Cross posting

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting that started here, but I'm
thinking, overall, it's really good.
Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in various ways)
I should figure out who is on what group, so if it stops I can look t the
group directly. And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the
"other" groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or more
interesting LOL

LOL!

John Radgosky

2011-02-20 02:57:24 UTC

I don't know what was behind the cross posting that started here, but I'm
thinking, overall, it's really good.

That's ridiculous.

If I do a google search on volcanos I don't expect to find links to
topics on shoes

I don't come here to gain any understanding of the cross posted
topics. I can get that info elsewhere

But when the purpose or subject matter of the group is organized
around the subject matter of ACIM then no, stupid, all the cross
posting is an enorumous distraction, and a total waste of time, and
it's a really veryt bad idea.

So as far as your "thinking" goes, it's ludicrous. Except to
you. .

Carrie

2011-02-20 03:18:02 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting that started here,
but I'm thinking, overall, it's really good.

That's ridiculous.
If I do a google search on volcanos I don't expect to find links to
topics on shoes
I don't come here to gain any understanding of the cross posted
topics. I can get that info elsewhere
But when the purpose or subject matter of the group is organized
around the subject matter of ACIM then no, stupid, all the cross
posting is an enorumous distraction, and a total waste of time, and
it's a really veryt bad idea.
So as far as your "thinking" goes, it's ludicrous. Except to
you. .

Maybe so, but to me, the course talks a lot about us all being One (and
One with God) and finding ways for joining.. and peace.
It's kind of obvious what you come here for, but that's yout choice and
lessons.

John Radgosky

2011-02-20 17:10:10 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting that started here,
but I'm thinking, overall, it's really good.

That's ridiculous.
If I do a google search on volcanos I don't expect to find links to
topics on shoes
I don't come here to gain any understanding of the cross posted
topics. I can get that info elsewhere
But when the purpose or subject matter of the group is organized
around the subject matter of ACIM then no, stupid, all the cross
posting is an enorumous distraction, and a total waste of time, and
it's a really veryt bad idea.
So as far as your "thinking" goes, it's ludicrous. Except to
you. .

so why don't you just go to a group where the subject is matter is
nothing in particular so you can talk your hair out to your heart's
content and join and communicate till the day you die ? Your
statements on this subject are just stupid. Nothing more to say about
that.

Carrie

2011-02-20 21:07:54 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting that started here,
but I'm thinking, overall, it's really good.

That's ridiculous.
If I do a google search on volcanos I don't expect to find links to
topics on shoes
I don't come here to gain any understanding of the cross posted
topics. I can get that info elsewhere
But when the purpose or subject matter of the group is organized
around the subject matter of ACIM then no, stupid, all the cross
posting is an enorumous distraction, and a total waste of time, and
it's a really veryt bad idea.
So as far as your "thinking" goes, it's ludicrous. Except to
you. .

Maybe so, but to me, the course talks a lot about us all being One
(and One with God) and finding ways for joining.. and peace.
It's kind of obvious what you come here for, but that's yout choice
and lessons.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

You don't like me very much, do you?
Isn't that the REAL point here?

John Radgosky

2011-02-22 01:20:53 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting that started here,
but I'm thinking, overall, it's really good.

That's ridiculous.
If I do a google search on volcanos I don't expect to find links to
topics on shoes
I don't come here to gain any understanding of the cross posted
topics. I can get that info elsewhere
But when the purpose or subject matter of the group is organized
around the subject matter of ACIM then no, stupid, all the cross
posting is an enorumous distraction, and a total waste of time, and
it's a really veryt bad idea.
So as far as your "thinking" goes, it's ludicrous. Except to
you. .

Maybe so, but to me, the course talks a lot about us all being One
(and One with God) and finding ways for joining.. and peace.
It's kind of obvious what you come here for, but that's yout choice
and lessons.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

You don't like me very much, do you?
Isn't that the REAL point here?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

It's not a matter of like. I neither like nor dislike you. I don't
know you. I comment on what you write, and your actions. I don't
comment on you. If you never existed i would never know, and my life
would be sompletely unaffected.

As it is, I just think you don't operate with a full deck of cards
upstairs when it comes to how you comment on this board. That's got
nothing to do with me liking or not liking you.

But I doubt you will ever understand any of that.

And besides, what does any of that liking business matter ?

