ACIM L178 Review V Lessons 165 & 166 ~ June 27 (iambic pentameter)

[Lee Flynn]

ACIM Workbook Lesson 178 ~ June 27

http://courseinmiracles.com/workbook_lessons/part_1/lesson178.htm
http://www.acimradio.net/urwork/


" Lesson 178

"God is but Love, and therefore so am I."

165. "Let not my mind deny the Thought of God."

"God is but Love, and therefore so am I."

166. "I am entrusted with the gifts of God."

"God is but Love, and therefore so am I." "

~ Original Handscript of ACIM

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[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Lee Flynn
ACIM Workbook Lesson 178 ~ June 27

[delete]

This is like the 5th time in a row this fellow has posted this.

Repeating nonsense does not make it trye.

Repetition can make you believe it, but just because you believe
something doesn't mean it's true..

Post by Lee Flynn
" Lesson 178
"God is but Love, and therefore so am I."

Wrong. God is everything. Good, bad and indifferent.

They idea that there is more than one creative source for
events is a false Christian concept.

A very destructive concept.


Which is one of the reasons that Christians are the
worst mass murderers (warmakers) on the Planet.

Post by Lee Flynn
165. "Let not my mind deny the Thought of God."

If you think you are communicating with God, then you
are listening to religous nuts like these folks rather
than your own intuitions.

What some of them do is experience their own inner
self and mistake it for the Christian false god,
because that's all they believe in.

Post by Lee Flynn
"God is but Love, and therefore so am I."

That is still Pollyansa nonsense.

Post by Lee Flynn
166. "I am entrusted with the gifts of God."

As is everything that exists.

Post by Lee Flynn
"God is but Love, and therefore so am I." "

Still nonsense. God is everything.

When you take a shit, that's God taking a shit.

Yes, I know, that's too real for you.

Post by Lee Flynn
~ Original Handscript of ACIM

The mis-named "Course in Miraccles (ACIM)" was supposedly
delivered by Jesus, but is clearly just another version
of the Bible presented in a clumsy New-Age costume by
deceitful Christians-in-denial who don't understand
New-Age thought at all.

The Nature of Perosnal Reality by Jane Roberts is
the opposite of ACIM: it is straight-forward and
clear and honest. It doesn't claim to come from
some being who doesn't even exist except in the
fearful and ignorant imaginations of Christians.

[Ron Rechtum]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Lee Flynn
ACIM Workbook Lesson 178 ~ June 27

[delete]

*PLONK*

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Ron Rechtum

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Lee Flynn
ACIM Workbook Lesson 178 ~ June 27

[delete]

*PLONK*

Don't you love it when the Jewballs get all huffy while slaughtering
Palestinians and killing their babies?

BTW, Jewball, there is no such thing as sex magick. It's as foolish
and impotent as every other psuedo-magickal practice in the neo-pagan
world.

I suggest that you work on your self-esteem, physical
health, and social skills if you want to get laid.

You are a typical neo-pagan psuedo-magician: an endless
fountain of useless book learning, all of it originating
from people who couldn't make water wet with magick.

Here's a clue for you: just because a book or website
says it's about magick, doesn't mean it is.

Now I'll get back to my 13yo guest and you get back to genocide,
Jewball.

[delete]

[Sheldon7]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Ron Rechtum

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Lee Flynn
ACIM Workbook Lesson 178 ~ June 27

[delete]

*PLONK*

Don't you love it when the Jewballs get all huffy while slaughtering
Palestinians and killing their babies?
BTW, Jewball, there is no such thing as sex magick. It's as foolish
and impotent as every other psuedo-magickal practice in the neo-pagan
world.
I suggest that you work on your self-esteem, physical
health, and social skills if you want to get laid.
You are a typical neo-pagan psuedo-magician: an endless
fountain of useless book learning, all of it originating
from people who couldn't make water wet with magick.
Here's a clue for you: just because a book or website
says it's about magick, doesn't mean it is.
Now I'll get back to my 13yo guest and you get back to genocide,
Jewball.
[delete]

Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

The only really good thing about them is that they have
introduced the raw concepts of magick to an entire generation.

Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

[VD]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

Post by Sidney Lambe
In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

Don't know your "Carrie" but there is nothing looney or New Age about
writings of great spiritual value being entertaining.

I find Shakespeare entertaining, do you not?

Post by Sidney Lambe
The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

Then you read them from an entirely secular view point.

Post by Sidney Lambe
The only really good thing about them is that they have
introduced the raw concepts of magick to an entire generation.

I would say that may be the least of their value if you are defining
"magick" as a Wiccan.

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

I guarantee you she does.

Mr. Lambe, did you truly read the HP Septology? ;)

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

They are kid's books that as an adult I only read because of their
so-called magickal content.

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe
In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

Don't know your "Carrie" but there is nothing looney or New Age about
writings of great spiritual value being entertaining.
I find Shakespeare entertaining, do you not?

You find Shakespeare magickal? Says a lot about you. And what you
don't know about magick.

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe
The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

Then you read them from an entirely secular view point.

I read them from an entirely magickal viewpoint.

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe
The only really good thing about them is that they have
introduced the raw concepts of magick to an entire generation.

I would say that may be the least of their value if you are defining
"magick" as a Wiccan.

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

I guarantee you she does.

Are you Rowling?

Post by VD
Mr. Lambe, did you truly read the HP Septology? ;)

Are you calling me a Liar?

[VD]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

They are kid's books that as an adult I only read because of their
so-called magickal content.

Mr. Lambe, were Aesop's fables for children only?

Quoting:

"...any good writer of children's fiction inserts information that
will stimulate the (presumably) more informed adults who may be
reading the books along with or to their children..."

Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

If the most important purposes on Potterverse are geared to readers
who must be (near) adulthood aged, then it would logically follow that
Ms. Rowling's super most intentions are teachings for adults.

