Post by HappyMikePost by CarriePost by expires(btw: THERE IS NO 31st of SEPTEMBER)
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Dear Carrie, and whoever/all,
basically, fundamentally, you
ALWAYS ONLY meet yourself.
So, _all_ FUSS is a FARCE ;-))
--expires
:))
Hey there are people here again!
There's hope
There is no hope.
There must be.
You're here
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Yes, but I was here for only for an instant. Then I gave up and was
gone....
... Oh, wait. When I was here I posted this.
THE SCRIPT IS WRITTEN
Jeshua/Jesus thru Brent Haskell
Greetings to you this day. I am Jeshua. And I have come, as always,
to discuss with you A Course in Miracles. You have been struggling, as
it were, for some time, about some words, which I have placed in A
Course in Miracles. And those words are these; The script is
written. (See ACIM Workbook Lesson 158)
And what I have told you with those words is that for everything
that seems to happen here, it has already been done. The time when
each of you shall come to understand the truth of who you are is set.
It is in the script. It is just as if it has been placed at a certain
frame on the film that you play out, that you call your life. And only
when you arrive at that frame and that moment, that seeming moment in
your time, will you truly understand.
And I have said to you that time only seems to go in one direction.
Time only seems to go in one direction. And all of this can present
such a dilemma for you, can it not?
Here, in your earthly life, what can you do? I have told you that
always when you come to the point in time when you understand, when
you come to your moment of awakening, you will realise in that same
moment the truth that There was nothing I needed to do.
But your question for today goes even beyond that. For indeed, is
there anything that you can do at all? If you are impatient to know
the peace of God, can you, in your time, speed up the process? Can you
be diligent and make the moment come sooner in your time? Does the
time of your study, the time of your contemplation, the time of your
simply being silent, does any of that make any difference at all? Or
will you simply one day awaken and say, Aha, I see.?
Now I have told you, have I not, so many times, that this world
never happened. And I have told you that this world is but illusion.
It is not real. And do you know one of the aspects of reality itself
reality is imbued with creative power. That which is real is of God.
You are of God. Because you, the reality of what you are you are
real. But this world, ah tis not real.
And what does that include? That includes your bodies. They are not
real. That includes the aspects you see of space and time the skies
and the heavens the earth about you the flowers and the trees none
of it is real. Tis but a figment of imagination, if you will.
And this is part of what I have told you, but is so difficult for
you. The thoughts you think you think are not real. The thoughts of
which you are aware are not real thoughts. And that means this, as I
have told you the thoughts you think you think, the thoughts of the
brain, if you will, the thoughts of space and time, are not real. And
as such, hear me well. They have no creative power.
So can you, of your thinking, of your planning, of your struggling,
of your doing things here, change anything, do anything at all? And
the answer must be no. The answer must be no.
This is the fundamental struggle that you insofar as you believe
yourself to be your ego this is the fundamental struggle that you
must deal with. And I have spoken to you and called it the authority
problem. As ego, as a conscious thinking being, here, who seems to
have life and seems to have choice, and would seem to perhaps have
power associated with your choices, is there anything that you can do?
And the answer is no.
Consider for a moment what if that were not so? What if you, in
your conscious thinking, could in fact change your mind and see your
life or your world change? Then that would demand that your thinking,
the thoughts of this world, had creative power. Suppose that you
could, with your body, do acts, do things that could change your
world. That would mean that bodies had within them creative power. And
that would mean that the thoughts of consciousness, the body itself,
would be of God. That which has creative power must be God Itself,
just as you in your reality, have creative power and are God.
So how do you deal with this issue, if I tell you, as I truly am
telling you, that nothing you do in your life makes any difference at
all? And one of your great passions, one of your great concerns in
being loving and pursuing the spiritual path for most of you for
so many of you is that you say, I want to make a difference. I
want , when my life is over, to be able to stand tall and say, I made
a difference. I changed my world. And do you know what this is?
Truly that is but the voice of the ego crying out not to die.