It's more a matter of tolerating your stubborn patterns. And I have
little patience with that, so that is something I can easily and
readily admit. I hate having to repeat what has been repeated
numerous times with zero impact or effect. And I have zero tolerance
for anyone who completely misunderstands what is being said, even when
it is said precisely, and in 2nd grade languare.

So ... sue me.

JR

Carrie

2011-02-22 16:08:09 UTC

Post by John Radgosky
But when the purpose or subject matter of the group is organized

around the subject matter of ACIM then no, stupid, all the cross
posting is an enorumous distraction, and a total waste of time, and
it's a really veryt bad idea.

Post by John Radgosky
so why don't you just go to a group where the subject is matter is

nothing in particular so you can talk your hair out to your heart's
content and join and communicate till the day you die ? Your
statements on this subject are just stupid. Nothing more to say about
that.

Post by John Radgosky
As it is, I just think you don't operate with a full deck of cards

upstairs when it comes to how you comment on this board. That's got
nothing to do with me liking or not liking you.

Post by John Radgosky
It's more a matter of tolerating your stubborn patterns. And I have

little patience with that, so that is something I can easily and
readily admit. I hate having to repeat what has been repeated
numerous times with zero impact or effect. And I have zero tolerance
for anyone who completely misunderstands what is being said, even when
it is said precisely, and in 2nd grade languare.

Post by John Radgosky
This is a prime example where you show that you cannot read, and how

easily you totally miss the point and turn it into something about
you.

Let me explain it to you in 2nd grade language.

The man did not say you are simple minded.

the man said one approach is simple minded.

You misread that to mean, the man was saying you are simple minded.

you totally misread then misinterpreted what was actually said, then
went public with it and turned it into something it was not.

Did you ever make it through the 3rd grade ? Because this is not a
first for you. It is a pattern. A life pattern as it appears in this
group. you spend so much time writing when you might be better
served by doubling up on the time you spend reading, then add in a
little effort at understanding, then on top of that cutting back at
least 75% on the typing. But most of all make a big effort to
understand what is actually being said.

Good luck with that. Because I bet it won't be easy for you. But do
try.

Now let's all go back to the game of confusing the hell out of each
other .. carry on ...

Post by John Radgosky
One has to sift through the haystack to find that occasional pearl of

wisdom. And even if I mix metaphors, occasionally the search is worth
it but for the most part is a wasted endeavor.

It's like being in a virtual nut house.

Just sayin' ....with like an amused anticipation of whose turn is it
today to dribble down their shirt ?
------------------------------------
So, this is how you see me, and the newsgroup.
I can't change anyone else, in a direct way, and the course says we can't do
that anyway. Only change our mind about them.

I put some of your latest feedback together in this, and I appreciate you
letting me know this, but now would like to know if you have any suggestions
about what I should/could DO about it?

It's like telling someone "stop being stupid" Now, you have already seen
them as stupid and decided this, could a stupid person then be "smart"? And
even if they could be and were, would you (the person saying this) see it
that way?

The only thing I keep coming up with, with you and your lectures pointing
out my shortcomings, mental capabilities, and flaws is "if that's how you
see it [me] there's nothing I can do to make it different."

Just thinking maybe there is something you could add, instead of all the
negative stuff, YOU think I could do, to be different? Someone you might
then see in a better way?

You seem to put a lot of time, energy and caring into helping me change
into a better person, or what you think that might be. I still have old
emails from 2002 you sent me, maybe thinking you could get through to me
better in a personal and not "on the boards" way.

I seem to frustrate you, or annoy you in some way. But, what would the
course say about this? That it's "never anyone else" and if *I* an annoyed
(or anything) it is in MY MIND and that's the only place it can ever change?

To me, I am just me. If I'm "not playing with a full deck" or can't
read or don't have over a thrid grade education (because you don't
understand, comprehend what *I* write) AS YOU SEE ME, so what? The course
also says something about "as I see [my brother] I will see myself".

You are so interested in keeping this a course-themed group (though to
me, everything is "the course", like where does it stop and something else
start?) what is stopping you from being an example of the course, and
living it (and writing about it in a positive way) yourself?

Unless you have anything helpful and positive (that I could use to
change myself so you might see me in a better way, like not be so mentally
defficient, stupid, and uneducated) I don't know what else there is to write
about. If you have a problem with me (and can't tell me how *I* am
responsible for this and might make it better for you) it's really your
problem...

