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Free course book for prisoners?
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Carrie
2010-09-17 17:48:03 UTC
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Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
Thanks
Carrie
2010-09-17 17:51:55 UTC
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I looked in google and found one that seems to be David Hoffmeister, and
includes a 150 page booklet "Introduction to ACIM" based on the writings of
Gary Renard!
Aside from this (I wouldn't want anyone getting an introduction to ACIM
based on what Gary writes) all I could find on the website was buttons to
use to DONATE


"Carrie" <***@charter.net> wrote in message news:yRNko.35159$***@newsfe13.iad...
Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
Thanks
HappyD
2010-09-17 18:24:49 UTC
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 Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
 Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.

I'm not even posting this.
Carrie
2010-09-17 18:58:02 UTC
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Post by Carrie
Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.

I'm not even posting this.


LOL
Actually, I found a lot of sites, but they all seemed to be looking for
donations (money)
I can also see it as prisoners (or anyone) doesn't need anything. I just
have to change MY MIND.
Pieter
2010-09-22 15:38:10 UTC
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Post by HappyD
 Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
 Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
expires
2010-09-22 19:29:19 UTC
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On Wed Sep 22 2010 17:38:10 GMT+0200
Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
are you a 'spiritual' ego, Pieter?
if so, how "unworthy" would it be
to then deny that you are such?
--expires
Pieter
2010-09-22 21:53:52 UTC
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Post by expires
On Wed Sep 22 2010 17:38:10 GMT+0200
Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
are you a 'spiritual' ego, Pieter?
if so, how "unworthy" would it be
to then deny that you are such?
--expires
Whatever you think of me or I of you,
or I think of myself or you of yourself:
I am as God created me;
you are as God created you.
And we are one in God.
expires
2010-09-23 07:44:22 UTC
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SUBJECT was: Re: Free course book for prisoners?
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
are you a 'spiritual' ego, Pieter?
if so, how "unworthy" would it be
to then deny that you are such?
--expires
Whatever you think of me or I of you,
I am as God created me;
you are as God created you.
And we are one in God.
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing? Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Can ideas/creations that have been
forgotten/discarded feel anything,
let alone suffer? Point is, quite
frankly, I don't believe there is
anything like a permanent 'Pieter',
which is why I don't believe that
'Jesus' wrote ACIM. Who then IMHO
do I consider to be ACIM's author,
ultimately? Today I tend most to
"the totality of all and nothing".
Does that then not make everyone AND
no-one the author of ACIM? If not,
wouldn't that contradict ACIM's
doctrine that all ideas of separa-
tion are ultimately illusionary?
--expires
miraclelurker
2010-09-27 10:39:30 UTC
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SUBJECT was: Re: Free course book for prisoners?
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
   Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books
to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
   Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
are you a 'spiritual' ego, Pieter?
if so, how "unworthy" would it be
to then deny that you are such?
--expires
Whatever you think of me or I of you,
I am as God created me;
you are as God created you.
And we are one in God.
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing? Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Can ideas/creations that have been
forgotten/discarded feel anything,
let alone suffer? Point is, quite
frankly, I don't believe there is
anything like a permanent 'Pieter',
which is why I don't believe that
'Jesus' wrote ACIM. Who then IMHO
do I consider to be ACIM's author,
ultimately? Today I tend most to
"the totality of all and nothing".
Does that then not make everyone AND
no-one the author of ACIM? If not,
wouldn't that contradict ACIM's
doctrine that all ideas of separa-
tion are ultimately illusionary?
--expires
Including all concepts of God.
expires
2010-09-28 06:43:28 UTC
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SUBJECT was: Re: a book for prisoners