Ask yourself this if this world is not real, if it is but illusion
if it has no effect of any kind in all of eternity then why would
it matter whether your life here makes a difference? That too is but
illusion. So if you would be a student of A Course in Miracles, if you
would be a teacher of A Course in Miracles, if you would be a writer
of books, the sharer of wisdom through lectures or speaking
engagements, or workshops does any of that matter? And the answer
truly is - it does not.
Such harsh words are they not? For have I not just told you that all
of your struggling, everything you would do to seek to accomplish good
in your life, matters not at all. DO you recall that I said in A
Course in Miracles, Your only goal is to accept the Atonement for
yourself.?
And do you recall the words I spoke in A Course in Miracles, that
experience cannot be given directly? The only thing you have to offer
is the vision of Christ the vision of the Holy Spirit.
And vision itself hear me well has no power to change. Vision is
but experience that you have within yourself when you in a moment
see this world differently, when you forgive this world. And that, as
I have told you, is your only function to forgive this world to
forgive yourself to forgive your brother to forgive me and to
forgive God Itself.
Have you heard these words at the core of your being? You forgive
through vision. You forgive not through action, not though doing, not
through trying, above all not through studying and struggling and
dialoguing, if you will.
So what does that mean? What it means is you must hear these words
I speak this day, and these words which you will find in A Course in
Miracles as you look for them it means that you must take those
words and experience them. For if you do not, or until you do, you
will not know the peace of God. Hear me well.
So if your life matters not ah, did I say that? Did I say your
life matters not? Or did I say that there is nothing you can do to
change anything? There is a difference. There truly is nothing you can
do to bring about sooner the moment of your awakening. And if you feel
you are awakened already and wish to give the gift to your brothers
and sisters, there is nothing you can do whatsoever to hasten the
moment of their awakening as well. The script is written. The time is
set.
Time but seems to flow in one direction. What does that mean? You
believe in cause and effect being separate. That ultimately is the
belief in your time. For you believe that an action, a thought, a
word, a deed, now, will result in a change. The word will speaks of
the future, do you hear? You believe that a word, an action, a
thought, now, can effect what you see as the future. And it is
absolutely not so.
I have told you that every single moment of your time is totally
independent of every other moment of your time. That is what it means
to say that cause and effect are not separate. In the absence of time,
the Son of God imagines whatever he will, and in that instant, it is
done. There cannot be delay. Delay is but illusion.
And so all of your struggling to become is but your desire to
worship time, and to hallow what you would call the future, the
result. And it is the grandest delusion of the ego to believe that
what you call the future is the result of the past. And if it is then,
you can further delude yourself into believing that what you did in
one moment affected the next And thus you believe that you have
creative power.
The nature of God, the fact that time does not exist, makes it
impossible that such could be the case. In this moment, you either
know the peace of God or you do not. And the next moment is the same,
and the next is the same and the next is the same and the next is the
same. And creative spirit, which sits at the core of your being always
knows the peace of God.
Did your Mind cease creating for a moment to make up a world of
illusion? Hear me well. To create is to be. And to cease to create
would be to cease to be. Mind never sleeps. It is creating every
moment. That I have told you. And what is it that Mind creates
nothing but love. For that is all there is.
This world, I tell you and this fact lies at the core of your
forgiveness this world, every aspect of it, is love being expressed.
And in your forgiveness when you awaken in your moment of
awakening, you will know that to be true. And that shall be the
forgiveness that you seek. And in your forgiveness, you shall find the
peace of God.
Can you, from within the framework of the ego, from within
consciousness, can you rationalise, can you discuss and discover, can
you debate and find, can you figure out how it is that this world is
nothing but love? Hear me well. Absolutely not. It is the framework of
this world which imprisons you. It is that framework which you use to
form that which you call ego, that which you believe yourself to be,
but which you are not. From within the domain of the ego, you can not
discover, you can not find vision, the vision of the Holy Spirit, the
vision of your One Self, the vision of Christ, the vision of God.
They are all the same.
How then can you find the peace of God? Do you remember that I have
told you you have but one choice in this world to which voice
shall I listen? One choice to which voice shall you choose to
listen? I have told you that there is nothing you can do to hasten the
moment of your or your brothers awakening. Your goal is to forgive.