Sidney Lambe

2011-02-20 05:30:58 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really good.
Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in various
ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if it stops
I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or more
interesting LOL

If the groups are in the Newsgroups header and they exist, they
are receiving your posts, unless posting to them is banned by
your NSP. In that case, the post would be rejected completely
and you'd receive an error message. It wouldn't show up on
any groups.

alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.

Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive
me away and drove themselves away.

--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

Carrie

2011-02-20 20:47:38 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when they are) they
would kind of pop up in a random way on the other group.

Post by Sidney Lambe
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive
me away and drove themselves away.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to "atack"
someone on a group, because of what they write. If they don't agree, why not
just ignore it. Some seem to have this obcessive need to be right, and make
others wrong- or agree with THEM. Like they aren't very sure themselves.
Only someone who is defensive feels need to attack.

HappyD

2011-02-20 20:55:44 UTC

I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really good.
Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in various
ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if it stops
I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or more
interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when they are) they
would kind of pop up in a random way on the other group.

Happy:D

You know why.

I use to think I found the course because i was a little more advanced
that some and was ready for it. Then I realized that it came into my
life because I really really needed it.

LOL

Carrie

2011-02-20 22:54:36 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when they are)
they would kind of pop up in a random way on the other group.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to "atack"
someone on a group, because of what they write. If they don't agree,
why not just ignore it. Some seem to have this obcessive need to be
right, and make others wrong- or agree with THEM. Like they aren't
very sure themselves. Only someone who is defensive feels need to
attack.

Happy:D
You know why.
I use to think I found the course because i was a little more advanced
that some and was ready for it. Then I realized that it came into my
life because I really really needed it.
LOL

Yes. And I had the book(s) for around 10 years and used to think "I want a
way to use this! Or, find out if I can live it, what I still need to know,
etc"
And I found the internet.

nogogo

2011-02-21 03:51:17 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when they are)
they would kind of pop up in a random way on the other group.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to "atack"
someone on a group, because of what they write. If they don't agree,
why not just ignore it. Some seem to have this obcessive need to be
right, and make others wrong- or agree with THEM. Like they aren't
very sure themselves. Only someone who is defensive feels need to
attack.

Happy:D
You know why.
I use to think I found the course because i was a little more advanced
that some and was ready for it. Then I realized that it came into my
life because I really really needed it.
LOL

Yes. And I had the book(s) for around 10 years and used to think "I want a
way to use this! Or, find out if I can live it, what I still need to know,
etc"
And I found the internet.

so now you'll never know! (:

Carrie

2011-02-21 13:26:22 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when they are)
they would kind of pop up in a random way on the other group.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to "atack"
someone on a group, because of what they write. If they don't
agree, why not just ignore it. Some seem to have this obcessive
need to be right, and make others wrong- or agree with THEM. Like
they aren't very sure themselves. Only someone who is defensive
feels need to attack.

Happy:D
You know why.
I use to think I found the course because i was a little more
advanced that some and was ready for it. Then I realized that it
came into my life because I really really needed it.
LOL

Yes. And I had the book(s) for around 10 years and used to think "I
want a way to use this! Or, find out if I can live it, what I still
need to know, etc"
And I found the internet.

No, I think the other way. The internet, and groups on it, is the next
step in learning. Maybe for some. It's a fast, sometimes intense way of
connection with others all around the world (illusion as it may be). I also
think (but don't often remember) people who come to the ACIM groups are
looking to see proof of love, forgiveness, kindness, "the Face of Christ"
etc. Maybe they don't realize this on a conscious level. But, they are
looking for love and acceptance and feel they will find it with ACIM groups.
Even though they don't seem to be looking for love, but looking for trouble.
Testing? And, overall, giving those who say they believe in ACIM a chance to
remember what it says and put it into use. See the call for love, not what
seems to be anger, attack and wanting to fight. So, what looks like "the
newsgroup from hell" (as some put it) is really our greatest Teacher. For
those who want it, and open to it.
Where it is God is not?

nogogo

2011-02-21 03:53:04 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when they are) they
would kind of pop up in a random way on the other group.

Happy:D
You know why.
I use to think I found the course because i was a little more advanced
that some and was ready for it. Then I realized that it came into my
life because I really really needed it.
LOL

me too (:

Carrie

2011-02-21 13:27:42 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when they
are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the other group.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If they
don't agree, why not just ignore it. Some seem to have this
obcessive need to be right, and make others wrong- or agree with
THEM. Like they aren't very sure themselves. Only someone who
is defensive feels need to attack.