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by VD
Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

Rowling hides nothing because the boks don't have enough depth to hide
anything. She fucks up the lot by confusing alchemy with magick.

Post by VD
If the most important purposes on Potterverse are geared to readers
who must be (near) adulthood aged, then it would logically follow that
Ms. Rowling's super most intentions are teachings for adults.

You enjoy blithering?

[VD]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

Rowling hides nothing because the boks don't have enough depth to hide
anything. She fucks up the lot by confusing alchemy with magick.

I don't understand how in the world you have come to that conclusion
unless it is you who parallels the two.

Alchemy, Liberating Alchemy to be definitive, is the spiritual process
of transforming the mortal to the immortal, in particular the soul od
man. There is nothing "magickal" about it, no incantations, cauldrons
or spells required.

Let's not confuse alchemy with the pseudo-chemical process of
attempting to rearrange molecularly elements to turn Au to Pb. That's
Star Trek transportism. ;)

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
If the most important purposes on Potterverse are geared to readers
who must be (near) adulthood aged, then it would logically follow that
Ms. Rowling's super most intentions are teachings for adults.

You enjoy blithering?

From time to time but not this time ;)

A link for you.

http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-09-034-f

[Carrie]

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

Rowling hides nothing because the boks don't have enough depth to hide
anything. She fucks up the lot by confusing alchemy with magick.

I don't understand how in the world you have come to that conclusion
unless it is you who parallels the two.

Sidney, like some others who participate on newsgroups, doesn't seem to
really care about what the topic is or what others thing or don't think. The
whole point is to get something going so he can make out how right he is and
how wrong they are. Over and over and over.
Actually, does anyone know that Sidney is a "he"? He writes a lot like
someone else I used to know on newsgroups, who would use fake IDs but was a
woman. At least so I was told.

Post by VD
Alchemy, Liberating Alchemy to be definitive, is the spiritual process
of transforming the mortal to the immortal, in particular the soul od
man. There is nothing "magickal" about it, no incantations, cauldrons
or spells required.
Let's not confuse alchemy with the pseudo-chemical process of
attempting to rearrange molecularly elements to turn Au to Pb. That's
Star Trek transportism. ;)

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
If the most important purposes on Potterverse are geared to readers
who must be (near) adulthood aged, then it would logically follow that
Ms. Rowling's super most intentions are teachings for adults.

You enjoy blithering?

From time to time but not this time ;)
A link for you.
http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-09-034-f
--
http://harrypotterforseekers.com/alchemy/alchemy.php
<http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/resources/documents/chymical_wedding.pdf>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harrypotterforseekers/messages?o=1

[The Doctor]

Post by Carrie

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

Rowling hides nothing because the boks don't have enough depth to hide
anything. She fucks up the lot by confusing alchemy with magick.

I don't understand how in the world you have come to that conclusion
unless it is you who parallels the two.

Sidney, like some others who participate on newsgroups, doesn't seem to
really care about what the topic is or what others thing or don't think. The
whole point is to get something going so he can make out how right he is and
how wrong they are. Over and over and over.
Actually, does anyone know that Sidney is a "he"? He writes a lot like
someone else I used to know on newsgroups, who would use fake IDs but was a
woman. At least so I was told.

Post by VD
Alchemy, Liberating Alchemy to be definitive, is the spiritual process
of transforming the mortal to the immortal, in particular the soul od
man. There is nothing "magickal" about it, no incantations, cauldrons
or spells required.
Let's not confuse alchemy with the pseudo-chemical process of
attempting to rearrange molecularly elements to turn Au to Pb. That's
Star Trek transportism. ;)

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
If the most important purposes on Potterverse are geared to readers
who must be (near) adulthood aged, then it would logically follow that
Ms. Rowling's super most intentions are teachings for adults.

You enjoy blithering?

From time to time but not this time ;)
A link for you.
http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-09-034-f
--
http://harrypotterforseekers.com/alchemy/alchemy.php
<http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/resources/documents/chymical_wedding.pdf>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harrypotterforseekers/messages?o=1

Rowling must denounce the spirit of witchcraft!

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Carrie
Sidney, like some others who participate on newsgroups, doesn't seem to
really care about what the topic is or what others thing or don't think. The
whole point is to get something going so he can make out how right he is and
how wrong they are. Over and over and over.
Actually, does anyone know that Sidney is a "he"? He writes a lot like
someone else I used to know on newsgroups, who would use fake IDs but was a
woman. At least so I was told.

[delete]


Just had a very typical download for recent days on these groups:

19 articles available, 19 killed.

And get this: this mental case troll thinks its bothering me.

<snicker>

I only happened to see "Carrie" because I was throwing out the Trash.

[Tom]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Carrie
Sidney, like some others who participate on newsgroups, doesn't seem to
really care about what the topic is or what others thing or don't think. The
whole point is to get something going so he can make out how right he is and
how wrong they are. Over and over and over.
Actually, does anyone know that Sidney is a "he"? He writes a lot like
someone else I used to know on newsgroups, who would use fake IDs but was a
woman. At least so I was told.

[delete]
19 articles available, 19 killed.
And get this: this mental case troll thinks its bothering me.
<snicker>
I only happened to see "Carrie" because I was throwing out the Trash.

While you are tossing your trash, make sure you put the rubbers that
you use to fuck your 12yo BFs up the ass in there too.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Post by Carrie

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

Rowling hides nothing because the boks don't have enough depth to hide
anything. She fucks up the lot by confusing alchemy with magick.

I don't understand how in the world you have come to that conclusion
unless it is you who parallels the two.

Sidney, like some others who participate on newsgroups, doesn't seem to
really care about what the topic is or what others thing or don't think. The
whole point is to get something going so he can make out how right he is and
how wrong they are. Over and over and over.
Actually, does anyone know that Sidney is a "he"? He writes a lot like
someone else I used to know on newsgroups, who would use fake IDs but was a
woman. At least so I was told.