Your only goal is to accept the Atonement for yourself, which is
exactly the same thing.
There truly is nothing you can do. For if it were not so, this world
would be imbued with creative power, and would be real. And that which
you pretend to see would be God Itself. And the universe would be a
place of fear and horror. And it is not so. Hear me well.
How do you choose to listen to the Voice for God? How do you choose
to hear the Holy Spirit? For when you do make that choice, then what
will fill your awareness is the vision of Christ. For truly then, your
One Self, the Holy Spirit, I, God Itself, were He to choose to look
upon this world, would see with vision, and would see nothing but
love.
How do you choose to do that? There is but one way. For the choice
you have of which voice you shall listen is not really a choice at
all. So even in the sense of choosing which voice you shall hear,
there is still nothing you can do. Hear me well. For this I have told
you before.
The Holy Spirit, the Voice of God, the bringer of the vision of
Christ, speaks with the quietest of whispers you could ever imagine.
The truth is this, my brothers you hear the Voice of God in silence.
The only choice you have is the choice to be still, to cease the
workings of your conscious mind. For when you do not think, you are
free of the busyness of the world. You are no longer burning with a
passion to dialogue or debate, or study or think or to use your
thoughts to become. When you are free of that, then in your silence
there comes a whisper, the Voice of the Holy Spirit.
And as you sit in your silence for more than a moment, then there
will come exactly this, a vision. And arising out of your silence, you
will be given a new world. But nothing will have changed at all. You
will be given a new world because, as you look upon your world and
experience this world here beyond the domain of the ego you will
come face to face with the vision of Christ. And everything you see
will be the Love of God. And everything you experience will be the
Love of God.
And what will you do in your life? You will celebrate. For the
fullness of the awareness of that Love will make it impossible for you
not to do so. Hear me well this day. This is the measure of your
forgiveness. As you look upon your world, do you see nothing but love?
As you look upon your world do you see nothing but love in action? As
you look upon your world, are you filled with joy and wonder at it
all? And as you look upon your world are you filled with a total peace
that desires to change nothing? For why would anyone desire to change
the perfect Love of God? Do you see?
Then what do you do in your life, if all your doing matters not? And
this I have told you as well. How do you know if you are happy? Do you
contemplate and debate, or do you simply know at the core of your
being? How do you know if you are filled with love? Do you debate the
meaning of love? Do you define love and write books about love or do
you simply experience that which it is? And experience, as I have told
you, lies beyond thought lies beyond your thinking mind lies
beyond the domain of the ego.
So what can you do then? You simply experience your life. If you
would do that, you do not plan one moment in the future, but simply
experience your life. And do you remember those words? I spoke them
even two thousand years ago, and yet again and again in so many times
and places. And yet again in A Course in Miracles. If you would simply
experience your life, what will you do? And the answer is so extremely
simple that you perhaps have never heard it. If you would simply
experience your life, you will follow the path of your own joy.
Do you think I was joking when I said, Gods will for you is
perfect happiness? and when I gave you the affirmation Gods peace
and joy are mine? Not at all. What if your joy does not lead you to
study A Course in Miracles? What would you do? Follow the path of your
own joy. What if your joy does not lead you to writing books and going
to workshops or seminars or dialoguing with your brethren about the
nature of truth? What should you do? You should follow the pathway of
your own joy. I promise you, if you are not following the pathway of
your own joy, you are nowhere near, at all, the discovery of the peace
of God.
Can you speed up your time? No, indeed. Can you be joyful in your
life? Yes, you can. What happens if you truly become silent and open
your being, and open your heart if you will to the presence of the
Holy Spirit to my presence to the Voice for God? What happens if
you do that? Time itself collapses. I have told you that as well.
Miracles collapse time. Those are not new words to you, are they?
The only activities that can possibly bring you to the point of time
collapsing are those that bring you joy.
And what is the measure of your joy? I have told you this also many
times. If you are experiencing joy, then ask yourself Can anything
of this world threaten my joy? And if the answer is yes, then it
is not the joy of God. It is still the ego clamouring and crying out
to be heard, and trying to convince someone, somewhere, that it exists
which of course it does not.
