Is reincarnation so? "Birth was not the beginning, and death is not the end" "It is at this moment,that complete salvation is offered you"

[course zealot]

Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

[course zealot]

"It cannot be too strongly emphasized that this course aims at a complete reversal
of thought. When this is finally accomplished, issues such as the validity of
reincarnation become meaningless.

Until then, they are likely to be merely controversial. The teacher of God is,
therefore, wise to step away from all such questions, for he has much to teach and
learn apart from them."

It seems to say but only because they are likely to be controversial.


"He should both learn and teach that theoretical issues but waste time, draining
it away from its appointed purpose. If there are aspects to any concept or belief
that will be helpful, he will be told about it. He will also be told how to use
it. What more need he know?"
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Yet:

"A theoretical foundation such as the text provides is necessary as a framework to
make the exercises in this workbook meaningful."
- acim, workbook, first sentence

It would seem, without a theoretical foundation of analytical concepts, we are
sort of lost. Meditate on peace, or meditate on light? Or Chant? The Course
doesn't mention Chanting.

Are we trying to be religious scientists? separate the wheat from the chaff, etc.
How is science not the answer? It would just seem that
materialist/atheist/deathists scientists just disregard the self. Such as one
whom believes in creationism, they start with preconcieved ideas. It's one thing
to try to prove a hypothesis, but perhaps they weren't good scientists _enough_.
God can have no meaning without a concept of YOU. Quantum mechanics is now
proving the SELF, and proving that an experiment has a different result when an
observer is present.

YOU exist, and God can have no meaning apart from you.

A Course in Miracles teaches you are the only one in the Universe. But then, so
is that little ant out there, and so is everybody else. Responsible for
everything that's ever happened, is happening, or ever will happen. What a big
responsibility, to be the savior of the Universe.

God loves you. Why don't you love yourself?

“a deep sleep fell upon Adam”. ... Mrs. Eddy was correct in emphasizing that
nowhere is there any reference made to his waking up. While Christian Science is
clearly incomplete, this point is much in its favor." - acim Urtext

It's solipsism vs. duality.

What happens if two miracle workers disagree?

I want you to know you're the only one in the Universe and so am I.
What will we see, if we disagree, upon the color of the sky.

"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a
child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a
mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know
just as I also am known."
1 Corinthians 13:11

When the figure in the mirror moves, who moved? The answer is obvious.

What is salvation but to overcome the world, to know God, or both?

And what is to overcome the world, but to overcome health, wealth, and people
problems? And what are people problems, but lawlessness, oppression, and war?

When Jesus says "I have overcome the world," in A Course in Miracles and the
bible, does he mean also he has overcome the adversary?

When infinite power chooses infinite power, the infinite power choosing the other
infinite power negatively _ought_ to loose, and when everyone loves one another,
Solipsism wins, as true relationships say "what do *you* want?," "no, what do
*you* want?"

but apparently these people are unintelligent, are crazy, and don't love us.

Are you saying they're just going to obey us because we love them or something?
Granted, as Anne Frank says, all people are good at heart. If you think you have
a heart of darkness, because other's have hurt you, and you thus want to hurt
others, you need to know, that you're only hurting yourself more, if you ever will
waken to your right mind in this lifetime, before you die. You don't _want_ other
people to be made sad, and yet law enforcement even take jobs as sadists.

Are we still to use miracles for war?

How do Moses' war miracles - striking the Egyptians first born dead, swamping the
Egyptian army in the Red Sea, etc. compare to Jesus' miracles, who never hurt anyone:

"And as they went, they entered a village of the Samaritans, to prepare for Him.
53 But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to
Jerusalem. 54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do
You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as
Elijah did?”
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of
spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but
to save them.” And they went to another village."
- Luke 9:52

"47 And while He was still speaking, behold, a multitude; and he who was called
Judas, one of the twelve, went before them and drew near to Jesus to kiss Him. 48
But Jesus said to him, “Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?”
49 When those around Him saw what was going to happen, they said to Him, “Lord,
shall we strike with the sword?” 50 And one of them struck the servant of the high
priest and cut off his right ear.
51 But Jesus answered and said, “Permit even this.” And He touched his ear and
healed him." - Luke 22:47

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Keeping this current.

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Keeping this current.

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Keeping this current.

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Keeping this current.

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Keeping this current.

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Bump

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Bump

[course zealot]

Post by course zealot
Does this mean that the teacher of God should not believe in reincarnation
himself, or discuss it with others who do? The answer is, certainly not! If he
does believe in reincarnation, it would be a mistake for him to renounce the
belief unless his internal Teacher so advised. And this is most unlikely. He might
be advised that he is misusing the belief in some way that is detrimental to his
pupil's advance or his own. Reinterpretation would then be recommended, because it
is necessary. All that must be recognized, however, is that birth was not the
beginning, and death is not the end. Yet even this much is not required of the
beginner. He need merely accept the idea that what he knows is not necessarily all
there is to learn. His journey has begun.
The emphasis of this course always remains the same;--it is at this moment that
complete salvation is offered you, and it is at this moment that you can accept
it. This is still your one responsibility. Atonement might be equated with total
escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future. Heaven is here.
There is nowhere else. Heaven is now. There is no other time. No teaching that
does not lead to this is of concern to God's teachers. All beliefs will point to
this if properly interpreted. In this sense, it can be said that their truth lies
in their usefulness. All beliefs that lead to progress should be honored. This is
the sole criterion this course requires. No more than this is necessary.
acim, manual for teachers, sec.24, is reincarnation so?

Bump