It is a Clique!
A GANG!
So Far I count 6, but it is HARD to tell with them playing so many Sock Puppets
at once!

[Carrie]

Post by Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

Post by Carrie

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

Rowling hides nothing because the boks don't have enough depth to hide
anything. She fucks up the lot by confusing alchemy with magick.

I don't understand how in the world you have come to that conclusion
unless it is you who parallels the two.

Sidney, like some others who participate on newsgroups, doesn't seem to
really care about what the topic is or what others thing or don't think. The
whole point is to get something going so he can make out how right he is and
how wrong they are. Over and over and over.
Actually, does anyone know that Sidney is a "he"? He writes a lot like
someone else I used to know on newsgroups, who would use fake IDs but was a
woman. At least so I was told.

It is a Clique!
A GANG!
So Far I count 6, but it is HARD to tell with them playing so many Sock Puppets
at once!

It's kind of fun in a way. If I have time to skim over them. I always
notice you because I like your name LOL

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Post by Carrie

Post by Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

Post by Carrie

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
Summarily, Ms. Rowling wrote across several age groups and certainly
the books matured in both complexity and verbiage as they proceeded
from PS/SS to DH. They are both "kid's books" and adult books and it
is my position that the alchemical and (hidden) moral nature are most
definitely aimed at adults.

Rowling hides nothing because the boks don't have enough depth to hide
anything. She fucks up the lot by confusing alchemy with magick.

I don't understand how in the world you have come to that conclusion
unless it is you who parallels the two.

Sidney, like some others who participate on newsgroups, doesn't seem to
really care about what the topic is or what others thing or don't think. The
whole point is to get something going so he can make out how right he is and
how wrong they are. Over and over and over.
Actually, does anyone know that Sidney is a "he"? He writes a lot like
someone else I used to know on newsgroups, who would use fake IDs but was a
woman. At least so I was told.

It is a Clique!
A GANG!
So Far I count 6, but it is HARD to tell with them playing so many Sock Puppets
at once!

It's kind of fun in a way. If I have time to skim over them. I always
notice you because I like your name LOL

TY!
Azure, is was MY Chosen, Azure is Short for Azurite, a "LIVING ROCK", and Blue
was my Mothers and My Favorite Color!
LADY, is a SOCIAL TITLE given my House, by the Community, for Services
Rendered!
As for it's CONNECTION to the LEGENDS, I had NO IDEA, on that what so ever!
At Least until I did my Family Tree, and found the teachings of the LAKE, and
the Gall's!

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

They are kid's books that as an adult I only read because of their
so-called magickal content.

Mr. Lambe, were Aesop's fables for children only?

To SID they are!

[VD]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
I find Shakespeare entertaining, do you not?

You find Shakespeare magickal? Says a lot about you. And what you
don't know about magick.

I will be the first to admit that I am a disgrace when it comes to
"magickalness". I simply do not find anything that is worth pursuing
in this "field".

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe
The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

Then you read them from an entirely secular view point.

I read them from an entirely magickal viewpoint.

No wonder your experience was so blemished :( the "magick" in Harry
Potter is pure fantasy as you have agreed. That's is a lot of work to
become familiar with the fantasy of magick when one is a "truly
magickal Wiccan, Mr. Lambe. ;) I applaud your efforts.

I would suggest three courses of action.

1) Re-read the texts understanding first their alchemical nature.
2) Re-read the texts for pure enjoyment.
3) Don't re-read the texts ;)

You were once enlightened to magick. Try Harry again and become a
seeker of something that is real, worthwhile and fulfilling. Read the
books through the eyes of an alchemist, Mr. Lambe.

[Tom]

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
I find Shakespeare entertaining, do you not?

You find Shakespeare magickal? Says a lot about you. And what you
don't know about magick.

I will be the first to admit that I am a disgrace when it comes to
"magickalness". I simply do not find anything that is worth pursuing
in this "field".

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe
The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

Then you read them from an entirely secular view point.

I read them from an entirely magickal viewpoint.

No wonder your experience was so blemished :( the "magick" in Harry
Potter is pure fantasy as you have agreed. That's is a lot of work to
become familiar with the fantasy of magick when one is a "truly
magickal Wiccan, Mr. Lambe. ;) I applaud your efforts.
I would suggest three courses of action.
1) Re-read the texts understanding first their alchemical nature.
2) Re-read the texts for pure enjoyment.
3) Don't re-read the texts ;)
You were once enlightened to magick. Try Harry again and become a
seeker of something that is real, worthwhile and fulfilling. Read the
books through the eyes of an alchemist, Mr. Lambe.

If a person really existed, does that mean anything alleged about them
must be true?

If historical documents really exist, does that mean what they say is
true? Is an occult tradition real than it is to tell whether or not a
document is real.

Your assertion that changes in your internal representation of reality
cause direct changes in the world outside your personal experience is
not supported by any verifiable evidence.
Which means... what?

[Sirius Black]

Post by Tom
If a person really existed, does that mean anything alleged about them
must be true?
If historical documents really exist, does that mean what they say is
true? Is an occult tradition real than it is to tell whether or not a
document is real.
Your assertion that changes in your internal representation of reality
cause direct changes in the world outside your personal experience is
not supported by any verifiable evidence.
Which means... what?

Thank you, Tom. lol

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Drop the "B", on em!

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
I find Shakespeare entertaining, do you not?

You find Shakespeare magickal? Says a lot about you. And what you
don't know about magick.

I will be the first to admit that I am a disgrace when it comes to
"magickalness". I simply do not find anything that is worth pursuing
in this "field".

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe
The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

Then you read them from an entirely secular view point.

I read them from an entirely magickal viewpoint.