In the moment of your silence, in the moment of your joy, in the
moment of the collapse of time then all time becomes the same
instant. Do you hear? And in that instant in that instant of the
forever of your time as it collapses into a single moment, the time
of your awakening is there. And I have, have I not, called that moment
the Holy Instant the moment of the miracle. And that is exactly what
it is the moment of the miracle the moment in which time
collapses.
But remember, you cannot make it happen. You cannot figure it out.
You cannot dialogue and discover what it is. You can never, ever,
ever, give it as an experience to someone else. The only thing you can
do is enter into your own silence, wherein you listen and are still,
and wherein you hear the Voice of God, and wherein you gain the vision
of Christ, and wherein you see anew world not a world that has been
changed, but the same world seen anew.
And in that moment you will no longer see a world of illusion.
Illusion will pass away, including the illusion of time. And in the
moment of forever, you shall awaken. And in your awakening, you will
have within you the vision of Christ.
Can you force it upon your brothers? No, indeed. But as you hold
that vision, then it is present for anyone and everyone throughout
all of space and time, past, present and future to experience and to
celebrate. And in your own moment of experiencing that vision, truly
as I have told you, your silence and the joy to be found therein, make
you, without effort, the saviour of the world. And your life, moment
upon moment, shall become blessed in ways beyond what you can
comprehend even though the moments of your space and time have
changed not one iota.
My blessings upon you all. That is all.
END
What do you think?
Love those books.
That make ACIM come alive and I "feel" it when I read them.
Well, I only have one. I once started to copy it all, so I'd have an online
file. Not sure if there are any available. I think the adio is available (to
buy) read by Kellie Love who did the first audio set of ACIM. I should look
for it.
One place, Jeshua says we're not to learn the course, so we can then tell
it to others, like "teaching" them something with the words.
It's a personal experience and we can teach it through example. I believe
this. It's really the only way to teach anyone anything.
Journey Beyond Words
by Brent Haskell, PhD.D.O. 1994
INTRODUCTION
Greetings. I am Jeshua. I have come to discuss with you
A Course in Miracles.
Even as you begin,
Be aware that it is possible
For you to be misled by its name
In your world,
When you hear the word "course," you think of learning.
But you are not here to learn.
You are here to experience.
And you will find, with great joy,
That there is a dramatic difference between the two.
Learning is nothing more
Than a process undertaken by your brain.
But experience goes beyond the "learning" of your brain.
It goes beyond your thinking, beyond your analyzing,
To the very core of your being,
Wherein lies the true nature of what you are,
Which is the Son of God.
Hear me well.
If you undertake this Course
As an exercise in academic learning,
As the study of ideas to be mastered,
You will fail.
And in your failing, you will miss this Course,
And its miracles,
Entirely.
Your entry into this Course is your choice
To experience,
To live,
And to become.
,
The purpose of this Course is absolute peace.
Within peace there is the total absence of conflict.
Within peace there is never doubt, only total certainty.
Within peace there is never questioning.
Because there is never questioning, there is never fear.
And because there is never fear,
There is only room for love.
Love is freedom. Nothing more.
To the extent that you allow freedom to your brother,
You shall receive, in the exact same measure, freedom,
Which is love.
If you, in your thinking, would restrict your brother,
Thus to deny him freedom, thus to deny him love,
Then you must deny yourself that selfsame freedom and love.
In the absence of your freedom,
In the absence of love,
You will experience conflict, .
And you will not be at peace.
Again, I tell you,
This Course is nothing more than a pathway
Which shall lead you to the experience of total peace.
Such peace is not something you can think about,
Nor something you can debate.
Indeed, if you ever find yourself wondering
Whether you are at peace,
I promise you,
You are not.
As you approach the daily lessons,
The first two-thirds, as I have told you,
Are for the purpose of breaking down, if you will,
The ghosts you bring with you.
These ghosts, beloved masters of your lives,
Are the thinking, the concepts, the thoughts,
The patterns of behavior,
Generated from within your mind,
Which imprison you in this world of illusion,
And keep you from the peace of which I speak.