Happy:D
You know why.
I use to think I found the course because i was a little more
advanced that some and was ready for it. Then I realized that it
came into my life because I really really needed it.
LOL

Probably everyone. And we were open to it...

Sidney Lambe

2011-02-20 21:00:16 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if
it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or
more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?

You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein.
Or checking them out on googlgroups.com.

alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive me
away and drove themselves away.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If they
don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.

They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

Post by Carrie
Some seem to have this obcessive need to be right, and make
others wrong- or agree with THEM. Like they aren't very sure
themselves. Only someone who is defensive feels need to attack.

So true.

P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

HappyD

2011-02-20 21:06:43 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.

Happy:D

Sorry Sidney, its just not true, and when you finally get laid you'll
realize it.

HappyD

2011-02-20 21:31:00 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.

Happy:D
Sorry Sidney, its just not true, and when you finally get laid you'll
realize it.

Oh, which will be never. LOL

Carrie

2011-02-20 23:02:56 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if
it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or
more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?

To not send it to all the groups listed.
LIke this one just says talk religion course-miracles on the top.

Post by Sidney Lambe
You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein.
Or checking them out on googlgroups.com.

I have suscribed to some of them. Some I already had, and didn't do
much with. I know some here feel I have no "life" because I'm always online
(actually I come on and off between other things and type fast (LOL) but I
really am busy most of the time.
I think I'd rather be busy than bored.

Post by Sidney Lambe
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.

I remember finding and looking at alt.religion,wicca one time and
being disappointed.
Microsoft used to have ng and their own server, and good groups (to
learn on) like Publisher, Word, Windows, etc. People would ask questions and
get answers there. But they phased them out. Said there are other help
groups around instead.

Post by Sidney Lambe
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive me
away and drove themselves away.

That's what usually happens. They can't stand the fact they can't
control someone else. With me they used to say I lied (when if I had lied
and played games they'd probably have liked me better (LOL) If they can't
drive you away they try and discredit. Maybe if they can make a person who
is speaking up about what they don't want said into a liar, no one will
believe them and listen to what they say?
Though this really isn't a peaceful way to be, and most people don't
thank someone who says what they believe is "true". Even if they accept the
fact how others believe it is okay, too.

Post by Carrie
In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If they
don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.

Maybe they attack you because you say mean stuff to them and call
them names. But, that's still no reason to. They could just skip by and not
read what you write. I've noticed that you sometimes do post interesting
things, and I'm always looking for something interesting to talk about.

Post by Sidney Lambe
They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

So true.
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I've been told I ask questions and it's really attacking them, but I
hide it by making out it's a question. Lots of psychic people who seem to
know me and what I'm really like and where I'm coming from. Better than I do
myself LOL

Sidney Lambe

2011-02-20 23:18:33 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so
if it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the
"other" groups (each time) which makes it either more
confusing or more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?

To not send it to all the groups listed LIke this one just
says talk religion course-miracles on the top.

But why would they do that?

Post by Sidney Lambe
You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein. Or
checking them out on googlgroups.com.

I have suscribed to some of them. Some I already had, and
didn't do much with. I know some here feel I have no "life"
because I'm always online (actually I come on and off between
other things and type fast (LOL) but I really am busy most of
the time. I think I'd rather be busy than bored.

Your ACIM 'friends' will take any excuse to criticize you in
order to break you and make you dependent on them.

They want to be gurus.

They are creepy people. That's why I don't even read their
posts anymore, for the most part.

Post by Sidney Lambe
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.

I remember finding and looking at alt.religion,wicca
one time and being disappointed.

It used to be dominated by a vicious creep named 'ren'.

Microsoft used to have ng and their own server, and good groups
(to learn on) like Publisher, Word, Windows, etc. People would
ask questions and get answers there. But they phased them out.
Said there are other help groups around instead.

Post by Sidney Lambe
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive me
away and drove themselves away.

Yep. That's why.

(Wow! A question with a question mark at the end! :-)

Though this really isn't a peaceful way to be, and most people
don't thank someone who says what they believe is "true". Even
if they accept the fact how others believe it is okay, too.

Post by Carrie
In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If
they don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.

Maybe they attack you because you say mean stuff to
them and call them names.