No wonder your experience was so blemished :( the "magick" in Harry
Potter is pure fantasy as you have agreed. That's is a lot of work to
become familiar with the fantasy of magick when one is a "truly
magickal Wiccan, Mr. Lambe. ;) I applaud your efforts.
I would suggest three courses of action.
1) Re-read the texts understanding first their alchemical nature.
2) Re-read the texts for pure enjoyment.
3) Don't re-read the texts ;)
You were once enlightened to magick. Try Harry again and become a
seeker of something that is real, worthwhile and fulfilling. Read the
books through the eyes of an alchemist, Mr. Lambe.
--
http://harrypotterforseekers.com/alchemy/alchemy.php
<http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/resources/documents/chymical_wedding.pdf>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harrypotterforseekers/messages?o=1

[VD]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

I guarantee you she does.

Are you Rowling?

Are you Sidney Lambe?

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by VD
Mr. Lambe, did you truly read the HP Septology? ;)

Are you calling me a Liar?

Not with that wink added to the end of my post. Think of my question
in a more positive light, Mr. Lambe. Aren't I really asking why a
person with an obvious level of intelligence would confuse such
distinctly different concepts (magick and alchemy) in a book which
treats one very straightforward (wizardry) yet hides the other
(alchemy)?

[Sidney Lambe]

On alt.religion.wicca, VD <***@rocketmail.comHERE> wrote:
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Subject: How Does Magick Work in Harry Potter's World

That's quite a stupid question.

It's like asking: "How do the ruby slippers work in
the land of Oz."

[Sirius Black]

On alt.religion.wicca, Sirius Black changed the attribution to the

Subject: How Does Magick Work in Harry Potter's World

That's quite a stupid question.

Except it didn't come from Dix although your lame attempt to alter the
thread fails at doing that.

[VD]

Subject: How Does Magick Work in Harry Potter's World
That's quite a stupid question.
It's like asking: "How do the ruby slippers work in
the land of Oz."

Very much so ;)

[Chan Welbourne]

Post by VD

Subject: How Does Magick Work in Harry Potter's World
That's quite a stupid question.
It's like asking: "How do the ruby slippers work in
the land of Oz."

Very much so ;)

The discussion of majic in Harry Potter should be limited to its
entertainment value. That's a good discussion because their is a heck
of a lot of entertainment in the wizarding, majic and other concepts.
But that's where it ends. Entertainment.

Thank God she wrote an entertaining set of books, look at the value
that has. :D

[Carrie]

Post by Chan Welbourne

Post by VD

Subject: How Does Magick Work in Harry Potter's World
That's quite a stupid question.
It's like asking: "How do the ruby slippers work in the land of Oz."

Very much so ;)

The discussion of majic in Harry Potter should be limited to its
entertainment value. That's a good discussion because their is a heck of a
lot of entertainment in the wizarding, majic and other concepts. But
that's where it ends. Entertainment.
Thank God she wrote an entertaining set of books, look at the value that
has. :D

She got a lot of kids interested in reading.

[VD]

Post by Carrie

Post by Chan Welbourne

Post by VD

Subject: How Does Magick Work in Harry Potter's World
That's quite a stupid question.
It's like asking: "How do the ruby slippers work in the land of Oz."

Very much so ;)

The discussion of majic in Harry Potter should be limited to its
entertainment value. That's a good discussion because their is a heck of a
lot of entertainment in the wizarding, majic and other concepts. But
that's where it ends. Entertainment.
Thank God she wrote an entertaining set of books, look at the value that
has. :D

She got a lot of kids interested in reading.

An important step for if one doesn't read Harry, one doesn't have the
opportunity to experience (the alchemical) Harry Potter.

I don't wish to diffuse Mr. Lambe's subject "How Does Magick Work in
Harry Potter's World?" so I would add that Carrie is correct and Mr.
Lambe's question, as Chan has mentioned, is part of the fun quotient
albeit it truly does end there.

[Carrie]

Post by Sidney Lambe
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Subject: How Does Magick Work in Harry Potter's World

That's quite a stupid question.
It's like asking: "How do the ruby slippers work in
the land of Oz."

How do Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse talk?

Post by Sidney Lambe
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Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.

[Carrie]

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

Post by Sidney Lambe
In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

Don't know your "Carrie" but there is nothing looney or New Age about
writings of great spiritual value being entertaining.

I am on the talk religion course-miracles group that keeps getting cross
posted to other groups for some reason. I think Sidney (for one) gets
bored with just one group. Some of the other groups look interesting,
themselves, but also seems to be so much fighting and personal attack stuff
going on.
On the same topic I think the Twilight books are inspired, too. if nothing
else they teach about the power of LOVE and how we don't have to see
differences, and enemies and not get along. Though of course the "nice"
vampires in it also had no so nice enemies.
I came across a TV show one night on the "Trinity Network". It seems to
be a Catholic Channel. One woman has a weekly show, she is kind of uptight
with short, straight white blonde hair. To me, she comes across as
delusional LOL She was talking about the Twilight books (I'm sure she
already did Harry Potter) and how they are works of the devil and
programming young girls to give their soul to "the devil". I gues she
totally missed the idea of it being a LOVE STORY and everyone (at least the
nice vampires and werewolves) trying to have peace and get along.
She was all excited about this, her eyes gleaming as she talked about
it. How the author, Stephenie Myers woke ffrom a dream about Bella and
Edward in a meadow. One a young girl and one a vampire. of course the devil
had put this idea in her mind when she was sleeping.
I see people like this (blonde woman) and think "get a life". But, she
seems to have people who believe her she has guests on who agree and join
her in it.

Post by VD
I find Shakespeare entertaining, do you not?

Post by Sidney Lambe
The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

Then you read them from an entirely secular view point.

Post by Sidney Lambe
The only really good thing about them is that they have
introduced the raw concepts of magick to an entire generation.