So bear in mind,
We are not trying to take anything away from you,
Rather to help you dissolve barriers,
Barriers to the state of peace.
As we help you to break down these walls,
You will realize, first in thoughts,
But then, and this is the essence,
You shall EXPERIENCE the truth we bring.
You will experience it with knowing and certainty
At the deepest level of your being, :
\Far beyond the thoughts themselves.
In the knowing, in the certainty, in the experiencing,
barriers will truly dissolve. ,
And you shall be free.
You are here to learn to live,
Not to learn to think.
Indeed, you will discover with great rejoicing
That your thinking, in great measure,
Is what keeps you from being truly alive.
Ponder for a moment your idea of anything.
That idea, that thought, is but an interpretation.
It is a choice you make,
A choice which defines for you
That which you seem to be experiencing.
I have come to tell you, and hear this well,
That what you perceive, what you interpret,
Which is based upon your thoughts,
Has nothing whatsoever to do with reality.
This is a description of the major barrier
Which separates you from your peace.
In order for you to have a thought about something,
It is absolutely essential
That the thought be preceded by an experience.
Without the experience itself, the thought could not be born.
So it is that your thoughts are always interpretations,
Based not upon this moment,
But upon experiences you have had in what you call the past.
Love is freedom.
Recall those words.
Say them over and over and over again,
Until the day comes
When you shall experience them as your reality.
Every thought, every opinion,
Every interpretation which enters your mind
Is based upon what you perceive as the past.
Therefore, when you perceive anything,
What you are doing is saying,
"I am choosing to demand, insofar as I am able,
That this entity, this aspect of Creation,
Which by its nature exists in a state of freedom
I am choosing to demand that this being
NOT BE FREE."
For when you, in your thinking,
Choose to interpret, based upon the past,
What another being IS,
And then believe that interpretation to be reality,
You have made yourself the enemy of that being's freedom.
For you are saying,
"I choose to demand, for my purposes,
That you be as you WERE,
Indeed, not even as you were, but as I PERCEIVED you were.
And now, this moment, you do not exist.
For you are, I tell you, what you WERE."
Do you see that this is the absence of love,
And the absence of freedom?
And if you wanted to be vicious,
You could even call it hatred.
Hear me well.
When you form an opinion of any aspect of Creation,
INCLUDING YOURSELF,
It is but your wish to rob the universe, and yourself,
Of freedom, and therefore, of love.
Thus A Course in Miracles says, "I see only the past." (L 7)
And, "I am never upset for the reason I think." (L 5)
Deep within you there is total peace.
There is the absence of conflict.
There is a wellspring of complete freedom, which is love,
And which must be synonymous with vibrant joy.
That is your right, that is your inheritance,
As the Son of God.
And nothing can take it away from you.
In your thinking,
You can choose to imagine that you do not have it.
Which is exactly what you have done.
Thus the purpose of all the initial lessons
Is to help you to experience the realization
That the absence of peace,
The presence of conflict,
The absence of love,
The absence of freedom,
All stem only from your imagination,
And ultimately, from your thinking,
Which must be of the past,
And which is your desire to deny freedom
To the entire universe, and to yourself.
You have come into this world, onto this earth,
To imagine what it would be like to live in a state of separation.
But deep within you is the knowing
That you are not separate from any aspect of Creation,
And can never be.
So at the deepest level of your truth,
You realize that your goal must be to overcome
That which you have come here to experience.
And that you SHALL do.
The doing shall require of you
That you be willing to challenge every value,
Every thought, every notion which you hold.
Do not fear. Rather rejoice.
For your willingness shall be the doorway
That opens unto love, and joy, and freedom.
I tell you, as you open your being to this Course in Miracles,
The barriers will dissolve,
And the world will take on new meaning.
Your life will blossom, and grow,
And expand into an eternity of immense joy,
Into a world of light,
And into an unfathomable beauty of which I cannot speak.
For truly, your minds cannot comprehend
The measure of that which is your right,
And your inheritance,
As the Son of God.
Blessings upon you all. That is all.