miraclelurker wrote:
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Post by miraclelurker
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SUBJECT was: Re: Free course book for prisoners?
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Does anyone have the link to the place that
sends the free ACIM books to prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails
asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd
like to have a book sent to. Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
are you a 'spiritual' ego, Pieter?
if so, how "unworthy" would it be
to then deny that you are such?
--expires
Whatever you think of me or I of you,
I am as God created me;
you are as God created you.
And we are one in God.
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing? Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Can ideas/creations that have been
forgotten/discarded feel anything,
let alone suffer? Point is, quite
frankly, I don't believe there is
anything like a permanent 'Pieter',
which is why I don't believe that
'Jesus' wrote ACIM. Who then IMHO
do I consider to be ACIM's author,
ultimately? Today I tend most to
"the totality of all and nothing".
Does that then not make everyone AND
no-one the author of ACIM? If not,
wouldn't that contradict ACIM's
doctrine that all ideas of separa-
tion are ultimately illusionary?
--expires
Including all concepts of God.
---------------------------------------------------
Seems so to me, till now...
BTW, within the ACIM context
and from a human POV, God's
(insane) 'Son' is the God of
mankind and mankind's world.
So seen, a good human prayer
might be, so it seems to me:
Dear 'S.o.God', please
forgive me your 'sins'
as I forgive you mine.
--expires
Carrie
2010-09-28 15:23:11 UTC
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SUBJECT was: Re: a book for prisoners
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Post by miraclelurker
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SUBJECT was: Re: Free course book for prisoners?
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Does anyone have the link to the place that
sends the free ACIM books to prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails
asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd
like to have a book sent to. Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
are you a 'spiritual' ego, Pieter?
if so, how "unworthy" would it be
to then deny that you are such?
--expires
Whatever you think of me or I of you,
I am as God created me;
you are as God created you.
And we are one in God.
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing? Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Can ideas/creations that have been
forgotten/discarded feel anything,
let alone suffer? Point is, quite
frankly, I don't believe there is
anything like a permanent 'Pieter',
which is why I don't believe that
'Jesus' wrote ACIM. Who then IMHO
do I consider to be ACIM's author,
ultimately? Today I tend most to
"the totality of all and nothing".
Does that then not make everyone AND
no-one the author of ACIM? If not,
wouldn't that contradict ACIM's
doctrine that all ideas of separa-
tion are ultimately illusionary?
--expires
Including all concepts of God.
---------------------------------------------------
Seems so to me, till now...
BTW, within the ACIM context
and from a human POV, God's
(insane) 'Son' is the God of
mankind and mankind's world.
So seen, a good human prayer
     Dear 'S.o.God', please
     forgive me your 'sins'
     as I forgive you mine.
--expires- Hide quoted text -
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In a way, we are all "in prison" (or at times) in our own way.
I once saw a cartoon of a bird in a cage, holding the bars, and
looking
out, and on the other side of the cage there was a gap, where one of
the
bars was missing, big enough for him to easily get out of. He didn't
turn
around and look.
Pieter
2010-09-28 20:47:54 UTC
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SUBJECT was: Re: Free course book for prisoners?
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
Post by Carrie
Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM
books
to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for
this,
but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
are you a 'spiritual' ego, Pieter?
if so, how "unworthy" would it be
to then deny that you are such?
--expires
Whatever you think of me or I of you,
I am as God created me;
you are as God created you.
And we are one in God.
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing?
- All and nothing are mutually exclusive,
just as where light is, darkness cannot be.
Post by expires
Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Ideas of God are eternal;
forgetting them does not change that.
What is real can be remembered again.
Post by expires
Can ideas/creations that have been
forgotten/discarded feel anything,
let alone suffer? Point is, quite
frankly, I don't believe there is
anything like a permanent 'Pieter',
which is why I don't believe that
'Jesus' wrote ACIM. Who then IMHO
do I consider to be ACIM's author,
ultimately? Today I tend most to
"the totality of all and nothing".
Does that then not make everyone AND
no-one the author of ACIM? If not,
wouldn't that contradict ACIM's
doctrine that all ideas of separa-
tion are ultimately illusionary?
--expires
expires
2010-09-29 01:41:40 UTC
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Pieter wrote:
...
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing?
- All and nothing are mutually exclusive,
just as where light is, darkness cannot be.
Post by expires
Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Ideas of God are eternal;
forgetting them does not change that.
What is real can be remembered again.
...