I would say that may be the least of their value if you are defining
"magick" as a Wiccan.

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

I guarantee you she does.
Mr. Lambe, did you truly read the HP Septology? ;)
--
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[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Post by Carrie

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

Post by Sidney Lambe
In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

Don't know your "Carrie" but there is nothing looney or New Age about
writings of great spiritual value being entertaining.

I am on the talk religion course-miracles group that keeps getting cross
posted to other groups for some reason. I think Sidney (for one) gets
bored with just one group.

No, just can't post SOCK GAMES as Much as he does, with OUT using Multiple
Groups at once, or he wouldn't finish his work load!

[Carrie]

Post by Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

Post by Carrie

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

Post by Sidney Lambe
In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

Don't know your "Carrie" but there is nothing looney or New Age about
writings of great spiritual value being entertaining.

I am on the talk religion course-miracles group that keeps getting cross
posted to other groups for some reason. I think Sidney (for one) gets
bored with just one group.

No, just can't post SOCK GAMES as Much as he does, with OUT using Multiple
Groups at once, or he wouldn't finish his work load!

I don't think Sidney Lambe is the real name of the "real" one posting.
If it is, he also went throug a lot of names before this. He might even be a
she. Looking in archives there are other names for the same person.
And, as the saying goes..."what's in a name?" We read and respond (or
not) to the words on the posts on our computer monitor. Usually don't know
much, if anything about the one writing it. Only our perception of them.

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

Post by Carrie

Post by Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

Post by Carrie

Post by VD

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

She would be correct ;) If in no other way than how fantasy splits
Good and Evil noticeably v.s our "natural" world where they are often
compressed.

Post by Sidney Lambe
In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

Don't know your "Carrie" but there is nothing looney or New Age about
writings of great spiritual value being entertaining.

I am on the talk religion course-miracles group that keeps getting cross
posted to other groups for some reason. I think Sidney (for one) gets
bored with just one group.

No, just can't post SOCK GAMES as Much as he does, with OUT using Multiple
Groups at once, or he wouldn't finish his work load!

I don't think Sidney Lambe is the real name of the "real" one posting.

No it is a HACKER CLIQUE, a "GANG"!

Post by Carrie
If it is, he also went throug a lot of names before this. He might even be a
she. Looking in archives there are other names for the same person.

Yeah!
But if you check the Archives of the Cross Posted Garbage you can find he works
as a "PAIR" some Martin and Lewis, Freak Show!
When they get a Phish to Bite, they have at least a 3rd who Joins in Gutting the
Kook, to bash their Faith, hopefully to get them to "Commit Suicide"!
That is why they call places of Employment, and their Home, and attack others
who try to communicate with their intended Patsy!

Post by Carrie
And, as the saying goes..."what's in a name?" We read and respond (or
not) to the words on the posts on our computer monitor. Usually don't know
much, if anything about the one writing it. Only our perception of them.

[VD]

Post by Carrie
On the same topic I think the Twilight books are inspired, too. if
nothing else they teach about the power of LOVE and how we don't
have to see differences, and enemies and not get along.

"The day that Twilight is considered true literature is the day I give
up completely." ;>)

[Sirius Black]

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

So should you, Wiccan. If you had read HP with your Inner Eye and if
you had straight facts on Rowling, you'd know better.

Or you could be trolling again. Yeah, that's it I bet.

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Sirius Black

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

So should you, Wiccan. If you had read HP with your Inner Eye and if
you had straight facts on Rowling, you'd know better.
Or you could be trolling again. Yeah, that's it I bet.

Who do you think you are fooling?

None of you could make water wet with the supertitious nonsense
you call "magick".

[Sirius Black]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sirius Black

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

So should you, Wiccan. If you had read HP with your Inner Eye and if
you had straight facts on Rowling, you'd know better.
Or you could be trolling again. Yeah, that's it I bet.

Who do you think you are fooling?

No one and if someone is "fooled" then they are the fools since I
speak only the facts.

Post by Sidney Lambe
None of you could make water wet with the supertitious nonsense
you call "magick".

No one said we could an afh-p.

Nice troll though.

[VD]

Post by Sidney Lambe
None of you could make water wet with the supertitious nonsense
you call "magick".

Mr. Lambe, I have invited you more than once to join our conversations
on alt.fan.harry-potter as a regular participant and if you had, you
would know that your statement is...charmingly "Riddikulus" ;>)

I can speak for the regular participants both from their online and
offline views and none believe Harry Potter was a magickal. Matter of
factually, I am absolutely certain that none believes that Harry
Potter actually exists, wizard or not.

I don't understand though why you would need magic or majick or magick
or wizardry to make water wet in the first place. ;)

[Sidney Lambe]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sirius Black

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

So should you, Wiccan. If you had read HP with your Inner Eye and if
you had straight facts on Rowling, you'd know better.
Or you could be trolling again. Yeah, that's it I bet.

Who do you think you are fooling?
None of you could make water wet with the supertitious nonsense
you call "magick".

Just had a very typical download for recent days on these groups:

18 articles available, 18 killed.

And get this: this mental case troll thinks its bothering me.

<snicker>

[Carrie]

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Sheldon7
Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

You need to talk to Carrie and listenn to her babble about what the
Harry Potter books are about. She thinks they are "metaphysical"
teachings. In a good way. Helping people understand.

Wow, I just wrote that before I read this. I didn't realize you read
what I write or paid attention to it.

Post by Sidney Lambe
In the guise of entertainment and children's books. But she's a looney
New Age styrle.

From you, I take that as a compliment. I'm glad you don't like me or
agree with me, that would make me like you LOL

Post by Sidney Lambe
The HP books are not very well written and are camp satires of
magickal theory and practice. I read them all and it was a
mildly enjoyable exerience.

They are supposedly children's books.

Post by Sidney Lambe
The only really good thing about them is that they have
introduced the raw concepts of magick to an entire generation.