When I encounter a dog turd, I say "That stinks". When I
encounter ideological thugs, I also describe them as accurately
as possible.

They smell worse than dog turds.

But, that's still no reason to. They could just skip by and
not read what you write. I've noticed that you sometimes do
post interesting things, and I'm always looking for something
interesting to talk about.

And they hate you for daring to do anything but criticize me.
They are not nice people.

Post by Sidney Lambe
They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

So true.
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I've been told I ask questions and it's really attacking
them, but I hide it by making out it's a question. Lots of
psychic people who seem to know me and what I'm really like
and where I'm coming from. Better than I do myself LOL

I am only referring to your habit of posting questions that
lack question marks at the end. It's confusing.

--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

Carrie

2011-02-21 01:46:36 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so
if it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the
"other" groups (each time) which makes it either more
confusing or more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?

To not send it to all the groups listed LIke this one just
says talk religion course-miracles on the top.

But why would they do that?

Post by Sidney Lambe
You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein. Or
checking them out on googlgroups.com.

I have suscribed to some of them. Some I already had, and
didn't do much with. I know some here feel I have no "life"
because I'm always online (actually I come on and off between
other things and type fast (LOL) but I really am busy most of
the time. I think I'd rather be busy than bored.

Your ACIM 'friends' will take any excuse to criticize you in
order to break you and make you dependent on them.
They want to be gurus.
They are creepy people. That's why I don't even read their
posts anymore, for the most part.

Post by Sidney Lambe
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.

I remember finding and looking at alt.religion,wicca
one time and being disappointed.

It used to be dominated by a vicious creep named 'ren'.

Post by Sidney Lambe
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive me
away and drove themselves away.

Yep. That's why.
(Wow! A question with a question mark at the end! :-)

Though this really isn't a peaceful way to be, and most people
don't thank someone who says what they believe is "true". Even
if they accept the fact how others believe it is okay, too.

Post by Carrie
In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If
they don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.

Maybe they attack you because you say mean stuff to
them and call them names.

When I encounter a dog turd, I say "That stinks". When I
encounter ideological thugs, I also describe them as accurately
as possible.
They smell worse than dog turds.

And they hate you for daring to do anything but criticize me.
They are not nice people.

Post by Sidney Lambe
They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

So true.
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I've been told I ask questions and it's really attacking
them, but I hide it by making out it's a question. Lots of
psychic people who seem to know me and what I'm really like
and where I'm coming from. Better than I do myself LOL

I am only referring to your habit of posting questions that
lack question marks at the end. It's confusing.

Maybe they're not questions
Maybe they're not questions?
Take your pick LOL
Musing... speculation

Sidney Lambe

2011-02-21 02:05:28 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

[delete]

Post by Sidney Lambe
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I've been told I ask questions and it's really attacking
them, but I hide it by making out it's a question. Lots of
psychic people who seem to know me and what I'm really like
and where I'm coming from. Better than I do myself LOL

I am only referring to your habit of posting questions that
lack question marks at the end. It's confusing.

Maybe they're not questions
Maybe they're not questions?
Take your pick LOL
Musing... speculation

If you don't want your articles to be comprehensible, this
is your choice.

--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

Carrie

2011-02-21 03:30:17 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

[delete]

Post by Sidney Lambe
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I've been told I ask questions and it's really attacking
them, but I hide it by making out it's a question. Lots of
psychic people who seem to know me and what I'm really like
and where I'm coming from. Better than I do myself LOL

I am only referring to your habit of posting questions that
lack question marks at the end. It's confusing.

Maybe they're not questions
Maybe they're not questions?
Take your pick LOL
Musing... speculation

If you don't want your articles to be comprehensible, this
is your choice.

I think a lot of what I write (and ask, even indirectly) is sort of
thinking "out loud".
And, no matter how clear I try to make it, even though it might not
always be clear to me, some are going to see it, take it, make it into
whatever they want. I've had people like that on here (from ACIM and now
otherwise) I can't "make" someone else understand what I mean, and not sure
I sure try very hard to. People are gonna be people and come to their own
conclusions anyway.

Sidney Lambe

2011-02-21 04:09:59 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

[delete]

Post by Sidney Lambe
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I've been told I ask questions and it's really
attacking them, but I hide it by making out it's a
question. Lots of psychic people who seem to know me and
what I'm really like and where I'm coming from. Better than
I do myself LOL

I am only referring to your habit of posting questions that
lack question marks at the end. It's confusing.