Well, Pieter, you'll have to
resolve your fear of nothing
and darkness yourself before
you've gotten tired of being
addicted to the idea of some
kind of eternal-Pieter-being
--expires
Pieter
2010-10-01 10:44:00 UTC
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Post by expires
...
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing?
- All and nothing are mutually exclusive,
just as where light is, darkness cannot be.
Post by expires
Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Ideas of God are eternal;
forgetting them does not change that.
What is real can be remembered again.
...
Well, Pieter, you'll have to
resolve your fear of nothing
and darkness
Why do you lay "fear of nothing
and darkness" at my door?
What darkness?
Post by expires
yourself before
you've gotten tired of being
addicted to the idea of some
kind of eternal-Pieter-being
--expires
- Why do you think that I am
"addicted to the idea of some
kind of eternal-Pieter-being"?
Imo 'eternal being' makes sense;
'eternal-Pieter-being' does not.
expires
2010-10-02 03:48:24 UTC
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Post by Pieter
Post by expires
...
Post by Pieter
Post by expires
IMO "I am a creation" is ultimately
a extremely limiting idea. How about
identifying with the totality of all
and nothing?
- All and nothing are mutually exclusive,
just as where light is, darkness cannot be.
Post by expires
Are not all 'creations'
mere ideas that can be forgotten?
Ideas of God are eternal;
forgetting them does not change that.
What is real can be remembered again.
...
Well, Pieter, you'll have to
resolve your fear of nothing
and darkness yourself before
you've gotten tired of being
addicted to the idea of some
kind of eternal-Pieter-being
--expires
Why do you lay "fear of nothing
and darkness" at my door?
What darkness?
- Why do you think that I am
"addicted to the idea of some
kind of eternal-Pieter-being"?
Imo 'eternal being' makes sense;
'eternal-Pieter-being' does not.
Your questions answer your
questions perfectly, or if
not, what exactly are your
defensive words protecting?
--expires

Carrie
2010-09-28 03:02:00 UTC
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Post by Pieter
Post by HappyD
 Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
 Thanks
There are no prisoners, there is no course book. Its all an
illusion.
I'm not even posting this.
- ACIM does call this an "unworthy form of denial".
(Explanation: "it is not necessary to protect the mind by
denying the un-mindful. There is little doubt that the mind
can miscreate. If one denies this unfortunate aspect of
its power, one is also denying the power itself.")
(had this sitting in my outbox in Outlook Express for several days)

I'm thinking, in some cases (as Guided) it might be better to live,
and be
an example of what ACIM says, instead of a book.
The books have been out long enough so some of us should be able to
"live"
it. Teach it in that way.
mg weber-c
2010-09-25 14:02:02 UTC
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 Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
 Thanks
check out www.jcim.net , they have a link to Joe Wolfe´s initiative,
or google wolfe, carrie. success! namazté
Carrie
2010-09-28 03:00:26 UTC
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 Does anyone have the link to the place that sends the free ACIM books to
prisoners?
I think they used to post or send emails asking for donations for this, but
I know someone who is interested and I'd like to have a book sent to.
 Thanks
check outwww.jcim.net, they have a link to Joe Wolfe´s initiative,
or google wolfe, carrie. success!  namazté
Thanks. I asked Miracle Distribution Center (they advertise a link)
but the
person has to request it himself.
I think he is going to do this.
My first thought was to try and explain the course, and give quotes
etc (to
anyone who asks about it and is interested) then I thought, at this
point, I
shouldn't try and write too much about it, I should be living it, and
"teaching" it in that way.
Actually, a real insight. But, in a way, it's like trying to
remember and
hang onto a dream. Just like a glimmer of the idea. If I were
actually
LIVING what ACIM teaches, even if I did explain briefly what the
basics
about it are, I wouldn't need to do too much.
Thinking about when I first got the book and how "radical" it
seemed.
(it actually says "there is no world!") NOW it doesn't seem as
different.
Maybe overall, people are more able to understand it and accept it.
I still feel I have to explain about the "Christian" language,
because a
lot of people have been brought up with this in a negative way and
first
reaction to it is, they want nothing to do with it.
Again, this is where someone living it, as an example (and all
minds
being joined) would be a better way of teaching it.

(I've been trying to post on the newsgroup off and on for days and
they just sit in the outbox and tries to send and gives this error
message:
Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject 'Re: Free course
book for prisoners?', Account: 'nntp.charter.net', Server:
'nntp.charter.net', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 Posting
Failed. ', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error
Number: 0x800CCCA9)
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