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Does anyone understand this?
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Carrie
2010-08-31 16:56:32 UTC
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What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.

http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666

I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Darfash
2010-09-01 17:17:55 UTC
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Post by Carrie
What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666
I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Have you listened to any Master Teacher yet, check him out.
Carrie
2010-09-01 17:43:19 UTC
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Post by Carrie
What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666
I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Have you listened to any Master Teacher yet, check him out.

I can't understand Master Teacher either....
Darfash
2010-09-02 11:28:48 UTC
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Post by Darfash
Post by Carrie
What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666
I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Have you listened to any Master Teacher yet, check him out.
I can't understand Master Teacher either....
I and others have the same problem . . . but I just put it down to my ego
rejecting the truth. I find it easier to listen or watch Paul (Raj) than the
Master Teacher but both contain the same truth. I have the same problem
sometimes when reading the text . . don't get upset by it.
Carrie
2010-09-02 15:34:11 UTC
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Post by Carrie
What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666
I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Have you listened to any Master Teacher yet, check him out.
I can't understand Master Teacher either....
I and others have the same problem . . . but I just put it down to my ego
rejecting the truth. I find it easier to listen or watch Paul (Raj) than the
Master Teacher but both contain the same truth. I have the same problem
sometimes when reading the text . . don't get upset by it.

I have no problem with the text, I've had the ACIM books for almost 20
years. And some teachers do help clarify it.
Some I hear/see as just words. Droning on and on. In the case of Raj, most
of the ACIM workshops before this last one, were about raising almost a
million dollars so the "foundation" could buy (outright) a new, more
luxurious home. Seems like this shouldn't be called "ACIM workshop". The
main purpose of the foundation is to raise money for the foundation.
I think the overall answer is, no matter what they call it, ACIM is "self
study" and that's where it should be and stay.
Teachers of it, shouldn't try and explain it, they should stress asking
for one's own answers. They would have very short talks, and workshops, and
couldn't justify asking for money to support them (LOL)
Carrie
2010-09-02 15:35:39 UTC
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Post by Darfash
Post by Carrie
What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666
I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Have you listened to any Master Teacher yet, check him out.
I can't understand Master Teacher either....
I and others have the same problem . . . but I just put it down to my ego
rejecting the truth. I find it easier to listen or watch Paul (Raj) than the
Master Teacher but both contain the same truth. I have the same problem
sometimes when reading the text . . don't get upset by it.

And, the course does say words are ego... form
It's the content that teaches. Not saying those who get something from
"words" and supporting them, are wrong. If they get something that feels
good from it.
To each his own
Who is running Endeavor now that MT is no longer "in form"?
Darfash
2010-09-02 15:58:54 UTC
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Post by Darfash
Post by Carrie
What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666
I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Have you listened to any Master Teacher yet, check him out.
I can't understand Master Teacher either....
I and others have the same problem . . . but I just put it down to my ego
rejecting the truth. I find it easier to listen or watch Paul (Raj) than the
Master Teacher but both contain the same truth. I have the same problem
sometimes when reading the text . . don't get upset by it.
And, the course does say words are ego... form
It's the content that teaches. Not saying those who get something from
"words" and supporting them, are wrong. If they get something that feels
good from it.
To each his own
Who is running Endeavor now that MT is no longer "in form"?
I've no idea who is running Endeavour now or what the Foundation is up to. I
try (hard) not to judge these things, but it is difficult at times.
It's amazing how long I and my partner have being doing the course now (20
years like yourself) and it's still like doing it for the first time.
Carrie
2010-09-02 17:13:54 UTC
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Post by Darfash
Post by Carrie
What is he saying? And how does it relate to ACIM (which Raj says he is the
author of)
Some people seem to get a lot of of these occasional talks, that are called
"ACIM study groups".
I read this, and also listened to the audio of it, and it makes no sense to
me. Just like words going on and on and changing direction and not having
any real point. Throwing in a few words like "Awakening" and "the Gift"
here and there.
http://www.nwffacim.org/tgp/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29881&mid=143666#M143666
I guess it must be true, there is a teacher for all. And, people live
in their own version of reality, where something like this is wise and
wonderful teachings, from Jesus.
Have you listened to any Master Teacher yet, check him out.
I can't understand Master Teacher either....
I and others have the same problem . . . but I just put it down to my ego
rejecting the truth. I find it easier to listen or watch Paul (Raj) than the
Master Teacher but both contain the same truth. I have the same problem
sometimes when reading the text . . don't get upset by it.
And, the course does say words are ego... form
It's the content that teaches. Not saying those who get something from
"words" and supporting them, are wrong. If they get something that feels
good from it.
To each his own
Who is running Endeavor now that MT is no longer "in form"?
I've no idea who is running Endeavour now or what the Foundation is up to. I
try (hard) not to judge these things, but it is difficult at times.
It's amazing how long I and my partner have being doing the course now (20
years like yourself) and it's still like doing it for the first time.


I don't think observing something and asking about it, discussing it,
learning more about it is judging.
If it is, no one should be writing anything on discussion groups. Or even
talking to each other.
"judging" (in a negative way) is in the mind of the one seeing it that way.
I don't really care what is going on with Endeavor. You brought up Master
Teacher and I was trying to make conversation.

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