Maybe they're not questions Maybe they're not questions?
Take your pick LOL Musing... speculation

If you don't want your articles to be comprehensible, this is
your choice.

I think a lot of what I write (and ask, even indirectly) is
sort of thinking "out loud". And, no matter how clear I try to
make it, even though it might not always be clear to me, some
are going to see it, take it, make it into whatever they want.
I've had people like that on here (from ACIM and now otherwise)
I can't "make" someone else understand what I mean, and not
sure I sure try very hard to. People are gonna be people and
come to their own conclusions anyway.

If you want to be understood, then end questions with a question
mark.

If you don't care, then you get to deal with the backlash of
misunderstanding your own sloppiness has created.

--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

Carrie

2011-02-21 04:39:47 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

[delete]

Post by Sidney Lambe
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I've been told I ask questions and it's really
attacking them, but I hide it by making out it's a
question. Lots of psychic people who seem to know me and
what I'm really like and where I'm coming from. Better than
I do myself LOL

I am only referring to your habit of posting questions that
lack question marks at the end. It's confusing.

Maybe they're not questions Maybe they're not questions?
Take your pick LOL Musing... speculation

If you don't want your articles to be comprehensible, this is
your choice.

I think a lot of what I write (and ask, even indirectly) is
sort of thinking "out loud". And, no matter how clear I try to
make it, even though it might not always be clear to me, some
are going to see it, take it, make it into whatever they want.
I've had people like that on here (from ACIM and now otherwise)
I can't "make" someone else understand what I mean, and not
sure I sure try very hard to. People are gonna be people and
come to their own conclusions anyway.

If you want to be understood, then end questions with a question
mark.
If you don't care, then you get to deal with the backlash of
misunderstanding your own sloppiness has created.

You left out don't say anything to anyone about anything.
Or do what you do, put them all in killfile LOL

Sidney Lambe

2011-02-21 04:54:09 UTC

On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie <***@charter.net> wrote:

I'm through with this thread, Carrie. You are boring me.

[delete]

--
Sidney Lambe - Evergreen
Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca
usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb

Carrie

2011-02-21 13:42:38 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
I'm through with this thread, Carrie. You are boring me.
[delete]

No problem, Sid. I am grateful to you for cross posting here and opening
us up to other groups and joining with them. At least, those who are
interested in this. You also brought trc-m back to life.

nogogo

2011-02-21 04:13:22 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if
it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or
more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?
You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein.
Or checking them out on googlgroups.com.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If they
don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.
They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

So true.
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I'm all for open discussion me. (:

I don't however see any need what so ever to insult people just
because you don't happen to agree with them.

I feel a lot of posters who attack just because they disagree, are
just getting their nasty side out for a run. It's a fairly safe
outlet for aggression I guess.

Shame though. This could be such a different place with just a
little effort. Sure, write that vitriolic post. Think about it
for a while, decide that what the world really needs now is love.
Then delete it. And write another you would be proud to show
any daity of love, come the end of your life, or your next trip to
the astral.

Even if you don't believe in god or any of that smeg. Just by the
act of choosing to live your life in a good way regardless, you
have shown both to your self and others, just how damn cool you
really are! (:

Be at peace.

Carrie

2011-02-21 04:42:44 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if
it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or
more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?
You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein.
Or checking them out on googlgroups.com.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If they
don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.
They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

So true.
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

I don't however see any need what so ever to insult people just
because you don't happen to agree with them.
I feel a lot of posters who attack just because they disagree, are
just getting their nasty side out for a run. It's a fairly safe
outlet for aggression I guess.
Shame though. This could be such a different place with just a
little effort. Sure, write that vitriolic post. Think about it
for a while, decide that what the world really needs now is love.
Then delete it. And write another you would be proud to show
any daity of love, come the end of your life, or your next trip to
the astral.
Even if you don't believe in god or any of that smeg. Just by the
act of choosing to live your life in a good way regardless, you
have shown both to your self and others, just how damn cool you
Be at peace.