That is my point, too. So, we do agree on something. Like "there is more
going on than a lot of people think there is and see.

Post by Sidney Lambe
Magick and alchemy aren't the same thing Rowling should know better.

Rowling says she "got" the idea of the book, like in a subconscious,
connected to Spirit kind of way. Almost like it was channeled.

Post by Sidney Lambe
--
Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
http://tinyurl.com/63zc9bh - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
All will be well. All manner of things will be well.

[Carrie]

Post by Sheldon7

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Ron Rechtum

Post by Sidney Lambe

Post by Lee Flynn
ACIM Workbook Lesson 178 ~ June 27

[delete]

*PLONK*

Don't you love it when the Jewballs get all huffy while slaughtering
Palestinians and killing their babies?
BTW, Jewball, there is no such thing as sex magick. It's as foolish
and impotent as every other psuedo-magickal practice in the neo-pagan
world.
I suggest that you work on your self-esteem, physical
health, and social skills if you want to get laid.
You are a typical neo-pagan psuedo-magician: an endless
fountain of useless book learning, all of it originating
from people who couldn't make water wet with magick.
Here's a clue for you: just because a book or website
says it's about magick, doesn't mean it is.
Now I'll get back to my 13yo guest and you get back to genocide,
Jewball.
[delete]

Yeah listen to yourself why not lecture us on Harry Potter, you
anti-Zionist bigot.

I like Harry Potter. I think the books are a metaphor for a lot of
things. Like the two "sides" living with each other and not really aware or
the other. Well, the Muggles are aware of the Wizards, but they seem to be
afraid and block it out.
I think the Harry Potter books are inspired.

[Sirius Black]

Post by Carrie
I think the Harry Potter books are inspired.

"Sirius" statement. lol Inspired by whom?

[VD]

Post by Sirius Black

Post by Carrie
I think the Harry Potter books are inspired.

"Sirius" statement. lol Inspired by whom?

That's an interesting and very important question. On the extreme edge
(or is it?), there is a contingent who very vociferously state that
Ms. Rowling was inspired by God (Gnosis).

I fall to some degree in this group. I do not see how anyone, Ms.
Rowling inclusive, could produce such vibrant alchemical and elaborate
Christian symbology without there being a path of influence with
Gnosis.

That path would be through her opened heart, her lily or rosebud, and
this shines to Ms. Rowling's credits. No one is summoned or commanded
to have open pathways, it is something they must due themselves. Peel
back the layers of this life in seeking the next (eternal).

So if Ms. Rowling was inspired, and I firmly believe she was
gnostically, or if she was not, or if she was inspired by nicotine and
caffeine ;), it matters.

It matters resolutely.

[Robert Scott Martin]

Post by VD
I fall to some degree in this group. I do not see how anyone, Ms.
Rowling inclusive, could produce such vibrant alchemical and elaborate
Christian symbology without there being a path of influence with
Gnosis.

Suggest reversing the syllogism to hold off the circular saw (z-z-z):

"'Gnosis' is here defined as the essential seed of patterns that inform
otherwise superficially divergent works like the Harry Potter saga,
Christian symbology or the alchemical corpus."

From here, as we say, the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where
we started, but to actually know the place for once.

Post by VD
That path would be through her opened heart, her lily or rosebud,

I am not personally intimate with the state of JKR's "rosebud," but now
that you mention it, I imagine it is indeed fairly open.

Post by VD
So if Ms. Rowling was inspired, and I firmly believe she was
gnostically, or if she was not, or if she was inspired by nicotine and
caffeine ;), it matters.

Caffeine is after all one of the alchemical sacraments.

[VD]

Post by Robert Scott Martin

Post by VD
I fall to some degree in this group. I do not see how anyone, Ms.
Rowling inclusive, could produce such vibrant alchemical and elaborate
Christian symbology without there being a path of influence with
Gnosis.

"'Gnosis' is here defined as the essential seed of patterns that inform
otherwise superficially divergent works like the Harry Potter saga,
Christian symbology or the alchemical corpus."

Hello Robert, thanks for the comments but I would disagree in your
interpretation of Gnosis as I used the term.

Gnosis, the knowledge of God, is a force that can communicate directly
to each person, regardless of religious systems and traditions.

I mostly rely upon two sources: the teachings of Rijckenborgh and of
Vimala Thakar, whom I had the opportunity to meet during my trip to
India in 1995 while visiting Krishnamurti schools. Both set a clear
and precise separation between ordinary consciousness, cosmic
consciousness, and spiritual consciousness.

Post by Robert Scott Martin
From here, as we say, the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where
we started, but to actually know the place for once.

Again, we would disagree. The seeker doesn't seek to return but to
advance his life to other, higher planes and states of consciousness.

Post by Robert Scott Martin

Post by VD
That path would be through her opened heart, her lily or rosebud,

I am not personally intimate with the state of JKR's "rosebud," but now
that you mention it, I imagine it is indeed fairly open.

Ah, agreement ;)

Post by Robert Scott Martin

Post by VD
So if Ms. Rowling was inspired, and I firmly believe she was
gnostically, or if she was not, or if she was inspired by nicotine and
caffeine ;), it matters.

Caffeine is after all one of the alchemical sacraments.

Along with mugwort and mescaline?

[Robert Scott Martin]

Post by VD
Gnosis, the knowledge of God, is a force that can communicate directly
to each person, regardless of religious systems and traditions.

This is clearer.

I suspect the difference between these formulations is in terms of timing.
I find it more useful to view the "religious systems and traditions" as
equally rooted in "gnosis" [charisma] as well -- only somewhat more fixed
[routinized] by their passage through this world.

Thus the question of whether JKR read the right books is avoided by
establishing "gnosis" as the unitary source from which both JKR & the
right books emanate, separated only in time.

