, or if anything I could say
might be considered offensive or off topic or impolite. I mean, I know it's an
unmoderated and free board, which I am fully with, but are there any rules which
we are generally "under grace" towards? I mean, are we supposed to be polite?
Like, for instance, if I wanted to say that black people are of the devil, would
this be an okay board for that?
Or is basically, like America, not an okay place for bigotry, (or even this
earth), even on the white pride board, as Jesus taught to "love one another," and
this is supposed to be "One nation under God," isn't it?
It would seem Christians persecuting Christians is outrageous service to the
spirit of adversity. There are many Churches, and Christ is the head of them all.
And doesn't A Course in Miracles say "I must found my church on you?"
The world is in need of _leaders_, who proselytize, and serve the truth.
It should be noted that persecution is not proselytization - which seeks to
educate, enlighten, enrich, and lead to salvation. But persecution is the
ministry of satan and seeks to condemn and destroy, to insult and attack. Those
who persecute "have what judges them," so if anyone has persecuted, let him
repent, and "go and sin no more."
"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and
they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, and one shepherd."
- Jesus Christ, John 10:16
"For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am,
and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they
all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore, whether it was
I or they, so we preach and so you believed." - 1 Corinthians 15:9-11
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
- Jesus Christ, Luke 5:32
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