We always have a choice in how we see it, how we respond to it, or even IF
we do.
That's where the lessons come in. My peace (of God) doesn't depend on how
someone else responds to me on a discussion group. Though it does feel
better to get get kindness back. Even now and then I click down the posts,
and come to one like you write. And the sun comes out. (Even though it's the
middle of winter and almost midnow right now) LOL
Everyone is either giving love or looking for it. Isn't that what we've
learned? If no one was looking for love, how would we ever get a chance to
rmemeber this and practice it?

nogogo

2011-02-21 10:07:02 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if
it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or
more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?
You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein.
Or checking them out on googlgroups.com.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If they
don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.
They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

So true.
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

Adrian:/blushes. Thank you Carrie for describing my posts is such
a loving fashion. It's so sweet of you to say so darlin'.

It does feel much better. And it's a shock to get nasty posts
back. Especially as 99 times out of 100, your original post wasn't
meant to be at all confrontational.

And although I don't say so often, I greatly appreciate the
kindness and tolerance you have shown me in your posts over the years.

{{{{{{Carrie}}}}}}

Carrie

2011-02-21 13:12:50 UTC

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Sidney Lambe
On talk.religion.course-miracle, Carrie

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

What intention behind it. What was it for.

You covered that.

Post by Carrie
that started here, but I'm thinking, overall, it's really
good. Getting to know more people and learning a lot (in
various ways) I should figure out who is on what group, so if
it stops I can look t the group directly.
And, not sure everything is getting posted on all the "other"
groups (each time) which makes it either more confusing or
more interesting LOL

But, maybe not everyone is cross posting them. Then (when
they are) they would kind of pop up in a random way on the
other group.

Sure. Anyone could edit the Newsgroup header. But it isn't
likely. What would be the point?
You can find out be subscribing to all the groups therein.
Or checking them out on googlgroups.com.

In a way it's kind of interesting why so many decide to
"atack" someone on a group, because of what they write. If they
don't agree, why not just ignore it.

For the same reason your ACIM acquaintances attack me: because
they don't want anyone to hear anything but 'the party line'.
They don't want anyone examining their pet beliefs with an
open mind.

So true.
P.S. Question marks are wonderful things :-)

We always have a choice in how we see it, how we respond to it, or
even IF we do.
That's where the lessons come in. My peace (of God) doesn't depend
on how someone else responds to me on a discussion group. Though it
does feel better to get get kindness back. Even now and then I click
down the posts, and come to one like you write. And the sun comes
out. (Even though it's the middle of winter and almost midnow right
now) LOL Everyone is either giving love or looking for it. Isn't
that what we've learned? If no one was looking for love, how would
we ever get a chance to remember this and practice it?

I know what you mean, I still feel like this, too. When it gets into
name calling and being told what I "believe" (someone else's take on this)
and how and why it's wrong. And, why do they care if how I believe is (to
them) wrong?
More and more I do remember that it's what I believe, how *I* choose
to see it and respond (if at all) that is all that is real to me.
How I feel about it. I am the one who feels (good or bad- peace or
not) because of my choices.
The first lines from ACIM I ever heard, and probably could have
stopped there and remembered them and lived there, were the first ones from
lesson 351. That says "which I choose to see I will behold". It got my
attention, something I don't think I had ever thought of that way, before.
And, if we think back over the newsgroup, and even now with the cross
posters, all we (who cleaimed to believe ACIM and want "real course
discussion") had to do was just do that. Focus on what we wanted and not get
sidetracked by those who wanted something else. Everyone who gave up and got
mad and fought back (or left) created it (the ng) as what they said the
DIDN'T want; When it could have been somethning much different. And was and
is a wonderful chance to remember and live OUR beliefs. And learn from it.

Post by nogogo
And although I don't say so often, I greatly appreciate the
kindness and tolerance you have shown me in your posts over the years.
{{{{{{Carrie}}}}}}

nogogo

2011-02-21 03:46:55 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

If the groups are in the Newsgroups header and they exist, they
are receiving your posts, unless posting to them is banned by
your NSP. In that case, the post would be rejected completely
and you'd receive an error message. It wouldn't show up on
any groups.
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive
me away and drove themselves away.

silly wiccans. don't they remember their 1st. law?

everything you do comes back three times.

if you banish, you are banished.

if you bind, you are bound.

times three.

merry meet, merry part, and merry meet again!

Blessed Be!

PS. cross posting is frowned upon by polite usenetees

there is a law about that too. but I can't remember it off hand.

something like: as the number of cross posted newsgroups grows,
the irrelevance factor grows exponentially.

google it if you really want to know.