But too often "gnosis" like God is used as a placeholder word ultimately
signifying nothing. You put an admirable pin in it here. Let's keep that
pin in it. It is arguably our role in creation to put a pin in it.

So "gnosis" is what's shared by work of appreciable vibrancy and
complexity.

We call this shared quality "knowledge-of-God."

OK.

Post by VD
I mostly rely upon two sources: the teachings of Rijckenborgh and of
Vimala Thakar, whom I had the opportunity to meet during my trip to
India in 1995 while visiting Krishnamurti schools. Both set a clear
and precise separation between ordinary consciousness, cosmic
consciousness, and spiritual consciousness.

Can't say I am familiar with these particular Hindus, Jiddu K
notwithstanding of course.

Do you know the work of Mr Kamala Jnana?

Post by VD

Post by Robert Scott Martin
Caffeine is after all one of the alchemical sacraments.

Along with mugwort and mescaline?

Around here it's wormwood and blueberry, but yes, you've got the idea.
I suspect some people drink a lot of butterbeer.

[VD]

Post by Robert Scott Martin

Post by VD
Gnosis, the knowledge of God, is a force that can communicate
directly to each person, regardless of religious systems and
traditions.

This is clearer.
I suspect the difference between these formulations is in terms of timing.
I find it more useful to view the "religious systems and traditions" as
equally rooted in "gnosis" [charisma] as well -- only somewhat more fixed
[routinized] by their passage through this world.
Thus the question of whether JKR read the right books is avoided by
establishing "gnosis" as the unitary source from which both JKR & the
right books emanate, separated only in time.

This is the question which stemmed from Carrie"s statement that HP is
"inspired." Yes, I would agree that inspiration would be preeminent to
education but in Ms. Rowling's case -take alone her exquisite ring
composition formulation - she was well schooled in English lit.

<https://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.harry-potter/browse_frm/thread/367ac3d3d1a68f37#>

Post by Robert Scott Martin
But too often "gnosis" like God is used as a placeholder word ultimately
signifying nothing. You put an admirable pin in it here. Let's keep that
pin in it. It is arguably our role in creation to put a pin in it.
So "gnosis" is what's shared by work of appreciable vibrancy and
complexity.
We call this shared quality "knowledge-of-God."

What are the global magnetic fields for except the transport of this
global consciousness. ;)

Post by Robert Scott Martin
OK.

Thanks for the compliment ;)

[Tom]

Post by VD

Post by Sirius Black

Post by Carrie
I think the Harry Potter books are inspired.

"Sirius" statement. lol Inspired by whom?

That's an interesting and very important question. On the extreme edge
(or is it?), there is a contingent who very vociferously state that
Ms. Rowling was inspired by God (Gnosis).
I fall to some degree in this group. I do not see how anyone, Ms.
Rowling inclusive, could produce such vibrant alchemical and elaborate
Christian symbology without there being a path of influence with
Gnosis.
That path would be through her opened heart, her lily or rosebud, and
this shines to Ms. Rowling's credits. No one is summoned or commanded
to have open pathways, it is something they must due themselves. Peel
back the layers of this life in seeking the next (eternal).
So if Ms. Rowling was inspired, and I firmly believe she was
gnostically, or if she was not, or if she was inspired by nicotine and
caffeine ;), it matters.
It matters resolutely.

Even when a book is part of a series it stands on its own or falls
down on its own, no matter who wrote it.

It's one thing to say "I've had good luck with Chevys so I'll take a
chance on another" but something entirely different to say "I'll only
ever drive a Chevy so you can keep the rest".

There is a mindset that says "this is MY football team" or "this is MY
make of automobile", or "MY political party", that gives itself over
without further thought to being owned by a specific football team,
one kind of car, or one author or band or political party.

It is that mindset that I hold in contempt, not authors in general and
not readers who have authorial preferences; there is a difference
between preference and loyalty.

Bah! You are still full of shit and have no /facts/ regarding this
"Gnosis" or the influence thereof and within.

[VD]

Post by Tom

Post by VD

Post by Sirius Black

Post by Carrie
I think the Harry Potter books are inspired.

"Sirius" statement. lol Inspired by whom?

That's an interesting and very important question. On the extreme edge
(or is it?), there is a contingent who very vociferously state that
Ms. Rowling was inspired by God (Gnosis).
I fall to some degree in this group. I do not see how anyone, Ms.
Rowling inclusive, could produce such vibrant alchemical and elaborate
Christian symbology without there being a path of influence with
Gnosis.
That path would be through her opened heart, her lily or rosebud, and
this shines to Ms. Rowling's credits. No one is summoned or commanded
to have open pathways, it is something they must due themselves. Peel
back the layers of this life in seeking the next (eternal).
So if Ms. Rowling was inspired, and I firmly believe she was
gnostically, or if she was not, or if she was inspired by nicotine and
caffeine ;), it matters.
It matters resolutely.

Even when a book is part of a series it stands on its own or falls
down on its own, no matter who wrote it.
It's one thing to say "I've had good luck with Chevys so I'll take a
chance on another" but something entirely different to say "I'll only
ever drive a Chevy so you can keep the rest".
There is a mindset that says "this is MY football team" or "this is MY
make of automobile", or "MY political party", that gives itself over
without further thought to being owned by a specific football team,
one kind of car, or one author or band or political party.
It is that mindset that I hold in contempt, not authors in general and
not readers who have authorial preferences; there is a difference
between preference and loyalty.

Nice rant, Tom ;>) albeit completely off topic and without merit...on
any topic as far as I can tell.

Post by Tom
Bah! You are still full of shit and have no /facts/ regarding this
"Gnosis" or the influence thereof and within.

"Fact" as in scientific "fact", you are quite correct. By definition I
would thing of "Gnosis".

[Tom]

Post by VD

Post by Tom

Post by VD

Post by Sirius Black

Post by Carrie
I think the Harry Potter books are inspired.

"Sirius" statement. lol Inspired by whom?

That's an interesting and very important question. On the extreme edge
(or is it?), there is a contingent who very vociferously state that
Ms. Rowling was inspired by God (Gnosis).
I fall to some degree in this group. I do not see how anyone, Ms.
Rowling inclusive, could produce such vibrant alchemical and elaborate
Christian symbology without there being a path of influence with
Gnosis.
That path would be through her opened heart, her lily or rosebud, and
this shines to Ms. Rowling's credits. No one is summoned or commanded
to have open pathways, it is something they must due themselves. Peel
back the layers of this life in seeking the next (eternal).
So if Ms. Rowling was inspired, and I firmly believe she was
gnostically, or if she was not, or if she was inspired by nicotine and
caffeine ;), it matters.
It matters resolutely.

Even when a book is part of a series it stands on its own or falls
down on its own, no matter who wrote it.
It's one thing to say "I've had good luck with Chevys so I'll take a
chance on another" but something entirely different to say "I'll only
ever drive a Chevy so you can keep the rest".
There is a mindset that says "this is MY football team" or "this is MY
make of automobile", or "MY political party", that gives itself over
without further thought to being owned by a specific football team,
one kind of car, or one author or band or political party.
It is that mindset that I hold in contempt, not authors in general and
not readers who have authorial preferences; there is a difference
between preference and loyalty.

Nice rant, Tom ;>) albeit completely off topic and without merit...on
any topic as far as I can tell.

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Bah! You are still full of shit and have no /facts/ regarding this
"Gnosis" or the influence thereof and within.

"Fact" as in scientific "fact", you are quite correct. By definition I
would thing of "Gnosis".

Fact as in you are full of factual shit, Dicks. You and your Potter
Queers and your ramblings about magick and alchemy as if you know a
fucking thing or none.

Bah! The only fact here is that your a nutter.

[VD]

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I think the Harry Potter books are inspired.

"Sirius" statement. lol Inspired by whom?

That's an interesting and very important question. On the extreme edge
(or is it?), there is a contingent who very vociferously state that
Ms. Rowling was inspired by God (Gnosis).
I fall to some degree in this group. I do not see how anyone, Ms.
Rowling inclusive, could produce such vibrant alchemical and elaborate
Christian symbology without there being a path of influence with
Gnosis.
That path would be through her opened heart, her lily or rosebud, and
this shines to Ms. Rowling's credits. No one is summoned or commanded
to have open pathways, it is something they must due themselves. Peel
back the layers of this life in seeking the next (eternal).
So if Ms. Rowling was inspired, and I firmly believe she was
gnostically, or if she was not, or if she was inspired by nicotine and
caffeine ;), it matters.
It matters resolutely.

Even when a book is part of a series it stands on its own or falls
down on its own, no matter who wrote it.
It's one thing to say "I've had good luck with Chevys so I'll take a
chance on another" but something entirely different to say "I'll only
ever drive a Chevy so you can keep the rest".
There is a mindset that says "this is MY football team" or "this is MY
make of automobile", or "MY political party", that gives itself over
without further thought to being owned by a specific football team,
one kind of car, or one author or band or political party.
It is that mindset that I hold in contempt, not authors in general and
not readers who have authorial preferences; there is a difference
between preference and loyalty.

Nice rant, Tom ;>) albeit completely off topic and without merit...on
any topic as far as I can tell.

Post by Tom
Bah! You are still full of shit and have no /facts/ regarding this
"Gnosis" or the influence thereof and within.

"Fact" as in scientific "fact", you are quite correct. By definition I
would thing of "Gnosis".

Fact as in you are full of factual shit, Dicks. You and your Potter
Queers and your ramblings about magick and alchemy as if you know a
fucking thing or none.

Closer to none than some I would acquiesce.

Post by Tom
Bah! The only fact here is that your a nutter.

Good Day, Tom.

[Absorbed]

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It is that mindset that I hold in contempt, not authors in general and
not readers who have authorial preferences; there is a difference
between preference and loyalty.

Nice rant, Tom ;>) albeit completely off topic and without merit...on
any topic as far as I can tell.

Post by Tom
Bah! You are still full of shit and have no /facts/ regarding this
"Gnosis" or the influence thereof and within.

"Fact" as in scientific "fact", you are quite correct. By definition I
would thing of "Gnosis".

Fact as in you are full of factual shit, Dicks. You and your Potter
Queers and your ramblings about magick and alchemy as if you know a
fucking thing or none.

Closer to none than some I would acquiesce.

Post by Tom
Bah! The only fact here is that your a nutter.

Good Day, Tom.

Point, game , match, set Tom-Christ !!! Wins again !!!

[Wilford Dumont]

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Point, game , match, set Tom-Christ !!! Wins again !!!
--
I am absorbed with Tom and I am proudly Tom's sockpuppet. Tom-Christ
is within me.

Majickals..harumph.

[Tom]

Post by VD
Good Day, Tom.

Bah! What else would be expected from a chondocilic invention of his
own mind-games.

There is also no evidence whatsoever that J K Rowling herself believes
in or practices alchemy alchemically or (Al) chemically and so has no
"alchemical underpinnings" of her own albeit hew pseudo-wisdom
(al)chemically. In real words, you're as full of shitcrap as she is.

Bah!

Her demonstrated knowledge of alchemy seems no greater than what a
reasonably intelligent person would find using any decent encyclopedia
as a reference book outside of me who could *write* reference books on
goddamned near anything I goddamned deisres.

"Facts". Bah. You're not dealing in facts here at all.

Bah!


Bah!

[Sirius Black]

Post by VD
Good Day, Tom.

Bah!
Bah!
Bah.
Bah!
Bah!

Only three needed for sheep, Tommie. lol

[Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole]

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