Carrie

2011-02-21 04:45:16 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

If the groups are in the Newsgroups header and they exist, they
are receiving your posts, unless posting to them is banned by
your NSP. In that case, the post would be rejected completely
and you'd receive an error message. It wouldn't show up on
any groups.
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive
me away and drove themselves away.

silly wiccans. don't they remember their 1st. law?
everything you do comes back three times.
if you banish, you are banished.
if you bind, you are bound.
times three.
merry meet, merry part, and merry meet again!
Blessed Be!
PS. cross posting is frowned upon by polite usenetees
there is a law about that too. but I can't remember it off hand.
something like: as the number of cross posted newsgroups grows,
the irrelevance factor grows exponentially.
google it if you really want to know.

That's a good point. I think Sidney has said he's not a wiccan. Though
he posts on their group and seems to make out he is.
He's not into ACIM but he posts here.
I should post on that group, too. I didn't know there was a rule
about cross-posting. As long as it's made clear (in the subject line)
rather than copy and paste. I didn't think usenet HAD rules LOL

nogogo

2011-02-21 10:18:52 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

If the groups are in the Newsgroups header and they exist, they
are receiving your posts, unless posting to them is banned by
your NSP. In that case, the post would be rejected completely
and you'd receive an error message. It wouldn't show up on
any groups.
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive
me away and drove themselves away.

silly wiccans. don't they remember their 1st. law?
everything you do comes back three times.
if you banish, you are banished.
if you bind, you are bound.
times three.
merry meet, merry part, and merry meet again!
Blessed Be!
PS. cross posting is frowned upon by polite usenetees
there is a law about that too. but I can't remember it off hand.
something like: as the number of cross posted newsgroups grows,
the irrelevance factor grows exponentially.
google it if you really want to know.

most ng's have a charter. but i was talking about laws not rules.
like moor's law and so on. People make them up and see if
they are true.

but that thing with cross cross posting is just what happens. You
may if you're really lucky to write a post that is actually
relevant to one, two, or if you've been diligent, three.

But after that your chances of being seen as just another cross
posting 'uckin', troll goes through the roof! (:

It's just netiquette.

(:

Carrie

2011-02-21 13:16:40 UTC

Post by Carrie
I don't know what was behind the cross posting

Me. I'm a who, not a what.

If the groups are in the Newsgroups header and they exist, they
are receiving your posts, unless posting to them is banned by
your NSP. In that case, the post would be rejected completely
and you'd receive an error message. It wouldn't show up on
any groups.
alt.religion.wicca is basically dead. I was attacked there
mercilessly for almost two years after I showed up.
Now I am the only one left standing. They tried to drive
me away and drove themselves away.

silly wiccans. don't they remember their 1st. law?
everything you do comes back three times.
if you banish, you are banished.
if you bind, you are bound.
times three.
merry meet, merry part, and merry meet again!
Blessed Be!
PS. cross posting is frowned upon by polite usenetees
there is a law about that too. but I can't remember it off hand.
something like: as the number of cross posted newsgroups grows,
the irrelevance factor grows exponentially.
google it if you really want to know.

That's a good point. I think Sidney has said he's not a
wiccan. Though he posts on their group and seems to make out he is.
He's not into ACIM but he posts here.
I should post on that group, too. I didn't know there was a
rule about cross-posting. As long as it's made clear (in the
subject line) rather than copy and paste. I didn't think usenet HAD
rules LOL

most ng's have a charter. but i was talking about laws not rules.
like moor's law and so on. People make them up and see if
they are true.
but that thing with cross cross posting is just what happens. You
may if you're really lucky to write a post that is actually
relevant to one, two, or if you've been diligent, three.
But after that your chances of being seen as just another cross
It's just netiquette.

But, we can't conrtol other people (well, directly LOL)
And who know who reads the posts? Someone, somwhere might read
something that means a lot to them, even changes their life for the better.
On some other newsgroup, or even one of the many versions of this (it goes
into many other readers, I can't guess how many and even into other
languages. I've come across some of it by accident in searches) It tripples
out all over the world, and maybe even the universe (illusion though it may
be)
Someone once told me about "if you have something to say there is
someone who needs to hear it. And if something you say helps one person,
changes their life for the better (even if you never know about it) then
it's all worth it." Though I don't write from this point, like trying to
help someone or maie their life better. I just write what comes to me and
send it off...

nogogo

2011-02-23 09:54:23 UTC